Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 http://www.bendomenech.com/blog/archives/001444.html March 22, 2004 Wonderlic Welcome to Proctorville Iowa Home of the National Testing Center Controlling Your Destiny Since 1925 With the NFL Draft coming up ("no hon, there is no offseason"), it's time to take your Wonderlics again. It's just a fancy name for a fairly standard IQ test - the catch being that it's only 50 questions, but you have to complete it in 12 minutes. And the dumb jock stereotype doesn't fit here, either: the average NFL score is higher than the national average, according to Wonderlic, Inc. For the addicts, I've attached the scores below. WRs Larry Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh - 18 Roy Williams, Texas - 17 Rashaun Woods, Oklahoma State - 21 Reggie Williams, Washington - 17 Lee Evans, Wisconsin - 27 Michael Clayton, LSU - 19 Michael Jenkins, Ohio State - 20 Devery Henderson, LSU - 17 Keary Colbert, Southern Cal - 21 Ernest Wilford, Virginia Tech - 19 Bernard Berrian, Fresno State - 20 QBs Eli Manning, Mississippi - 39 Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (OH) - 25 Philip Rivers, North Carolina State - 30 J.P. Losman, Tulane - 31 Cody Pickett, Washington - 19 Matt Schaub, Virginia - 30 John Navarre, Michigan - 24 Josh Harris, Bowling Green - 25 Casey Clausen, Tennessee - 20 Jeff Smoker, Michigan State - 23 Jason Fife, Oregon - 26 Matt Mauck, LSU - 30 Eli Roberson, Kansas State - 11 B.J. Symons, Texas Tech - 22 Jared Lorenzen, Kentucky - 28 Bradlee Van Pelt, Colorado State - 25 Rod Rutherford, Pittsburgh - 17 TEs Ben Watson, Georgia - 41 Kellen Winslow, Miami - 12 Ben Troupe, Florida - not listed Ben Utecht, Minnesota - 22 Ben Hartsock, Ohio State - 32 Jason Peters, Arkansas - 9 Jeff Dugan, Maryland - 24 Sean Ryan, Boston College - 35 Chris Cooley, Utah State - 32 Tim Euhus, Oregon State - 34 RBs Steven Jackson, Oregon State - 28 Kevin Jones, Virginia Tech - 15 Chris Perry, Michigan - 20 Greg Jones, Florida State - 25 Tatum Bell, Oklahoma State - 18 Julius Jones, Notre Dame - 16 Michael Turner, Northern Illinois - 35 Maurice Clarett, Ohio State - 20 Fred Russell, Iowa - 9 Mewelde Moore, Tulane - 19 Cedric Cobbs, Arkansas - 14 Jarrett Payton, Miami (FL) - 12 Guards Vernon Carey, Miami (FL) - 18 Chris Snee, Boston College - 19 Steve Peterman, LSU - 20 Justin Smiley, Alabama - 21 Sean Locklear, North Carolina State - 19 Adrien Clarke, Ohio State - 24 Shannon Snell, Florida - 28 Alan Reuber, Texas AM (T) - 24 Jacob Bell, Miami (OH) - 22 Anthonly Herrera, Tennessee - 23 Antonio Hall, Kentucky - 20 Tackles Robert Gallery, Iowa - 23 Shawns Andrews, Arkansas - 20 Kelly Butler, Purdue - 29 Nat Dorsey, Georgia Tech - 35 Jacob Rogers, Southern Cal - 29 Carlos Joseph, Miami (FL) - 7 Tony Pape, Michigan - 23 Mark Wilson, California - 30 Kirk Chambers, Stanford - 29 Max Starks, Florida (OG) - 35 Travelle Wharton, South Carolina - 12 Sean Bubin, Illinois - 24 Shane Olivea, Ohio State - 18 Brian Rimpf, East Carolina - 35 Adrian Jones, Kansas - 17 Stacey Andrews, Mississippi - 15 LBs D.J. Williams Miami (FL) - 21 Karlso Dansby, Auburn - 15 Daryl Smith, Georgia Tech - 13 Teddy Lehman, Oklahoma - 39 Dontarrious Thomas, Auburn - 24 Michael Boulware, Florida State - 24 Kendyll Pope, Florida State - 18 Keyaron Fox, Georgia Tech - 16 Demorrio Williams, Nebraska - 12 Courtney Watson, Notre Dame - 24 Bryan Hickman, Kansas State - 16 Jonathan Vilma, Miami (FL) - 23 Niko Koutouvides, Purdue - 28 Rod Davis, Southern Miss - 18 CBs DeAngelo Hall, Virginia Tech - 23 Chris Gamble, Ohio State - 9 Dunta Robinson, South Carolina - 13 Will Poole, Southern Cal - 14 Ahmad Carroll, Arkansas - 17 Derrick Strait, Oklahoma - 15 Ricardo Colclough, Tusculum - 11 Joey Thomas, Montana State - 19 Nathan Vasher, Texas - 13 Keiwan Ratliff, Florida - 18 Jeremy LeSueur, Michigan - 16 Keith Smith, McNeese State - 17 Vontez Duff, Notre Dame - 16 FS Sean Taylor, Miami (FL) - 10 Matt Ware, UCLA - 22 Stuart Schweigert, Purdue - 28 Jason Shivers, Arizona State - 14 Sean Jones, Georgia - 18 Brandon Everage, Oklahoma - 15 Will Allen, Ohio State - 13 DEs Will Smith, Ohio State - 23 Kenechi Udeze, Southern Cal - 18 Marquise Hill, LSU - 13 Antwan Odom, Alabama - 10 Darrion Scott, Ohio State - 12 Jason Babin, Western Michigan - 22 Isaac Hilton, Hampton - 23 Uyi Osunde, Connecticut - 21 Travis Laboy, Hawaii - 29 Shaun Phillips, Purdue - 17 Bo Schobel, TCU - 27 Andrew Shull, Kansas State - 21 Dave Ball, UCLA - 25 Bobby McCray, Florida - 14 Gabe Nyenhuis, Colorado - 7 DTs Tommie Harris, Oklahoma - 11 Vince Wilfork, Miami (FL) - 10 Marcus Tubbs, Texas - 21 Randy Starks, Maryland - 20 Darnell Dockett, Florida State - 17 Donnell Washington, Clemson - 8 Dwan Edwards, Oregon State - 29 Chad Lavalais, LSU - 10 Igor Olshansky, Oregon - 29 Isaac Sopoaga, Hawaii - 8 Matthias Askew, Michigan State - 10 Tank Johnson, Washington - 16 Darrell Campbell, Notre Dame - 21 Junior Siavii, Oregon - 15 Tim Anderson, Ohio State - 25 [Note that once again, it's the O-Linemen who are consistently the best - Why? Because they're also the most likely to have stayed in school for all four years.] Posted by Ben at March 22, 2004 08:09 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Gabe Nyenhuis, Colorado - 7 Maybe he doesn't know how to spell his name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Our draftees were a very smart class. All of them. Peters was a FA. Anyone in single digits is dumb as a bag of bricks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Wasn't JP's a little low b/c he really had to pee? I thought I read some amusing article about this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Wasn't JP's a little low b/c he really had to pee? I thought I read some amusing article about this.... 218868[/snapback] 31 is rock solid. Very intelligent. I would love to see Drew's wonderlic I would bet money JP doubled it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac17 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 sort of funny that the word wonderlic was misspelled on the title of the post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Wasn't JP's a little low b/c he really had to pee? I thought I read some amusing article about this.... 218868[/snapback] I think the 1st time he took it he had to pee and he scored somewhere in the teens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted January 26, 2005 Author Share Posted January 26, 2005 31 is rock solid. Very intelligent. I would love to see Drew's wonderlic I would bet money JP doubled it 218872[/snapback] Bledsoe scored a 37 Marino scored a 16 S Young a 33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 No, really. J.P. had to pee during it. (sift through the Bills-bashing). It's a fuggin' standardized test. Has as much bearing as SAT on how you're going to do in college. Read: not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 31 is rock solid. Very intelligent. I would love to see Drew's wonderlic I would bet money JP doubled it 218872[/snapback] You might want to reconsider that bet. Bledsoe scored a 37. A high wonderlic score is just like any other test score. It doesn't necessarily guarantee success on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 You might want to reconsider that bet. Bledsoe scored a 37. A high wonderlic score is just like any other test score. It doesn't necessarily guarantee success on the field. 218880[/snapback] wow! 37 is off the charts! Ben Watson had a 41 and highscore this year. You are right- it doesnt translate on the field. Bledsoe is a football retard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-biscut Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Drews was 37 without having to pee the first time. When I didn't want to take a test in school, I'd fake sick. I should have gone with the I gutta pee thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-biscut Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 wow! 37 is off the charts! Ben Watson had a 41 and highscore this year. You are right- it doesnt translate on the field. Bledsoe is a football retard 218881[/snapback] At 32 years old drew bledsoe is 198 yards shy of hitting 40,000 yards. 7th in all time passing yards. He's been to a SuperBowl, he's 3-4 in play offs games, he revitalized two NFL Franchises and has been to 4 Pro Bowls. He might not be the Bills QB of the future, but I'd hardly call him a bust or a football retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 At 32 years old drew bledsoe is 198 yards shy of hitting 40,000 yards. 7th in all time passing yards. He's been to a SuperBowl, he's 3-4 in play offs games, he revitalized two NFL Franchises and has been to 4 Pro Bowls.He might not be the Bills QB of the future, but I'd hardly call him a bust or a football retard. 218885[/snapback] What was Vinnie Testaverdes wonderlic? I would say not too high. I have met Vinnie. Very nice guy but not the sharpest tool in the shed. Anyways Vinnies numbers are higher then Drews. As far as being a football retard- I see it with my own eyes. How many times a game do I scream "what the fug are you doing Drew?". Definately makes lots of poor decisions. After 12 years in the league he makes an awful lot of rookie mistakes. He has zero football instincts. How about when Mo Lewis almost killed Drew? What the fug was Drew thinking on that play? It looked like he was dreaming in lala land on a casual stroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mile High Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 At 32 years old drew bledsoe is 198 yards shy of hitting 40,000 yards. 7th in all time passing yards. He's been to a SuperBowl, he's 3-4 in play offs games, he revitalized two NFL Franchises and has been to 4 Pro Bowls.He might not be the Bills QB of the future, but I'd hardly call him a bust or a football retard. 218885[/snapback] He's been to two superbowls and yes I would call... Ah nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted January 26, 2005 Author Share Posted January 26, 2005 http://www.unc.edu/~mirabile/Wonderlic.htm This site is moving to: http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic/Wonderlic.htm (will automatically redirect in 3 seconds) please note these results represent research and generally come from reliable sources, i.e., Notes from NFL scouts. It is important to understand that scores cannot be "verified" since they are not released by the NFL, but rather leaked by teams or scouts. As such, the accuracy of all the scores could be considered questionable. averaged scores were changed to actual scores so everyone can see all scores. Scores are not listed chronologically. last updated Dec 13, 2004 data compiled by Mac Mirabile, UNC link to paper about a quarterback's transition from college to the NFL link to Mac's NCAA College football Rankings and Predictions for 2004 link to a paper about peer effects on quarterback's salary upcoming paper on the relationship between Wonderlic score and passing performance in college and the NFL Name Year College Wonderlic Actual Draft Order Manning, Eli 2004 Mississippi 39 1 (1st overall) Krenzel, Craig 2004 Ohio State 38 7 (148th overall) Losman, J.P. 2004 Tulane 31, 14 4 (22nd overall) Rivers, Philip 2004 NC State 30 2 (4th overall) Schaub, Matt 2004 Virginia 30 5 (90th overall) Mauck, Matt 2004 LSU 30 15 (225th overall) Lorenzen, Jared 2004 Kentucky 26 (free agent) Fife, Jason 2004 Oregon 26 (free agent) Roethlisberger, Ben 2004 Miami-OH 25 3 (11th overall) Harris, Josh 2004 Bowling Green 25 9 (187th overall) Van Pelt, Bradlee 2004 Colorado State 25 17 (250th overall) Navarre, John 2004 Michigan 24 12 (202nd overall) McCown, Luke 2004 La Tech 24, 20 6 (106th overall) Smoker, Jeff 2004 Michigan State 23 11 (201st overall) Symons, BJ 2004 Texas Tech 22 16 (248th overall) Hall, Andrew 2004 Delaware 20 8 (185th overall) Clausen, Casey 2004 Tennessee 20 (free agent) Pickett, Cody 2004 Washington 19 13 (217th overall) Rutherford, Rod 2004 Pittsburgh 17 (free agent) Sorgi, Jim 2004 Wisconsin 14 10 (193rd overall) Roberson, Ell 2004 Kansas State 11 (free agent) Henson, Drew 2003 Michigan 42 Adamson, Rob 2003 Mount Union 45, 32 Paus, Cory 2003 UCLA 30, 37 Cobb, Daniel 2003 Auburn 33 Ragone, Dave 2003 Louisville 31 Kingsbury, Kliff 2003 Texas Tech 31 Romo, Tony 2003 Eastern Illinois 30 Wood, Juston 2003 Portland State 32, 28 Farmer, Kirk 2003 Missouri 27, 32 Grossman, Rex 2003 Florida 29 Bollinger, Brooks 2003 Wisconsin 28 Boller, Kyle 2003 California 27 St. Pierre, Brian 2003 Boston College 27 Gesser, Jason 2003 Wash. State 27 Palmer , Carson 2003 USC 26 Leftwich, Byron 2003 Marshall 25 Dorsey, Ken 2003 Miami 25 Blankenship, Josh 2003 Eastern Wash. 24 Bryant, D. 2003 Duke 23 Thomas, Jason 2003 UNLV 19, 26 Simms, Chris 2003 Texas 22 Banks, Brad 2003 Iowa 13 Wallace, Seneca 2003 Iowa State 12 O'Sullivan, J.T. 2002 Calif.-Davis 35 Pate, Wes 2002 Stephen Austin 35 Kustok, Zak 2002 Northwestern 35 Harrington, Joey 2002 Oregon 32 Ramsey, Patrick 2002 Tulane 32 Kittner, Kurt 2002 Illinois 31 Nall, Craig 2002 Northwestern St. 31 McCown, Josh 2002 Sam Houston 30 Kennedy, Darnell 2002 Alabama State 30 Burford, Seth 2002 Cal Poly 28 Godsey, George 2002 Georgia Tech 28 Doman, Brandon 2002 BYU 27 Smith, Aaron 2002 Wagner 27 Smith, Jonathan 2002 Oregon State 27 Appelwhite, Major 2002 Texas 26 Fasani, Randy 2002 Stanford 25 Neill, David 2002 Nevada 25 Hill, Shaun 2002 Maryland 25 Carr, David 2002 Fresno State 24 Mitchell, Scott 2002 West. Wash. 24 Crouch, Eric * 2002 Nebraska 24 Zolman, Greg 2002 Vanderbilt 23 Curry, Ronald * 2002 North Carolina 22 Welsh, John 2002 Idaho 20 Davey, Rohan 2002 LSU 17 Randle El, Antwaan * 2002 Indiana 17 Dantzler, Woodrow * 2002 Clemson 17 Garrard, David 2002 East Carolina 14 Madkin, Wayne 2002 Miss. State 14 Rosenfels, Sage 2001 Iowa State 32 Palmer, Jesse 2001 Florida 32 Coleman, Justin 2001 Neb.-Kearney 31 Carter, Quincy 2001 Georgia 30 Heupel, Josh 2001 Oklahoma 30 Weinke, Chris 2001 Florida State 29 Griggs, Shane 2001 Idaho State 29 Brees, Drew 2001 Purdue 28 McMahon, Mike 2001 Rutgers 27 Booty, Josh 2001 LSU 27 Rivers, David 2001 West. Carolina 27 McKinley, Jason 2001 Houston 25 Tuiasosopo, Marques 2001 Washington 24 Hasselbeck, Tim 2001 Boston College 23 Hendricks, Bart 2001 Boise State 22 Leard, Ben 2001 Auburn 22 Vick, Michael 2001 Virginia Tech 20 Smith, Dylen 2001 Kansas 20 Beasley, Jonathan 2001 Kansas State 20 Casey, Rashard 2001 Penn State 20 Feeley, A.J. 2001 Oregon 19 Lemon, Cleo 2001 Ark. State 18 Kenner, Deontey 2001 Cincinnati 16 Jenkins, Oretege 2001 Arizona 14 Miller, Romaro 2001 Mississippi 11 Husak, Todd 2000 Stanford 39 Brady, Tom 2000 Michigan 33 Pennington, Chad 2000 Marshall 25 Redman, Chris 2000 Louisville 16 Martin, Tee 2000 Tennessee 11 Bulger, Marc 2000 West Virginia 29 Bulger's score has been verified by Howard Balzer, editor of USA Sports Weekly Maas, Jason 1999 Oregon 43 Daft, Kevin 1999 Calif.-Davis 32 McNown, Cade 1999 UCLA 28 Smith, Akili 1999 Oregon 37, 15 Many suspect Smith of cheating because he showed such improvement. King, Shaun 1999 Tulane 25 Huard, Brock 1999 Washington 25 Germaine, Joe 1999 Ohio State 25 Couch, Tim 1999 Kentucky 22 Culpepper, Daunte 1999 Central Fla. 18, 21, 15 Culpepper, who was administered the test three times, had a high of 21 and a low of 15. Because of his academic struggles even to gain admittance to a four-year institution, some teams think the 15 is more realistic. Brooks, Aaron 1999 Virginia 17 McNabb, Donovan 1999 Syracuse 16, 12 Bishop, Michael 1999 Kansas State 10 Griese, Brian 1998 Michigan 39 Hasselbeck, Matt 1998 Boston College 29 Banks, Tony 1996 Michigan State 26 Wachholtz, Kyle 1996 USC 12 Collins, Kerry 1995 Penn State 30 McNair, Steve 1995 Alcorn State 15 Stewart, Kordell 1995 Colorado 12 Dilfer, Trent 1994 Fresno State 22 Shuler, Heath 1994 Tennessee 16 Bledsoe, Drew 1993 Wash. State 37 Brunell, Mark 1993 Washington 22 Grbac, Elvis 1993 Michigan 16 Blake, Jeff 1992 East Carolina 17 Favre, Brett 1991 Southern Miss. 22 O'Donnell, Neil 1990 Maryland 13 George, Jeff 1990 Illinois 10 Aikman, Troy 1989 UCLA 29 Tolliver, Billy Joe 1989 Texas Tech 24 Testaverde, Vinny 1987 Miami 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Actually you can take a Wonderlic online - that would be an interesting event at TSW... Nice find with the Marino score bwt (16). My dad always said that Marino was a good right arm away from flipping pizzas at the Pittsburgh airport... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Actually you can take a Wonderlic online - that would be an interesting event at TSW... Nice find with the Marino score bwt (16). My dad always said that Marino was a good right arm away from flipping pizzas at the Pittsburgh airport... 218897[/snapback] I knew someone that went to Pitt back then and he said Dan was a big coke dealer. Take that for what its worth but I have heard that elsewhere too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-biscut Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 What was Vinnie Testaverdes wonderlic? I would say not too high. I have met Vinnie. Very nice guy but not the sharpest tool in the shed. Anyways Vinnies numbers are higher then Drews. As far as being a football retard- I see it with my own eyes. How many times a game do I scream "what the fug are you doing Drew?". Definately makes lots of poor decisions. After 12 years in the league he makes an awful lot of rookie mistakes. He has zero football instincts. How about when Mo Lewis almost killed Drew? What the fug was Drew thinking on that play? It looked like he was dreaming in lala land on a casual stroll. 218889[/snapback] He was trying to make a first down when his protection broke down. Doubt he was looking like he was in Lala lind becasue Shawn Ellis had him wrapped up from behind and wasn't able to protect himself or get out of bounds. Much of Drews prolems stem from taking risks rather than playing it safe. true he makes some mistakes but he' also made some remarkable plays by standing in there a few seconds longer and taking the hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Actually you can take a Wonderlic online - that would be an interesting event at TSW... Nice find with the Marino score bwt (16). My dad always said that Marino was a good right arm away from flipping pizzas at the Pittsburgh airport... 218897[/snapback] I say we set up that event. That would be GREAT fodder for the board during the off season. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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