FireChan Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Mohammedan] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli 1797 It seems like 100% of the Senate and John Adams disagree with you. Also, you claim many of the Founders belonged to these religions, yet many expressed very strong deistic tendencies. Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Cornelius Harnett, Gouverneur Morris, Hugh Williamson, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, and Ethan Allen all showed strong deistic influence in their writing. Even George Washington avoided using the word "god" and instead used the Deist word providence. The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The Bible also tells us we have a right to slaves. It also tells us that women are inferior, and shouldn't be in a position of authority over a man. The Flying Spaghetti Monster crap is not a religion. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Do we really need LAWS to tell is it's wrong, too? What is is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 What is is ? Even a moron can figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I'll just add "history" and "religion" to the list. I see no need to go into detail. Oh please, I've learned and forgotten more history than you have ever even thought of learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Oh please, I've learned and forgotten more history than you have ever even thought of learning. Why do you think you are having these memory issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Oh please, I've learned and forgotten more history than you have ever even thought of learning. You've certainly forgotten more history than you've ever thought of learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The Flying Spaghetti Monster crap is not a religion. Try again. Lol, please explain how The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a religion. This should be good. Personally, I view your hate-filled opinion as intolerant, disrespectful and ignorant. I don't think you'd appreciate someone telling you that that Jesus Christ crap is not a religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 You've certainly forgotten more history than you've ever thought of learning. I think what he meant to say, was that he forgot to learn history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Lol, please explain how The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a religion. This should be good. Personally, I view your hate-filled opinion as intolerant, disrespectful and ignorant. I don't think you'd appreciate someone telling you that that Jesus Christ crap is not a religion. He means that, while it's a belief system, it's not a REAL religion like Scientology or Global Warming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Lol, please explain how The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a religion. This should be good. Personally, I view your hate-filled opinion as intolerant, disrespectful and ignorant. I don't think you'd appreciate someone telling you that that Jesus Christ crap is not a religion. From a legal standpoint? Sure. Though, if you had the capacity to be honest, you'd simply admit that it was nothing beyond a cynical parody, the only purpose of which is to mock people of faith in the public square, using the Constitutional protections afford to actual faiths as a bludgeon. It's an incredibly small minded and selfish thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 It's an incredibly small minded and selfish thing to do. Does everything have to be about Harry Reid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 From a legal standpoint? Sure. Though, if you had the capacity to be honest, you'd simply admit that it was nothing beyond a cynical parody, the only purpose of which is to mock people of faith in the public square, using the Constitutional protections afford to actual faiths as a bludgeon. It's an incredibly small minded and selfish thing to do. Actually, it was a cynical parody, the only purpose of which is to mock a woefully ignorant school board that tried to redefine "science" as having a foundation in the supernatural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Actually, it was a cynical parody, the only purpose of which is to mock a woefully ignorant school board that tried to redefine "science" as having a foundation in the supernatural. That was it's purpose, and at the time that purpose was noble; however that's no longer the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Lol, please explain how The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a religion. This should be good. Personally, I view your hate-filled opinion as intolerant, disrespectful and ignorant. I don't think you'd appreciate someone telling you that that Jesus Christ crap is not a religion. Can you explain the origins and history of the religion of The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster? Isn't it just a parody making fun of Creationism? If so, isn't that intolerant, disrespectful and ignorant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Do you understand what "historical" means, moron? I understand that at the beginning of the thread you referred to the big 10 as laws, and later on contradicted yourself saying no one is claiming they're laws. And so do you, hence the panicky name calling tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 From a legal standpoint? Sure. Though, if you had the capacity to be honest, you'd simply admit that it was nothing beyond a cynical parody, the only purpose of which is to mock people of faith in the public square, using the Constitutional protections afford to actual faiths as a bludgeon. It's an incredibly small minded and selfish thing to do. That was it's purpose, and at the time that purpose was noble; however that's no longer the case. Can you explain the origins and history of the religion of The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster? Isn't it just a parody making fun of Creationism? If so, isn't that intolerant, disrespectful and ignorant? Just wanted to say, yes, yes, and yes. I was going to say all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I understand that at the beginning of the thread you referred to the big 10 as laws, and later on contradicted yourself saying no one is claiming they're laws. And so do you, hence the panicky name calling tactic. They were laws; they were part of the legal code of the Jews. That's what Deuteronomy and Leviticus are: laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 From a legal standpoint? Sure. Though, if you had the capacity to be honest, you'd simply admit that it was nothing beyond a cynical parody, the only purpose of which is to mock people of faith in the public square, using the Constitutional protections afford to actual faiths as a bludgeon. It's an incredibly small minded and selfish thing to do. I'm not talking about its legality. I do, however, think it has a larger purpose than your giving it credit for. I'm not talking about either of those things. All that opinion crap aside, what characteristics do you see that make it different than any other religion? Can you explain the origins and history of the religion of The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster? Isn't it just a parody making fun of Creationism? If so, isn't that intolerant, disrespectful and ignorant? It is what it is - a belief system. Age should not be used to make one religion more valid than another. There are plenty of religions older than the ones that are popular today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) I'm not talking about its legality. I do, however, think it has a larger purpose than your giving it credit for. I'm not talking about either of those things. All that opinion crap aside, what characteristics do you see that make it different than any other religion? It is what it is - a belief system. Age should not be used to make one religion more valid than another. There are plenty of religions older than the ones that are popular today. You're wrapping yourself in the definition. I think you just want to win an argument, instead of being honest. You can "prove" it fits the definition of religion, but to pretend like it isn't a horribly unsubtle and contrived dig at other religions is asinine. You know it. It has been warped from its true purpose of keeping "intelligent design" out of schools into adolescents on the internet saying, "You believe in magic man in the sky, I believe in a Flying Spaghetti monster, I'm so clever." It may ascribe to the letter of religion but it goes against its spirit. Edited August 15, 2014 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Lol, please explain how The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a religion. This should be good. Personally, I view your hate-filled opinion as intolerant, disrespectful and ignorant. I don't think you'd appreciate someone telling you that that Jesus Christ crap is not a religion. the church of the flying spaghetti monster is as much a religion as the Darwin fish with little feet on it is an expression of faith. both are based in mockery, from what seems to me to be a condescending, and an ironically 'holier-than-thou' point of view. if someone was to truly believe in the avian pasta deity, they'd be placing exactly as much faith in something unprovable as those they mock for their belief in God. Edited August 15, 2014 by Azalin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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