Hplarrm Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 The reason why everyone has to keep saying that is because of poor planning when there are better QBs available. For example, most recently, instead of just doing something else with our draft last season, we have to reach and force a QB out of the draft instead of taking another player and either trying to get Manuel in round 2 and allowing us to take a QB in round 1 this season. Just one example. GMs get paid to have a vision and a plan for rebuilding, but ours never do. On the contrary, even an outside observer like me can see the a plan that the Bills are trying to execute. 1. They can see what we can that EJ is not ready this year to carry this team to the playoffs. However, they also can see that there is no QB talent which is reasonably accessible to replace EJ who can carry this team in a Jim Kelly like way. Therefor this team has tried to generate O productivity sufficient to allow this ream to compete for the playoffs by putting substantial resources into improving all other facets of the O so that they can get Ws with EJ simply having to be adequate rather than great. Specifically, these acquisitions are: A. The RBs (Jax and Spiller are a clearly productive strength when healthy and even pretty good when one is badly nicked. Given Jax's age and Spiller's inconsistent dynamism, the Bills braintrust have nicely augmented this talent with getting Bryce Brown who has shown indications that he can be the real deal as part of running attack if either Jax or Spiller goes down. Another nice piece of strategic implementation with the run game is that it even appears our #4 can step up to be a #3 if needed. B. Both Jax and Spiller have nice chops as receivers as well, but the braintrust clearly has shown they have and have succeeded in implementing a strategy to improve the passing game. It appears clear to me why they made the gutsy step of trading significant future resources for Watkins. Watkins is pretty clearly a gamebreaker talent with good YAC ability and great hands and jumpball ability. Even better Watkins comments since draft indicates he has ability and is focusing his work on getting immediate separation from coverage. If successful at this, it should make the job asked of EJ much easier. The #2 WR is Woods and he has both shown talent and also that he and EJ have developed good chemistry. Where your vision question comes in is that the braintrust did not stop at simply getting Watkins, but also plucked up two-time character issue loser but former #1 physical talent Williams as our #3WR. One clearly should not bet on Williams to be your #1, its a not unreasonable effort to lower pressure on him by simply demanding #3 performance and spot production from him. even better, William's past problems clearly show a lack of maturity and bringing him to his hometown where we hope his Mom will reign this child/man is not an impossible thought. On OL there is clearly a plan to try to find 5 starting talents and 1 or 2 swing guys. I like the talent being assembled on the OL: Wood and Glenn- solid starter talent: Cujo (1st round talent injury fear dropped to 2) Williams (former 1st rd pick by Chicago who failed, but seems to have stopped falling as Ram starter who we got as FA), Henderson (1st round physical talent with 8th round brain). doubt we get 3hitsd here but at least 1 and maybe two. Add to that we are looking to upgrade current roster but those players Pears, Urbik, Hairston will be given a chance to compete and improve their play (unlikely) or learn new positions and be not unreasonable plan B swing guys (I think doable in Hairston's case. Ai any rate I think they can find the needed 6 or 7 guys from this crew. The D they are counting on to do well even w/o Alonso (quite possible though tough. The big assumption in mind is that the braintrust has acquired better ST talent but Crossman has show no talent for ST coaching yet. I feel pretty good about the O even though I am pretty sure EJ is not the player (yet?) one should expect to carry the team. Will this strategy work. No guarantee yes, but I like the run they are taking at.
reddogblitz Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) Who are you calling we, Kimosabe? I was thinking maybe he had a mouse in his pocket because I have no idea how this is going to turn out. Someone else asked if anyone had seen anything to make them think EJ can carry us deep in the playoffs. I won't go that far, but I have seen a heckuva lot more than the Carolina drive. I was at 2 games last year that he played well in and we won. Namely, Baltimore and the Jets at the Ralph. He also played well against Atlanta and Jacksonville and Cleveland before he got injured. I've seen enough to make me think he can be good. Unlike many on here, I think the season doesn't necessarily hinge on EJ. I put the hinges on the defense. Edited August 7, 2014 by reddogblitz
YoloinOhio Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 I was thinking maybe he had a mouse in his pocket because I have no idea how this is going to turn out. Someone else asked if anyone had seen anything to make them think EJ can carry us deep in the playoffs. I won't go that far, but I have seen a heckuva lot more than the Carolina drive. I was at 2 games last year that he played well in and we won. Namely, Baltimore and the Jets at the Ralph. He also played well against Atlanta and Jacksonville and Cleveland before he got injured. I've seen enough to make me think he can be good. Unlike many on here, I think the season doesn't necessarily hinge on EJ. I put the hinges on the defense. you can't use actual games with game plans and consequences to evaluate, reddog. You need to use practices and preseason. Didn't you get the memo...I think it is now in the TOS.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 I see E.J. playing to Snoop dogs Laid Back tune. E.J. is too LAID BACK.
Kemp Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 The fact that EJ stunk against NY along with reading every single day that he stunk in practice, has me wondering why the Bills didn't draft a qb or bring another in. We still read every day that he can't go through progressions and he is inaccurate. The personnel, other than him, is playoff-caliber. If he doesn't figure it out this year, he is toast, as is Whaley and Marrone. I think they are all toast. And us fans are doomed to watching losses for at least this season.
Wayne Cubed Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 The fact that EJ stunk against NY along with reading every single day that he stunk in practice, has me wondering why the Bills didn't draft a qb or bring another in. We still read every day that he can't go through progressions and he is inaccurate. The personnel, other than him, is playoff-caliber. If he doesn't figure it out this year, he is toast, as is Whaley and Marrone. I think they are all toast. And us fans are doomed to watching losses for at least this season. Enjoy the season.
Cleveland Rocks? Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 I see E.J. playing to Snoop dogs Laid Back tune. E.J. is too LAID BACK. So are Joe Flacco, Russell Wilson and Eli Manning. Everyone has a different personality.
zow2 Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 The fact that EJ stunk against NY along with reading every single day that he stunk in practice, has me wondering why the Bills didn't draft a qb or bring another in. We still read every day that he can't go through progressions and he is inaccurate. The personnel, other than him, is playoff-caliber. If he doesn't figure it out this year, he is toast, as is Whaley and Marrone. I think they are all toast. And us fans are doomed to watching losses for at least this season. I'm wondering how I'd feel if we had Manziel right now- as a rookie- instead of a 2nd year EJ. Would anyone feel better about that?
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 I'm wondering how I'd feel if we had Manziel right now- as a rookie- instead of a 2nd year EJ. Would anyone feel better about that? Stop staring at me, swan.
PolishDave Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 My main beef with EJ is that he started last year and is starting again this year by the looks of it. I think the Bills were very smart for drafting him if they honestly thought he was the future franchise QB here (which they obviously did think and still do apparently). And I am okay with where they drafted him. My beef is that they KNEW he was and is a project, yet he is starting at QB. He should be on the sideline in a backup role learning from a proven veteran and getting his mechanics straightened out. Kolb was never a proven QB. The dude was possibly the worst QB out there. Anyone who followed Arizona knows this without a doubt. He sucked beyond words there. Yes that bad. You had to watch him play. (Injury prone under-performing whiner lacking leadership skills) There were better QB’s backing other teams up including some 3rd string QB’s like the Redskins had for example. I think people are smoking crack if they think there wasn’t an Alex Van Pelt available if the Bills really wanted one. And I think an Alex Van Pelt kind of QB (like Fitz was) just might have taken this team to the playoffs last year and again this year. Instead I feel like “if EJ doesn’t work out this year” then the whole thing is going to get blown up again which I don’t want to see happen. I want a new starting QB, a new Offensive Coordinator and a new special teams coach pronto. I want to keep EJ until the coaches truly decide if he has it or not based on his ability to outplay a proven veteran QB in practice. I just don’t want to see him starting regular season games while they do that evaluation. I think it is a waste of an otherwise damn good football team.
Best Player Available Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 My main beef with EJ is that he started last year and is starting again this year by the looks of it My beef is that they KNEW he was and is a project, I want a new starting QB, a new Offensive Coordinator and a new special teams coach pronto. I want to keep EJ until the coaches truly decide if he has it or not based on his ability to outplay a proven veteran QB in practice. In 2015 the team may get all three candidates/player you ask for. Possibly more, just no feeling of a playoff caliber QB or OC on the roster today. The special teams coach might be in the NFL if not for Marrone and the cronyism. One month to go before bullets fly. But, the other skill positions look ready to go though.
eball Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Instead I feel like “if EJ doesn’t work out this year” then the whole thing is going to get blown up again which I don’t want to see happen. I want a new starting QB, a new Offensive Coordinator and a new special teams coach pronto. Yeah...good luck with that. You'll get none of the three and like it.
Kemp Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Enjoy the season. I will, until we reach somewhere around Game 8 when every game becomes our last chance to stay alive.
CountDorkula Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 I will, until we reach somewhere around Game 8 when every game becomes our last chance to stay alive. Why bother watching at all then if you know the outcome. Can you alos by chance give me tomorrows mega millions numbers, and tell me which new start up company i should invest my stock into. That would be great.
John from Riverside Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 I will, until we reach somewhere around Game 8 when every game becomes our last chance to stay alive. Why bother watching at all?
Kemp Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Why bother watching at all then if you know the outcome. Can you alos by chance give me tomorrows mega millions numbers, and tell me which new start up company i should invest my stock into. That would be great. Pity that you can't tell the difference between evaluating football personnel and predicting lottery results. Analogies is not your strength.
You herd it hear last Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Pity that you can't tell the difference between evaluating football personnel and predicting lottery results. Analogies is not your strength. Grammar are not you'res neither.
Kemp Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Why bother watching at all? Because it is fun to watch until it falls apart. Why do you watch at all? How many times in the last 14 years did you think they would be a Super Bowl contender? But you watched. Why are you wasting your time? Or did you believe Edwards, Fitz and Johnson were the answer. Before each season there is some hope, but EJ has looked horrible so far. He might turn it around, but today it seems unlikely. If you feel otherwise I assume you bet over in Vegas. Grammar are not you'res neither. You'res don't say. If any of you would like to make a wager, I would be happy to bet they won't make the playoffs.
You herd it hear last Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 If any of you would like to make a wager, I would be happy to bet they won't make the playoffs. I make it a point not to bet with NYJ fans
Heitz Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 The fact that EJ stunk against NY along with reading every single day that he stunk in practice, has me wondering why the Bills didn't draft a qb or bring another in. Selective reading. He hasn't "stunk everyday in practice", by all accounts he's had some ups and downs. Read the Buffalo medias twitter and you'll think he only misses guys and throws pics, listen to John Murphy call practice live and it's a whole different ballgame. But if you're going to give up on the season already, can you also give up on TBD?
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