The Underdog Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Mike Vick... wait nevermind too late. Honestly I dont really want Tuel or Thad but if I had to pick between the two probably Tuel.
Kellyto83TD Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 EJ as backup with Aaron Rogers starting. Hey you said 'Who do you want'.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 I like Tuel, but his ball seems to float. Is that because he's displaying "touch", or a noodle arm? Anyone recall him really zipping a ball into a tight space. Thad is a gamer! I like the way he popped up after being beaten like a rag doll (although watching our QB getting trashed like that was unpleasant). Limited upside maybe, but gutsy. What do you like about him? Thus far, though it's been very limited, he's made JP Losman look good. And that's tough to do.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 The real best QB. Height,arm strength, don`t mean nothing when the real bullets are flying. A brain and accuracy will go much farther.
EmotionallyUnstable Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Jumping in late here. I'd take Thad based on performance last year. He wasn't that bad. Tuel wasn't terrible as some people suggested. However made unforgettable mistakes in crucial moments. Thad is 2.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Thad: Pros: Good arm; gutsy/tough player; seems pretty smart; good mobility Cons: Ball-handling (incl fumbles); sacks (poor pocket presence, IMO); intermediate accuracy. Tuel: Pros: Very good deep ball/touch; very good pocket presence; quick decisionmaker; seems pretty smart Cons: Intermediate accuracy; arm strengh; decisionmaking; lack of experience
reddogblitz Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 And who did I forget? Losman? Trentative? Fitz? Kelly Holcombe The real best QB. Height,arm strength, don`t mean nothing when the real bullets are flying. A brain and accuracy will go much farther. Tuel is a good practice player. Thaddeus is a gamer.
Captain Hindsight Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Whoever takes care of the ball. Thad has fumbalities and Tuel has a few picks to his name Whoever cleans that up is who should earn it
3rdand12 Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 I will choose whoe ever is the better player by the end of camp or preseason. Good battle to watch though , i think .
billsfan1959 Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 IMO, Tuel is not nearly as bad as many posters want to make him out to be. I think he will end up being a perfectly serviceable backup QB, along the lines of a Frank Reich. He is smart, decisive, shows pretty good pocket awareness, and in spite of all the talk about his arm strength, he shows a surprisingly good ability to get the ball deep with a good touch on it. I think his primary problem is lack of experience. I think Thad Lewis played fairly well at times last year; however, I don't see him progressing much further in terms of ability. Tuel may not either, yet I think he has the potential to develop into a better QB than Lewis. I hope Tuel legitimately wins the backup QB spot this year.
Tyrod's Tailor Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 IMO, Tuel is not nearly as bad as many posters want to make him out to be. I think he will end up being a perfectly serviceable backup QB, along the lines of a Frank Reich. He is smart, decisive, shows pretty good pocket awareness, and in spite of all the talk about his arm strength, he shows a surprisingly good ability to get the ball deep with a good touch on it. I think his primary problem is lack of experience. I think Thad Lewis played fairly well at times last year; however, I don't see him progressing much further in terms of ability. Tuel may not either, yet I think he has the potential to develop into a better QB than Lewis. I hope Tuel legitimately wins the backup QB spot this year. He needs more experience at D-1 level, seeing as how he won four games in 26 starts there.
billsfan1959 Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 He needs more experience at D-1 level, seeing as how he won four games in 26 starts there. If you know anything about that program while Tuel was there, then you'd know that you can't place the majority of the blame on him. He also finished with the highest completion percentage in school history and in the top ten in completions, touchdowns and passing yards. I'm not saying he is ever going to be anything more than a backup QB; however, this idea that he is absolutely horrific is, IMO, not a legitimate characterization
Tyrod's Tailor Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 If you know anything about that program while Tuel was there, then you'd know that you can't place the majority of the blame on him. He also finished with the highest completion percentage in school history and in the top ten in completions, touchdowns and passing yards. I'm not saying he is ever going to be anything more than a backup QB; however, this idea that he is absolutely horrific is, IMO, not a legitimate characterization OK that's a cheap dig, but I still think he's unfit for the NFL. As JR noted above, bad arm, bad decisionmaking is NOT a good combination.
VADC Bills Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 I want the best QB like everyone else. With that being said until Tuel can show me that he can win a game, I have to go Lewis.
Rockinon Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 I want the best QB like everyone else. With that being said until Tuel can show me that he can win a game, I have to go Lewis. This is kind of where I am at. Tuel came to camp in better shape and is working hard. He's making plays in camp too. I need more than this limited amount of practice though. I want to see him light it up in preseason. You can't help but like Lewis, though. His will to win is very strong and that masks some of his shortcomings. He did get thrown in to games without the benefit of camp last year too, so it only makes sense that he will improve this year as well. This is all good stuff. There is no reason what so ever to think the passing game will not be better than last year and from all three QBs.
bills1960 Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 I think when it comes down to it, Thad is more of a finished product; however I believe Tuel may have a higher ceiling (though it may not be that high to begin with). I think Thad is grossly inaccurate at times with easier throws that need to be made, whereas Tuel can make the shorter throws, but struggles down the middle. This obviously is based on the 1.25 games Tuel played. I know I'll probably get the, "Thad won two games" defense, but let's be real, Mario won that first Miami game for us. But this is really a moot point being that both of these guys are not back-up QB material.
NoSaint Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) OK that's a cheap dig, but I still think he's unfit for the NFL. As JR noted above, bad arm, bad decisionmaking is NOT a good combination. Cheap delivery maybe but I think its a fair dig. How many starting nfl qbs never even led a team to a bowl game? Fitz? And fitz had a conference championship. While I don't expect him to be a national champion.... at 4-22 he didn't have enough wins in his career to be bowl eligible in a single season. I think that's got to be a major red flag. Edited July 23, 2014 by NoSaint
dubs Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Cheap delivery maybe but I think its a fair dig. How many starting nfl qbs never even led a team to a bowl game? Fitz? And fitz had a conference championship. While I don't expect him to be a national champion.... at 4-22 he didn't have enough wins in his career to be bowl eligible in a single season. I think that's got to be a major red flag. I agree. Tuel is the worst QB I've seen since Babe Laufenberg. Last year (in a tough situation) he was an abomination. Personally I blame the FO for even letting the QB situation get to that point. Drew Bledose could come in tomorrow and be a better QB than Tuel.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 One of the reasons I root hard for Tuel is the hope that we found a diamond in the rough, like the Pats did with Tom Brady. It may be wishful thinking, but for once I would love to have that kind of luck.
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