Dorkington Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 If we are only keeping two RBs, and the Eagles wanted him, why wasn't he involved in the Brown trade?
The Jokeman Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Sorry, but you are wrong. If the plan was to move on they would have traded Spiller to the Eagles in the Bryce Brown trade instead of telling Philly to kick rocks. If the Browns got a 1st for Trent Richardson we should be able to muster a 1st for Spiller. Yet it probably be a late 1st and with the 49ers have some injuries in the backfield imagine they'd be a potential suitor/fit. That said I wouldn't trade Spiller but then again I think he's the best RB on the roster.
Fingon Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 If we are only keeping two RBs, and the Eagles wanted him, why wasn't he involved in the Brown trade? They want to get rid of the guy so badly they wouldn't even listen to trade offers for him.
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Spiller for Vernon Davis. I do not want them to trade Spiller, but if they did, it has to be for a player that will contribute this year. A quality TE or a Backup QB who could start if called upon would be my guess.
Buftex Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Sorry, but you are wrong. If the plan was to move on they would have traded Spiller to the Eagles in the Bryce Brown trade instead of telling Philly to kick rocks. Not necessarly. Perhaps the Bills wanted more than Bryce Brown for Spiller, and nothing else was being offered. As low an opinion as some here seem to have of Spiller, at this point in their careers, Spiller is far more valuable than Brown. I think Brown is a nice player to get, especially for very little, but lets not forget, he had a bit of a reputation as a fumbler. Which is what made him expendable to the Eagles.
K D Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Spiller is set to have a big year. It's a contract year. We need that kind of productivity to get into the playoffs. The catch 22 (or 28) is that once he has a good year, his contract demands will be outrageous and he is all but certain to leave. And on the flip side, if he has a bad year then we won't want him anyways. So my guess is he's gone either way
PO'14 Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Spiller is set to have a big year. It's a contract year. We need that kind of productivity to get into the playoffs. The catch 22 (or 28) is that once he has a good year, his contract demands will be outrageous and he is all but certain to leave. And on the flip side, if he has a bad year then we won't want him anyways. So my guess is he's gone either way WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER! Lets not pull a Byrd and get nothing in return.
Fingon Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Not necessarly. Perhaps the Bills wanted more than Bryce Brown for Spiller, and nothing else was being offered. As low an opinion as some here seem to have of Spiller, at this point in their careers, Spiller is far more valuable than Brown. I think Brown is a nice player to get, especially for very little, but lets not forget, he had a bit of a reputation as a fumbler. Which is what made him expendable to the Eagles. They would have at least listened to offers for him instead of immediately saying no, if they were truly trying to unload him.
transient Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Tank for McDavid!!! ... Sorry, wrong message board.
Max997 Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) Fred Jackson has been great and I really like him as our #2 RB. I think he is one of the best in that role, but does anyone really think that we should pin our hopes on a 33 year old starter at RB? I don't see anyone I'm excited about behind him either. I would not be surprised if this was CJ's agent's way of drumming up an offer to get CJ out of town and on a team willing to give him a long term deal now. What agents? Spiller doesn't even have an agent at the moment and hasn't for awhile now. I don't want to see Spiller traded but this would not surprise me at all as it was clear early on last season he is not the type of bsck that Marrone prefers. Edited August 8, 2014 by Max997
Dean Cain Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Well we got rid of our 2009 draft in Levitre & Byrd. Now it's time to dump a guy from 2010. Next year we'll move to 2011 and trade Dareus. The stupidity never ends.
Max997 Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) If the Browns got a 1st for Trent Richardson we should be able to muster a 1st for Spiller. Yet it probably be a late 1st and with the 49ers have some injuries in the backfield imagine they'd be a potential suitor/fit. That said I wouldn't trade Spiller but then again I think he's the best RB on the roster. Big difference between acquiring Spiller in the last year of his deal and Richardson in the second year of his. Edited August 8, 2014 by Max997
Like A Mofo Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Deny all you want: But generally where there is smoke, this is fire.
ganesh Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I'm not saying it couldn't happen, because obviously it could, but if it were going to happen why wouldn't they have one of the other guys (Dixon, Brown) practicing/playing more time with the 1's? When Lynch was going to be traded, his 1st team reps were severely cut almost like the writing was on the wall. +1. The time for the Bills to trade Spiller (If they intended) would have been on draft day, not three weeks into training camp. It will demotivate the players. We are not the Patriots that their team can overcome cutting a player like Milloy or trading their starting DE to Oakland.
Fingon Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 What agents? Spiller doesn't even have an agent at the moment and hasn't for awhile now. I don't want to see Spiller traded but this would not surprise me at all as it was clear early on last season he is not the type of bsck that Marrone prefers. Nah man. His agent is clearly a class four poltergeist and is drumming up trade interest from beyond the grave.
dubs Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I'd be ok with it. RBs are just not worth that much anymore. We have a few capable guys, so if we know we are not going to pay a RB top five money, than it makes sense to unload the one we can get the most for, Spiller. If we got a 1st (unlikely) then we essentially traded Spiller for Watkins and the difference between the location of the two first rounders. Not a bad deal, potentially. Let's say bills get a first and it ends up being pick 20. We moved up to 3 in 2014 to potentially move back to 20 in 2015. In the process we pick up a stud WR at the beginning of a rookie contract in exchange for offloading a RB at the end of a rookie contract. Sound a like a win to me.
Gabe Northern Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I'm not saying it couldn't happen, because obviously it could, but if it were going to happen why wouldn't they have one of the other guys (Dixon, Brown) practicing/playing more time with the 1's? When Lynch was going to be traded, his 1st team reps were severely cut almost like the writing was on the wall. This couldn't be MORE WRONG. In fact, the light workload of Brown makes a Spiller trade more probable. Lynch was showcased and received the most carries until he was traded. You, my friend, have chosen to make up facts, have insulted out intelligence, and lost ALL CREDIBILITY http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201009190gnb.htm'>http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201009190gnb.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201009260nwe.htm'>http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201009260nwe.htm I'm not saying it couldn't happen, because obviously it could, but if it were going to happen why wouldn't they have one of the other guys (Dixon, Brown) practicing/playing more time with the 1's? When Lynch was going to be traded, his 1st team reps were severely cut almost like the writing was on the wall. This couldn't be MORE WRONG. In fact, the light workload of Brown makes a Spiller trade more probable. Lynch was showcased and received the most carries until he was traded. You, my friend, have chosen to make up facts, have insulted our intelligence, and lost ALL CREDIBILITY http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201009190gnb.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201009260nwe.htm
Fingon Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) Deny all you want: But generally where there is smoke, this is fire. Really? The facts state otherwise, as trades are actually pretty rare in the NFL. Trade rumors are far more prevalent than actual trades. http://espn.go.com/b...des-are-so-rare Edited August 8, 2014 by Fingon
Like A Mofo Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Really? The facts state otherwise, as trades are actually pretty rare in the NFL. Trade rumors are rare more prevalent than actual trades. http://espn.go.com/b...des-are-so-rare This does make some sense. I like Spiller too. I like him a lot and own his jersey. But he is getting close to a contract...still can fetch a good return and the Bills traded for Brown and have Dixon and Fred Jackson...I can absolutely see Spiller on the move (I hope Im wrong)
Gugny Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 This couldn't be MORE WRONG. In fact, the light workload of Brown makes a Spiller trade more probable. Lynch was showcased and received the most carries until he was traded. You, my friend, have chosen to make up facts, have insulted out intelligence, and lost ALL CREDIBILITY http://www.pro-footb...01009190gnb.htm http://www.pro-footb...01009260nwe.htm This couldn't be MORE WRONG. In fact, the light workload of Brown makes a Spiller trade more probable. Lynch was showcased and received the most carries until he was traded. You, my friend, have chosen to make up facts, have insulted our intelligence, and lost ALL CREDIBILITY http://www.pro-footb...01009190gnb.htm http://www.pro-footb...01009260nwe.htm You don't need to repeat yourself in order to be arrogant. Just posting it once would have pulled it off just fine.
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