GoBills808 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I don't want that person on my team or anywhere near my office. That's totally fine, and well within your right as an employer. My issue is equating cannabis use with personal or moral defects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 That's totally fine, and well within your right as an employer. My issue is equating cannabis use with personal or moral defects. There is a defect with someone who wakes and bakes and smokes all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 There is a defect with someone who wakes and bakes and smokes all day. We're not in disagreement. But the usage rate/defect ratio pertains to a variety of substances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 We're not in disagreement. But the usage rate/defect ratio pertains to a variety of substances. We're not talking about a variety of substances. We're talking about one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 We're not talking about a variety of substances. We're talking about one. Without placing cannabis in its proper context among the myriad of abused substances you can't properly define its impact, and thus you can't make a determination about the particular user's constitution. For example: how much is too much daily cannabis use for you to consider that individual sufficiently compromised? One toke? One joint? Ten? Then compare that to your feelings about alcohol usage and ask yourself what your threshold is for evaluating his or her moral compass: one beer? Two? A case? It's all about context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Without placing cannabis in its proper context among the myriad of abused substances you can't properly define its impact, It makes dumbasses start threads like this, whereas no one ever started a thread on the miracle cure-all properties of cocaine or huffing paint thinner. Right there, it's impact is significantly worse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 It makes dumbasses start threads like this, whereas no one ever started a thread on the miracle cure-all properties of cocaine or huffing paint thinner. Right there, it's impact is significantly worse... It's all about health risk vs medicinal benefit. That's why cannabis needs more research, along with less naysayers AND less abusers. And who hasn't done blow medicinally? It's all I take for my anxiety! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Without placing cannabis in its proper context among the myriad of abused substances you can't properly define its impact, and thus you can't make a determination about the particular user's constitution. For example: how much is too much daily cannabis use for you to consider that individual sufficiently compromised? One toke? One joint? Ten? Then compare that to your feelings about alcohol usage and ask yourself what your threshold is for evaluating his or her moral compass: one beer? Two? A case? It's all about context. I'm not evaluating anyone's moral compass. I'm evaluating their mental state. Anyone who smokes weed all day in my opinion has a mental problem. And I pretty much dismiss any argument on the subject of self medication as soon as people start comparing one substance to another. And if you suffer from anxiety I suggest you lay off the cola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 It's all about health risk vs medicinal benefit. That's why cannabis needs more research, along with less naysayers AND less abusers. And fewer proselytizing idiots who claim it cures "disease." The biggest argument against legalized pot is still the addle-brained stupidity of the people espousing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 There is a defect with someone who wakes and bakes and smokes all day. They would physically stink and I wouldn't want to be around them for that reason alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 And fewer proselytizing idiots who claim it cures "disease." The biggest argument against legalized pot is still the addle-brained stupidity of the people espousing it. If the espousal of the stupid is your limiting factor, I have some very bad news for you regarding pretty much everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 There is a defect with someone who wakes and bakes and smokes all day. And accomplishes nothing What of people who do so and make substantial contributions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 And accomplishes nothing What of people who do so and make substantial contributions? We can live happily without the "substantial contributions" of people like Tom Petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 And accomplishes nothing What of people who do so and make substantial contributions? They still likel have a mental problem. Lots of mentally ill people that contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Some guy on another board was saying he wouldn't be impaired to drive an hour after smoking a joint. I said: You better be impaired an hour later - or buy some better ****. His answer: Please. I'm smoking high quality medical grade cannabis. I've been smoking since 1981 and I've been a daily smoker for at least 25 years now. I would say I smoke an average of 5 to 6 joints most days. THC and CBD are present in my system in fairly high levels which increases tolerance for the chemicals. I may not smoke an entire joint in a sitting. Sometimes I'll smoke a third or so, then a bit more in an hour, then the last of it a bit later on. In a case like that, sure I'm high for several hours, but if I just smoke until Im stoned then stop, I'm clear in about an hour. This was at some point after I made the observation that the people I know who are the craziest angriest anti Trumpers also seem to smoke the most pot - and this didn't make sense as I thought it was supposed to mellow you out. This guy is the angriest of the angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Some guy on another board was saying he wouldn't be impaired to drive an hour after smoking a joint. I said: You better be impaired an hour later - or buy some better ****. His answer: Please. I'm smoking high quality medical grade cannabis. I've been smoking since 1981 and I've been a daily smoker for at least 25 years now. I would say I smoke an average of 5 to 6 joints most days. THC and CBD are present in my system in fairly high levels which increases tolerance for the chemicals. I may not smoke an entire joint in a sitting. Sometimes I'll smoke a third or so, then a bit more in an hour, then the last of it a bit later on. In a case like that, sure I'm high for several hours, but if I just smoke until Im stoned then stop, I'm clear in about an hour. This was at some point after I made the observation that the people I know who are the craziest angriest anti Trumpers also seem to smoke the most pot - and this didn't make sense as I thought it was supposed to mellow you out. This guy is the angriest of the angry. Sounds like a stoner with a mental problem to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 They still likel have a mental problem. Lots of mentally ill people that contribute. What kind of mental problem ? Should they switch to adderal, white wine, and marlboro lights like the "stable" folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 What kind of mental problem ? Should they switch to adderal, white wine, and marlboro lights like the "stable" folks. You don't think someone who has to self medicate all day every day doesn't have a mental problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Sounds like a stoner with a mental problem to me. Yeah - I don't know if the 25 straight years of being stoned caused the mental problem or if it was there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 What kind of mental problem ? The kind that causes enjoyment of Tom Petty "music..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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