GG Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 I'm telling you guys, Gundlach is not as well known as Pegula, but we'd be very lucky to have him. Don't know about that.
zow2 Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Tim Graham is starting to separate himself in getting the lowdown on this bidding game. nice nuggets from him.
thebandit27 Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Having Gundlach in the mix is good for the process...until I hear differently all signs still point to El Pegual.
Hplarrm Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 No one has explained so far why the NFL would so blithely walk away from the 100s of millions of dollars that would not be able to follow the franchise to Toronto. This is particularly the case when the articulated strategy of the NFL is to expand the product and the NFL can have both the already captured millions from the Buffalo franchise AND the likely but as yet uncaptured $ from a Toronto franchise. Why would the NFL which clearly is motivated by getting $ walk away from the already captured 100s of millions from the Buffalo franchise?
Tyrod's Tailor Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Don't know about that. What makes you say that? He's local and has gone on record saying he wants to buy the team because he loves the Buffalo Bills. I also think he's damn good at his day job.
CodeMonkey Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 What makes you say that? He's local and has gone on record saying he wants to buy the team because he loves the Buffalo Bills. I also think he's damn good at his day job. And, if the reports are true, he has Jim Kelly as a partner.
17 Josh Allen Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 This is not good news. Why do I get the feeling We're going to end up getting screwed In the end http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/07/report-bills-have-up-to-eight-suitors/
K D Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 I guess I'm wondering why Kelly would jump in with Gundlach at this time. They must know they have no shot vs. Pegula and if everyone's intentions are to keep the team in town then why even try and bid against him? They are just going to drive the selling price up and that is money we could be putting towards a new stadium.
Big Turk Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Pegula basically talking trash towards other prospective buyers telling them there is a whole lot more where that $1.75 billion came from, that he isn't going anywhere, and to bring it. Love it.
CodeMonkey Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) I guess I'm wondering why Kelly would jump in with Gundlach at this time. They must know they have no shot vs. Pegula and if everyone's intentions are to keep the team in town then why even try and bid against him? They are just going to drive the selling price up and that is money we could be putting towards a new stadium. I disagree completely. Anyone with Kelly on the team has not only a shot, but a good shot in my opinion. Look at who the trustees are and their relationship with Kelly. As to why Kelly would, one guess is he asked Pegula and Pegula said no. Or Kelly thinks Pegula would not be a good owner for the Bills. Only guesses of course. Another wildcard is Golisano. He could hookup with them as well which would give this group more than enough bank to compete with Pegula. The permutations are endless Regardless, this group would keep the Bills in Buffalo as well so all is still well. Edited August 7, 2014 by CodeMonkey
17 Josh Allen Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 No I don't love it. We could end up with a google Billionaire bidding 3 billion and pay 600 million To Erie County to get out of the lease And are bills are gone to Los angles As someone's toy.
YoloinOhio Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Chris Trapasso @ChrisTrapasso 4m It's estimated that Jeffrey Gunlach's net worth is around $1B. Terry Pegula, $3.3B a few months ago. Also, Pegula just sold land for $1.75B
CodeMonkey Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Pegula basically talking trash towards other prospective buyers telling them there is a whole lot more where that $1.75 billion came from, that he isn't going anywhere, and to bring it. Love it. Where do you get Pegula talking trash out of that?
1B4IDie Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 That is not what the article says. There are 8 groups that signed the NDA and will receive a financial presentation FROM the Bills TO the POTENTIAL Bidder. This was talked about previously as part of the process. It doesn't mean there are 8 active bidders.
Tyrod's Tailor Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Chris Trapasso @ChrisTrapasso 4m It's estimated that Jeffrey Gunlach's net worth is around $1B. Terry Pegula, $3.3B a few months ago. Also, Pegula just sold land for $1.75B Gundlach has absolutely cleaned up this year in the markets. I think that estimate might just be a little out of date. No way he's as rich as Terry but he still might be able to put together a good bid. We'll see.
17 Josh Allen Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Yes that means they moved to round 2 The first bids mean nothing As of the last few days we had 3 groups Now we have 8 and they will now get a chance to Put in non binding bids So we now have more chances to lose are Bills
Big Turk Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Where do you get Pegula talking trash out of that? It's obviously directed towards the other prospective bidders, and he is pretty much giving them the "Not TooooDaaay!" Mutumbo finger wave
K D Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 I disagree completely. Anyone with Kelly on the team has not only a shot, but a good shot in my opinion. Look at who the trustees are and their relationship with Kelly. As to why Kelly would, one guess is he asked Pegula and Pegula said no. Or Kelly thinks Pegula would not be a good owner for the Bills. Only guesses of course. At the end of the day they can't compete with Pegula in the $ department. Are they really going to leave hundreds of millions of dollars on the table because they think Jim Kelly is a swell guy? All this is doing is driving the price up higher. It's good for the trust but in the end it is only hurting our chances of getting a new stadium
17 Josh Allen Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 This is right from the article While the existence of unnamed potential buyers will make Bills fans nervous because those buyers could be based in cities like Los Angeles, the rejection of Bon Jovi’s initial bid based in part of the lack of sufficient assurances that the team won’t move should be interpreted as very good news for folks who want the team to stay put in Buffalo. 8 groups to sit down with the Bills in round 2 to see all the Bills books. Can not be good. I rather have 3 buyers in round 2 then 8 buyers. How did this change so quickly over night
CodeMonkey Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) At the end of the day they can't compete with Pegula in the $ department. Are they really going to leave hundreds of millions of dollars on the table because they think Jim Kelly is a swell guy? All this is doing is driving the price up higher. It's good for the trust but in the end it is only hurting our chances of getting a new stadium Nothing says they are on the only 2 in the group so who can say what they can or cannot bid. I would not expect the trustees to pass up hundreds of millions of dollars. But all other things being equal, do you think they pick a team with Kelly, or without? Edited August 7, 2014 by CodeMonkey
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