/dev/null Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Even if that occurred, I think they still take Clemson over osu. agreed Alabama and Clemson are locks regardless what happens today Notre Dame is in too Today is about that final piece of the puzzle Georgia's fate is in their own hands. Win and they're in. If Georgia loses, Ohio State needs to absolutely humiliate Northwestern in Prime Time to jump Oklahoma Quote
YoloinOhio Posted December 1, 2018 Author Posted December 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, /dev/null said: agreed Alabama and Clemson are locks regardless what happens today Notre Dame is in too Today is about that final piece of the puzzle Georgia's fate is in their own hands. Win and they're in. If Georgia loses, Ohio State needs to absolutely humiliate Northwestern in Prime Time to jump Oklahoma Even then (though I do not expect it to be a blowout) if that happens... would it be enough? Committee dropped northwestern two spots after a win last week. They don’t think much of them. Yet Texas stayed at 9. Quote
/dev/null Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Even then (though I do not expect it to be a blowout) if that happens... would it be enough? Committee dropped northwestern two spots after a win last week. They don’t think much of them. Yet Texas stayed at 9. A blowout still won't be enough. Ohio St would have to totally dominate Northwestern the way Alabama handled their early season cupcakes Quote
Doc Brown Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, /dev/null said: agreed Alabama and Clemson are locks regardless what happens today Notre Dame is in too Today is about that final piece of the puzzle Georgia's fate is in their own hands. Win and they're in. If Georgia loses, Ohio State needs to absolutely humiliate Northwestern in Prime Time to jump Oklahoma Here's 538's take if Clemson loses and Alabama, OSU, and Oklahoma wins. Alabama, Ohio State and Oklahoma win; Clemson loses. Chances of happening: 2 percentLikely playoff field: Alabama (>99 percent), Ohio State (94), Notre Dame (93), Oklahoma (92)Others: Clemson (11 percent) According to our model, this result would also benefit the selection committee. If Clemson were to lose the ACC title game to Pitt when favored by more than three touchdowns, the Tigers would suddenly be a Tier 2 team battling with a couple of fellow candidates (the Buckeyes and Sooners) who would each boast conference championships in this scenario. Quote
/dev/null Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Here's 538's take if Clemson loses and Alabama, OSU, and Oklahoma wins. Alabama, Ohio State and Oklahoma win; Clemson loses. Chances of happening: 2 percentLikely playoff field: Alabama (>99 percent), Ohio State (94), Notre Dame (93), Oklahoma (92)Others: Clemson (11 percent) According to our model, this result would also benefit the selection committee. If Clemson were to lose the ACC title game to Pitt when favored by more than three touchdowns, the Tigers would suddenly be a Tier 2 team battling with a couple of fellow candidates (the Buckeyes and Sooners) who would each boast conference championships in this scenario. 538, you mean the same people who said there was a 70% chance of Hiliary Clinton being elected President? PPP rant aside, their justification for Clemson being dropped is that Oklahoma and Ohio St would boast better resumes as Conference champs. The selection committee has already established the precedent that Conference Championships are not a requirement in 2016 by selecting Ohio St over Penn St and in 2017 by selecting Alabama over Ohio St *addendum, just as soon as I hit OK on the last post, Georgia just went up 21-7. If this continues, Georgia will make this argument irrelevant Quote
Doc Brown Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, /dev/null said: 538, you mean the same people who said there was a 70% chance of Hiliary Clinton being elected President? PPP rant aside, their justification for Clemson being dropped is that Oklahoma and Ohio St would boast better resumes as Conference champs. The selection committee has already established the precedent that Conference Championships are not a requirement in 2016 by selecting Ohio St over Penn St and in 2017 by selecting Alabama over Ohio St Meaning there was a 30% chance of Trump winning. I think the committee is hoping Alabama and Pittsburgh wins because it makes their job easy as the playoff would be: 1.) Alabama 2.) Notre Dame 3.) Oklahoma 4.) Ohio State Here's what ESPN and Sporting News says - 4. What happens if Clemson loses? It could open the door for both the Big 12 and Big Ten champions, and Clemson's strength of schedule would come under the microscope. Clemson would still have two wins over ranked opponents -- No. 19 Texas A&M and No. 20 Syracuse -- but it would have lost to an unranked, five-loss Pitt team. That's comparable to Ohio State's loss to Purdue (6-6), the difference being that the Buckeyes would have a better win (against Michigan) and a conference title. Oklahoma would also have better wins (against West Virginia and Texas) and a conference title. Playoff Predictor says: Clemson is in trouble. Let's say all the favorites win except Clemson: Alabama and Notre Dame would be locks, and the Playoff Predictor would put Ohio State (84 percent) and Oklahoma (79 percent) significantly ahead of Clemson (29 percent). The Tigers' weaker strength of schedule would come back to haunt them in this case. -- Walder HD's prediction: 1. Alabama, 2. Notre Dame, 3. Oklahoma, 4. Ohio State Here's what Sporting News says Scenario 3: Clemson loses 1. Alabama (13-0) 2. Notre Dame (12-0) 3/4. Oklahoma (12-1), Ohio State (12-1), Clemson (12-1) What happens: The Tigers, who are heavy favorites against Pitt in the ACC championship game, lose in spectacular fashion. Ohio State and Oklahoma win. Who gets left out? Clemson will get left out, and the committee can pump up the value of the conference championship game. Alabama-Ohio State and Notre Dame-Oklahoma will draw big ratings, too. Reception: Don't be surprised if that increases the angst between ACC fans and Notre Dame, given the Irish do not have to play in a conference championship game and have an annual five-game arrangement with the conference. Edited December 1, 2018 by Doc Brown Quote
njbuff Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) Haskins might be playing his way into being the first QB drafted in 2019. Edited December 2, 2018 by njbuff Quote
H2o Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 Herbstreit just said he thinks Georgia will jump ND to #3 and the top 4 will be Bama, Clemson, UGA, and ND. He said Ohio St. and OU will both be left out. Heads would explode across the land. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 Just now, H2o said: Herbstreit just said he thinks Georgia will jump ND to #3 and the top 4 will be Bama, Clemson, UGA, and ND. He said Ohio St. and OU will both be left out. Heads would explode across the land. He’s been on that narrative all week. They want drama. Quote
H2o Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s been on that narrative all week. They want drama. If that happens then the selection committee loses all credibility. It has to be OU or Ohio St. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 Just now, H2o said: If that happens then the selection committee loses all credibility. It has to be OU or Ohio St. I don’t think they will, he’s not on the committee he just drives the discussion for espn. Last year he kept saying they were going to take osu over Bama Because of schedule. Wrong. Quote
Doc Brown Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 They put a guy against a girl in a halftime Dr. Pepper throwing competition? Of course he's going to win. Would love to see an Ohio State vs. Oklahoma play in game. Can't they change the rules just this once? Quote
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: They put a guy against a girl in a halftime Dr. Pepper throwing competition? Of course he's going to win. Would love to see an Ohio State vs. Oklahoma play in game. Can't they change the rules just this once? Do you hate defense? Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 59 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: They put a guy against a girl in a halftime Dr. Pepper throwing competition? Of course he's going to win. Would love to see an Ohio State vs. Oklahoma play in game. Can't they change the rules just this once? A guy actually lost to the girl last year. He didn’t do so well on Twitter after. Quote
Doc Brown Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: A guy actually lost to the girl last year. He didn’t do so well on Twitter after. Peterman can't catch a break. 3 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 Hey Urban, if at first you don’t succeed with the jet sweep, try it NINE THOUSAND more times. 1 1 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 This is the most stupid team in the country. But I love them. Stupid champions. 1 1 Quote
RedandBlue Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 44 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Hey Urban, if at first you don’t succeed with the jet sweep, try it NINE THOUSAND more times. Seriously, I was getting pretty ticked often in that one. Haskins is carving them up, stop running the damn ball. That conservative crap in a game where you need to destroy the other team, not wise. Regardless, OH. Who do you have Haskins or Murray? I think it’s going to be ridiculously close. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 1 minute ago, RedandBlue said: Seriously, I was getting pretty ticked often in that one. Haskins is carving them up, stop running the damn ball. That conservative crap in a game where you need to destroy the other team, not wise. Regardless, OH. Who do you have Haskins or Murray? I think it’s going to be ridiculously close. It will probably be Murray. That’s ok. He’s really good too. Could still be Tua.. 10% of voters handed in their ballots before championship weekend... what?!! haskins should win simply for having to play with this stupid defense all year!!! 1 Quote
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