CountryCletus Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 It dosent matter how many catches or yards he has does it? It's all about winning! How about 5 or 6 guys having 700 yards and winning 11 or 12 games? If he can draw attention away from other playmakers, to let them do their thing, then I'm all in for spreading it around, the only thing that matters is to WIN ���� I think Sammy is a lightning combined with TNT....
Dorkington Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 He's a future pro-bowler, and future ex Bill playing for a playoff team.
K D Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) because the bills have a run first offense and a strong group of WRs. The ball will be spread around, theoretically. I don't care how many yards he has - he makes the team better simply by making the D game plan for him which will leave other guys open to hopefully make plays. As far as targets, I don't know how many he will have. He is going to be lined up in various places if you listen to the coaching staff. It dosent matter how many catches or yards he has does it? It's all about winning! How about 5 or 6 guys having 700 yards and winning 11 or 12 games? If he can draw attention away from other playmakers, to let them do their thing, then I'm all in for spreading it around, the only thing that matters is to WIN ���� I do agree but I'm under the belief that you need to get the ball in the hands of your playmakers as much as you can. Guys like Watkins and Spiller have the ability to take it to the house every time they touch the ball. I would target Sammy on some WR screens like what they used to do at Clemson just in order to get him a few more touches per game. And hit Spiller on some swing passes out of the backfield. If they are going to double Sammy then bring him on a drag route and swing Spiller out to where he was and it will be Spiller vs a LB in space. I agree on most plays that it's good to spread the ball around but there should be some plays designed specifically for these 2 guys Edited July 23, 2014 by kdiggz
CountryCletus Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 He's a future pro-bowler, and future ex Bill playing for a playoff team. I hope you don't mean ex Bill as in he's a one contract and gone kind of guy
Dorkington Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 I hope you don't mean ex Bill as in he's a one contract and gone kind of guy It's very pessimistic of me, but yeah... When you have a guy who could very possibly be best in the game... why would they stick around on a perennial loser?
The Big Cat Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 I reject OP's premise that this isn't a rant looking for a topic. If by now you can't determine what makes Sammy Watkins 'different'--given all the training camp reports, his college highlight reels, the scouting reports et al--then it feels as though you're proactively ignoring the conventional wisdom which more-than-adequately provides the answer you're looking for.
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 I do agree but I'm under the belief that you need to get the ball in the hands of your playmakers as much as you can. Guys like Watkins and Spiller have the ability to take it to the house every time they touch the ball. I would target Sammy on some WR screens like what they used to do at Clemson just in order to get him a few more touches per game. And hit Spiller on some swing passes out of the backfield. If they are going to double Sammy then bring him on a drag route and swing Spiller out to where he was and it will be Spiller vs a LB in space. I agree on most plays that it's good to spread the ball around but there should be some plays designed specifically for these 2 guys I am with you kdiggz. When you have a guy that explosive you need to find ways to get the ball in his hands and let him make plays. Maybe it is something that you do on early downs but in addition to your regular offense you should run some bubble screens, jet sweeps, etc...
CountryCletus Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 It's very pessimistic of me, but yeah... When you have a guy who could very possibly be best in the game... why would they stick around on a perennial loser? The past is no indication of the future... He may be one of those key pieces that turn this ship around- and by the end of his contract we are a playoff team and serious Super Bowl contender
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Have you guys seen his catch this morning?!? Sal from WGR just tweeted the vine. Unbelievable!! Edited July 23, 2014 by Kirby Jackson
Dorkington Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 I sure am hoping he's the new Andre Reed that makes the new Jim Kelly But, I certainly can't expect it, the way things have been going.
Hplarrm Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 I think Sammy is a lightning combined with TNT.... The big advantage which Watkins appears to bring is that it sounds like his diverse talents simply demand a double-team. What this means is: 1. When the Bills line up in a standard set (Spiller and Jax at RB, Watkins split wide and Woods on the other side probably the TE or strong sideside ) the opponents need to make a choice about committing a a safety toward the Watkins side. Watkins job is likely to immediately get separation from the CB who is likely on top of him and force the safety to concentrate on him The Bills now can do a lot of work on the other side of field ranging from a hand-off to Spiller or Jax who pick a hole made by us really having an extra blocker at the point of attack or even better, have the RB (particularly Spiller) cutback and really have one tackler to beat as Watkins has drawn two players down field to dt him. Manual has a pretty easy read to make as he simply has to judge which way the free safety dting Watkins is leaning outside (to get Watkins if he is gets good separation on the CB likely doing press coverage) or inside to be there to support run stopping if Jax or Spiller runs inside. If the safety cheats in, the Watkins and Manual make the simple read and Watkins does a fly pattern aganst one-on-one coverage. If the safety is cheating outside the hand the ball off to an RB who is running toward Woods side. There are lots of other options created with Chandler or the TE working as far downfield as they can depending on the quality of coverage of the strongside LB (Chandler almost never likely sees safety coverage as the opposing safeties have their hands full with the Watkins dt or run support and he is a big boy anyway). Even better, as Spiller has wideout potential, and Jax game is all around runner and pass catcher, the Bills can either run a standard set (2 RBs and a likely run) or even run an empty backfield with both Spiller and Jax split out. If this is the set-up then Manual/WR need merely read who is the worst cover guy in our 5 wide set-up and Manual throws to the guy he thinks will most easily beat his cover guy off the line. I like what I see from Watkins skill set.
Dorkington Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Have you guys seen his catch this morning?!? Sal from WGR just tweeted the vine. Unbelievable!! https://vine.co/v/M2x62ilE9Up
Tyrod's Tailor Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Have you guys seen his catch this morning?!? Sal from WGR just tweeted the vine. Unbelievable!! https://vine.co/v/M2x62ilE9Up That's another $100 million on the team valuation.
K D Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 It's very pessimistic of me, but yeah... When you have a guy who could very possibly be best in the game... why would they stick around on a perennial loser? Well the whole point in getting him is to not be perennial losers anymore. This could be the start
YoloinOhio Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Have you guys seen his catch this morning?!? Sal from WGR just tweeted the vine. Unbelievable!! https://vine.co/v/M2x62ilE9Up Took the words (er, characters) right out of my mouth Ryan @RyanTalbotBills 2m If the pick ends up being high, well congratulations #Browns. I personally have never been more excited about a player. #Watkins
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 I think that it is funny that this thread is going on while he makes that play. It is almost as if Sammy is challenging us, "say something!!"
FluffHead Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 who is sammy watkins? sammy watkins is a man who hates hair cuts.
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