Southern_Bills Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s a weird year with all of the traditional playoff powers breaking in freshman QBs, but refreshing, in a way. Title seems wide open. Also - the Heisman? Anyone? Bueller? I honestly couldn't recommend a single player for Heisman. As an Alabama fan I pray Bryce Young doesn't get it. He has no heart. Michigan state RB is probably the best player. Quote
SirAndrew Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 Watch Michigan lose the B10 championship game. That would be the most Harbaugh/Michigan thing ever. 1 Quote
cle23 Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, bigduke6 said: look even Klatt said it on the Stroud late TD run that was called back for basically nothing, he'd seen tons of no calls that were far worse than that very questionable hold. i respect Klatt totally and on top of that, i saw all this crap with my own 2 eyes. And even with 3 sacks, Hutchinson was held WAY more than what was called. He was headlocked to the ground at least twice that I saw that wasn't called. 1 Quote
jkeerie Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, bigduke6 said: look even Klatt said it on the Stroud late TD run that was called back for basically nothing, he'd seen tons of no calls that were far worse than that very questionable hold. i respect Klatt totally and on top of that, i saw all this crap with my own 2 eyes. I agree with you on that call and heard his comments. I actually saw a hold on the left side of the line and was surprised when they called the player they called. Having said that, the announcer in no way implied that the calls in the game were one-sided. If anything both announcers thought it was a well-earned win by Michigan. 56 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: I honestly couldn't recommend a single player for Heisman. As an Alabama fan I pray Bryce Young doesn't get it. He has no heart. Michigan state RB is probably the best player. I agree. I don't see any QBs that should be in the mix this year. Edited November 27, 2021 by jkeerie 1 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted November 27, 2021 Author Posted November 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Watch Michigan lose the B10 championship game. That would be the most Harbaugh/Michigan thing ever. Wisconsin and Iowa are utterly lifeless on offense, I can’t see it 1 Quote
jkeerie Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wisconsin and Iowa are utterly lifeless on offense, I can’t see it They should replay Michigan and OSU on a neutral field. Those are the 2 best teams in the conference. 1 Quote
Southern_Bills Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, jkeerie said: They should replay Michigan and OSU on a neutral field. Those are the 2 best teams in the conference. Sadly it doesn't work that way. I agree, but it just doesn't. Alabama has played like total crap, but if they can get it done in 3OT, they have a chance for a championship. Quote
jkeerie Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: Sadly it doesn't work that way. I agree, but it just doesn't. Alabama has played like total crap, but if they can get it done in 3OT, they have a chance for a championship. I know. And wishing doesn't make it so. At the start of the season, you thought the Big 10 would be a really great conference, but that did not prove long lasting. They are mediocre. The only teams in college football that have consistently looked good are Georgia and Cincinnati. Quote
Rico Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 Congrats to Blue, them finally winning adds so much sizzle to this rivalry of rivalries. Nothing better than watching 2 good teams play that HATE each other! Quote
Bill from NYC Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Southern_Bills said: Sadly it doesn't work that way. I agree, but it just doesn't. Alabama has played like total crap, but if they can get it done in 3OT, they have a chance for a championship. Actually their defense played very well. This was however a terrible showing from the offense. Quote
Southern_Bills Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: Actually their defense played very well. This was however a terrible showing from the offense. Sure deal, but defense is half the battle. They were playing a backup QB who was limping and it went to OT Like I said, huge Bama fan, grew up in Birmingham, AL, but objectively they were not a playoff team tonight nor the last month or so. If you think differently, great, they may put it together for 3 games, who knows. No way to predict that though. Quote
GaryPinC Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 Congratulations to Michigan and the B1G for adding some juice back to this storied rivalry. Let's hope it can last! 2 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/27/2021 at 4:22 PM, YoloinOhio said: With such a young team, I never even expected playoffs this year but next year it will be on (if they can get some decent LBs). Alabama, especially if Christian Allen comes back, will be overflowing with pass rushing, talented OLBs. One is Drew Sanders. Next year the Tde might pay you back for Jameson Williams. They have too many of these OLBs to keep them all. Wait and see. Quote
Willyville Guy Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 Picking up the pieces and trying to look ahead… With team goals 1 & 2 (Beat TUN & win the B1G) off the table, I guess the Rose Bowl could potentially salvage what has to be called a failed season at this point. I’m seeing speculation that the Rose Bowl might prefer MSU this year because Buckeye fans are miserable and may not travel this year as well as Sparty, whose fans are elated about this season compared to expectations and ready to show up for a Rose Bowl. If Alabama loses to Georgia and doesn’t get in the playoff, it could be a good opportunity to match up OSU and Alabama in a bowl game – at least that would have some juice. During the offseason, Day has the enormous task of overhauling the defense. After two seasons of defense ranging from awful to just good enough, it’s time to say goodbye to Coombs and Barnes. I’m not sure what to do with Al Washington or even Larry Johnson for that matter. Both of those guys are highly regarded – and LJ in particular is a legend – but their units have been badly underperforming. Maybe with new leadership at the top things will improve. Time to bring back Dantonio? Would Marcus Freeman come if offered? Who else is out there? This is a huge test for the head coach. He made decisive moves during the season, and so I would think he’s ready to do what needs to be done during the offseason. This offseason has the potential to define his time as head coach for better or for worse. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2021 Author Posted November 29, 2021 20 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said: Picking up the pieces and trying to look ahead… With team goals 1 & 2 (Beat TUN & win the B1G) off the table, I guess the Rose Bowl could potentially salvage what has to be called a failed season at this point. I’m seeing speculation that the Rose Bowl might prefer MSU this year because Buckeye fans are miserable and may not travel this year as well as Sparty, whose fans are elated about this season compared to expectations and ready to show up for a Rose Bowl. If Alabama loses to Georgia and doesn’t get in the playoff, it could be a good opportunity to match up OSU and Alabama in a bowl game – at least that would have some juice. During the offseason, Day has the enormous task of overhauling the defense. After two seasons of defense ranging from awful to just good enough, it’s time to say goodbye to Coombs and Barnes. I’m not sure what to do with Al Washington or even Larry Johnson for that matter. Both of those guys are highly regarded – and LJ in particular is a legend – but their units have been badly underperforming. Maybe with new leadership at the top things will improve. Time to bring back Dantonio? Would Marcus Freeman come if offered? Who else is out there? This is a huge test for the head coach. He made decisive moves during the season, and so I would think he’s ready to do what needs to be done during the offseason. This offseason has the potential to define his time as head coach for better or for worse. I’m hearing rumors that the only asst coaches expected back are Hartline and Coombs. LJ retiring. Wilson and Alford to take HC jobs. Cleaning house on D. Stud will be fired. I assume they are hanging on to Coombs for recruiting. Quote
Willyville Guy Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m hearing rumors that the only asst coaches expected back are Hartline and Coombs. LJ retiring. Wilson and Alford to take HC jobs. Cleaning house on D. Stud will be fired. I assume they are hanging on to Coombs for recruiting. Surprised to hear Coombs is expected back -- mostly because during his big speech about his demotion he emphasized that he'll continue to give the program everything he's got "this year." My takeaway was that he'll finish out the year and move on to something else. Edited November 29, 2021 by Willyville Guy Quote
Bill from NYC Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said: Surprised to hear Coombs is expected back -- mostly because during his big speech about his demotion he emphasized that he'll continue to give the program everything he's got "this year." My takeaway was that he'll finish out the year and move on to something else. Btw, my sympathy to you and @YoloinOhio. I know how it is to come close and just miss as a Bills Fan and a Tide Fan. Taking it a step further, I thought it would be OSU vs. UGA in the title game. Hey, maybe next year it will be OSU/Crimson Tide! 1 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2021 Author Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: Btw, my sympathy to you and @YoloinOhio. I know how it is to come close and just miss as a Bills Fan and a Tide Fan. Taking it a step further, I thought it would be OSU vs. UGA in the title game. Hey, maybe next year it will be OSU/Crimson Tide! Thanks, though I don’t think they “just missed”. Just missing to me is playing a close game and losing at the end. They did neither of those things. Whether they were bored with Michigan or looking ahead to the playoffs already or what, they got smacked by the hungrier team. They didn’t deserve to go further. It’s a very young team and I didn’t expect to win the title this year. The year I did was 2019 and THAT was the year they had it all and “just missed” - and it was heartbreaking. Imo Edited November 29, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted November 29, 2021 Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Thanks, though I don’t think they “just missed”. Just missing to me is playing a close game and losing at the end. They did neither of those things. Whether they were bored with Michigan or looking ahead to the playoffs already or what, they got smacked by the hungrier team. They didn’t deserve to go further. It’s a very young team and I didn’t expect to win the title this year. The year I did was 2019 and THAT was the year they had it all and “just missed” - and it was heartbreaking. Imo You obviously know your team better than I do. I likened your team a bit to last year's Alabama team sans Mac Jones. You seemed to have the receivers and the running game. Your QB is not Mac Jones (and btw neither is ours imo). Our OL is considerably worse than 2020. To put it in perspective, Evan Neal was our RIGHT Tackle. That line was all world. This team is getting by on pure guts and of course, Nick Saban. Once again, I hope that we meet again next year. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2021 Author Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: You obviously know your team better than I do. I likened your team a bit to last year's Alabama team sans Mac Jones. You seemed to have the receivers and the running game. Your QB is not Mac Jones (and btw neither is ours imo). Our OL is considerably worse than 2020. To put it in perspective, Evan Neal was our RIGHT Tackle. That line was all world. This team is getting by on pure guts and of course, Nick Saban. Once again, I hope that we meet again next year. Thanks. Defense was never stable all year with issues that kept getting duct taped over and were never fixed. They had a guy who just converted from RB in august as their best LB. A TE was playing LB on Saturday. Safeties were never healthy. DL underperformed. They have some high end talent that are true freshmen and shined already this year so that’s a bright spot. Offense wasn’t the issue obviously, but the OL underperformed in games where they had to control the LOS because they play tackles at guard (??) and a true freshman at center. As they say, maybe next year. 1 Quote
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