bbb Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I'll go ahead and call dibs on starting the 3rd stage of sale thread. I will independently decide when the third stage has begun. Stay tuned! Excellent. I'm tuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Trump under $900 million, JBJ under $900 million...this is turning into a Pegula blowout and a disaster for Morgan Stanley's reputation if the goal was to create a bidding war (even if they wanted Pegula to win all along). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Feel free to caption Game over phone call Stayin He gives bids a bad name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 How about a car with a toaster? How about a toaster car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Dude! Google is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Trump under $900 million, JBJ under $900 million...this is turning into a Pegula blowout and a disaster for Morgan Stanley's reputation if the goal was to create a bidding war (even if they wanted Pegula to win all along). Trump's bid was $1B, no? And it depends on what they were expecting to get for the team. If Pegs pays even $1B, that's good coin. And MS was hamstrung by the the fact that Ralph didn't want the team to move and made that a condition of sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Trump's bid was $1B, no? And it depends on what they were expecting to get for the team. If Pegs pays even $1B, that's good coin. And MS was hamstrung by the the fact that Ralph didn't want the team to move and made that a condition of sale. Is that a fact? How do we know Ralph's widow didn't add that stipulation. Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Is that a fact? How do we know Ralph's widow didn't add that stipulation. Just wondering. It's not a fact, but it's been talked about by Wawrow that Ralph has had chances to move the team and didn't, and he's voted "nay" every time a team wanted to move in the past. I'm not sure why Mary Wilson would necessarily care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 @JohnKryk: My story on Toronto/#BonJovi group indeed resubmitting 1st-round bid for #Bills: http://t.co/NV3QuPhMA8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 And I just saw that a source said Trump's bid was less than $900M. Hopefully that's true and Pegs gets it for far cheaper than $1.3B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) @JohnKryk: My story on Toronto/#BonJovi group indeed resubmitting 1st-round bid for #Bills: http://t.co/NV3QuPhMA8 This time with an ironclad super-dee-duper promise of doing everything they can to keep the team in Buffalo. And I just saw that a source said Trump's bid was less than $900M. Hopefully that's true and Pegs gets it for far cheaper than $1.3B. Cheaper than 1.3 but I still think he breaks the current record sale price. Even if he doesn't have to. It's a clout kinda thing I would think. I said it when the initial bid "quotes" came out. Pegula threw his nut bag on the table and told the others "COME AT ME BRAH!!!" Edited August 6, 2014 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 It's not a fact, but it's been talked about by Wawrow that Ralph has had chances to move the team and didn't, and he's voted "nay" every time a team wanted to move in the past. I'm not sure why Mary Wilson would necessarily care. Maybe because she wants to honor his wishes? Spouses can be like that. Foremost of which, IMO, is to be remembered. Ralph was about some Ralph. Hence allowing the stadium to be in his name for all these years....like he was some long dead hero. If the team moves he is COMPLETELY forgotten in the new town. Aside from being a trivia question some day about obscure HOF'ers....he will be forgotten. Here? Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Cheaper than 1.3 but I still think he breaks the current record sale price. Even if he doesn't have to. It's a clout kinda thing I would think. I said it when the initial bid "quotes" came out. Pegula threw his nut bag on the table and told the others "COME AT ME BRAH!!!" Sure sounds like it. But I'd rather the sale price not break the record. Maybe because she wants to honor his wishes? Spouses can be like that. Foremost of which, IMO, is to be remembered. Ralph was about some Ralph. Hence allowing the stadium to be in his name for all these years....like he was some long dead hero. If the team moves he is COMPLETELY forgotten in the new town. Aside from being a trivia question some day about obscure HOF'ers....he will be forgotten. Here? Never. Yes, that's what I was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Maybe because she wants to honor his wishes? Spouses can be like that. Foremost of which, IMO, is to be remembered. Ralph was about some Ralph. Hence allowing the stadium to be in his name for all these years....like he was some long dead hero. If the team moves he is COMPLETELY forgotten in the new town. Aside from being a trivia question some day about obscure HOF'ers....he will be forgotten. Here? Never. Theres some ignorance for you. The country insisted that the Stadium bear his name. Basically as a thank you for his many charitable contributions that he gave Erie County and Buffalo over 50 years. But carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinL Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) Theres some ignorance for you. The country insisted that the Stadium bear his name. Basically as a thank you for his many charitable contributions that he gave Erie County and Buffalo over 50 years. But carry on A question out of curiosity. Did Rich Products only purchase the naming rights for so many years and at the end of the term it shifted to RWS? I guess what I am asking is did Rich not have the option to extend the naming rights? Edited August 6, 2014 by KevinL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 A question out of curiosity. Did Rich Products only purchase the naming rights for so many years and at the end of the term it shifted to RWS? It was a 25 year deal I believe. It is actually the 1st naming rights deal (at least in the major US sports). The Bills do have the option to sell naming rights as far as I know. I'm about 95% sure on that but have elected not to. The new stadium will certainly have naming rights attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Theres some ignorance for you. The country insisted that the Stadium bear his name. Basically as a thank you for his many charitable contributions that he gave Erie County and Buffalo over 50 years. But carry on That's right! And that country was the U..S..and...A....don't you forget it! ALLOWING it to be in his name is different than NAMING the stadium after himself. I apologize if you can't see the distinction, my english is limited to meaningful words and phrases. He had the rights to sell the name of the stadium. He had done so prior. I can remember being 6 years old and thinking it was Rich Stadium because the owner was rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinL Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 It was a 25 year deal I believe. It is actually the 1st naming rights deal (at least in the major US sports). The Bills do have the option to sell naming rights as far as I know. I'm about 95% sure on that but have elected not to. The new stadium will certainly have naming rights attached. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 It was a 25 year deal I believe. It is actually the 1st naming rights deal (at least in the major US sports). The Bills do have the option to sell naming rights as far as I know. I'm about 95% sure on that but have elected not to. The new stadium will certainly have naming rights attached. ...And you name "the field Ralph Wilson field" to make everyone happy. So it would be "we're at the Geicho Dome for the big game on Ralph Wilson Field..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinL Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) This kind of leads me into another topic concerning the lease. Now the buy-out clause makes sense. Assuming that the team is in fact sold to Pegs or another purchaser intent on keeping the team in Buffalo, the clause is there so that someone could move the team across town, not necessarily out of town. Edited August 6, 2014 by KevinL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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