Tiberius Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, LeviF said: Question: what happened in the "wild west" that turned it less wild? Answer: the state shooting, hanging, or locking up the people making it wild. Interesting. Maybe we could try that. We lock up more people than anyone. Drain the swamp of guns and we won't have two mass shootings a day Stop the arms race on the street
LeviF Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: We lock up more people than anyone. Drain the swamp of guns and we won't have two mass shootings a day Stop the arms race on the street The west still had all the guns when it turned tame. This "America incarcerates too much" nonsense has been laughed out of the room. Every day criminals are released back onto the street without so much as an arrest processing. As I've posted before, the solutions *that don't involve gun confiscation* to this are laughably simple. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, LeviF said: Question: what happened in the "wild west" that turned it less wild? Answer: the state shooting, hanging, or locking up the people making it wild. Interesting. Maybe we could try that. Come on. the answer is to sue the gun companies, ammo companies and car companies. 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: We lock up more people than anyone. Drain the swamp of guns and we won't have two mass shootings a day you going door to door? like a science experiment? start where the gun violence per capita is the highest? or like the cops/military? articulate the logistics.
Tiberius Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, LeviF said: The west still had all the guns when it turned tame. This "America incarcerates too much" nonsense has been laughed out of the room. Every day criminals are released back onto the street without so much as an arrest processing. As I've posted before, the solutions *that don't involve gun confiscation* to this are laughably simple. It's just way too easy for anyone to get guns. Locking up people isn't the answer. The guns will still flood the local communities. Drain the swamp of guns.
LeviF Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: It's just way too easy for anyone to get guns. Locking up people isn't the answer. The guns will still flood the local communities. Drain the swamp of guns. If everyone in the local community is high-trust, a reasonable IQ, and not inclined toward crime, will the guns just walk around and kill people on their own? 2
Tiberius Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, LeviF said: If everyone in the local community is high-trust, a reasonable IQ, and not inclined toward crime, will the guns just walk around and kill people on their own? People are generally not like that. Throw in poverty, crowding and ignorance and guns are just a cancer
Tommy Callahan Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Its interesting that on this topic, the lefties call for bans. But over on the abortion thread, they repeat over and over again how a ban doesn't work and people will just find the illegal route. cant make it up. 1
LeviF Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: People are generally not like that. Throw in poverty, crowding and ignorance and guns are just a cancer Actually, several peoples are generally like that. Entire countries, even. Many enclaves in America are still like that. But take a look at the homicide stats and we start seeing what peoples are anti-social, lower IQ, and more inclined toward crime.
Tiberius Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, LeviF said: Actually, several peoples are generally like that. Entire countries, even. Many enclaves in America are still like that. But take a look at the homicide stats and we start seeing what peoples are anti-social, lower IQ, and more inclined toward crime. Black communities have been oppressed for hundreds of years and are still suffering the social consequences from that, so ya, gun violence will effect them more. Gun suicides affect rural white America on a much higher level with the poverty, isolation and easy access to guns.
LeviF Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, Tiberius said: Black communities have been oppressed for hundreds of years and are still suffering the social consequences from that, so ya, gun violence will effect them more. Gun suicides affect rural white America on a much higher level with the poverty, isolation and easy access to guns. Yes, I hate it when socioeconomic conditions make me murder my neighbors. 1
Tiberius Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, LeviF said: Yes, I hate it when socioeconomic conditions make me murder my neighbors. I hate it when any unstable, toxically masculine a-hole can threaten his neighbors with a gun I hate it when a husband can threaten his wife who wants to leave him...with a gun I hate it when guys who are still basically children feel they need to carry a gun
LeviF Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, Tiberius said: I hate it when any unstable, toxically masculine a-hole can threaten his neighbors with a gun I hate it when a husband can threaten his wife who wants to leave him...with a gun I hate it when guys who are still basically children feel they need to carry a gun Well while you work on a constitutional amendment, let's lock up everyone who criminally brandishes or possesses a firearm for a 10 year minimum. Deal? 1
Tiberius Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, LeviF said: Well while you work on a constitutional amendment, let's lock up everyone who criminally brandishes or possesses a firearm for a 10 year minimum. Deal? Just interpret 2nd Amendment properly, "Well regulated" but not all guns should be banned.
LeviF Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 lol leftists would rather do anything other than prosecute criminals. This is why all of their mewlings about "deterrence" and guns are meaningless and should be ignored. 5
B-Man Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 Civil Rights update: Federal court strikes down California ban on gun magazines for second time by Jenny Goldsberry A federal judge yet again declared California's ban on gun magazines unconstitutional Friday. The ban was first instituted in a 2000 measure signed into law by then-Gov. Gray Davis, a Democrat, and prohibited state residents from buying or selling magazines that hold 10 or more rounds. U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez struck it down after previously striking it in 2019. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned Benitez's ruling in 2021, arguing that the ban fell in line with the state's efforts to reduce gun violence and is compatible with the Second Amendment. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/courts/federal-court-california-ban-magazines-second-time 1
Tiberius Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Michael Gardner wanted to start his nephew’s wedding with a bang. His plan involved shooting a blank from a revolver into the air to signal to the roughly 200 people gathered on Saturday that the outdoor ceremony, which he was officiating, was about to begin. But when Gardner cocked back the hammer of the gun, it slipped, and the homemade blank that he had used, which was closed off with glue, fired from the Pietta 1860 snub-nose revolver that he had borrowed, he said. Keeping up with politics is easy with The 5-Minute Fix Newsletter, in your inbox weekdays. As the bride was about to walk down the aisle, what was supposed to be a day of love in Denton, Neb., turned into one of unexpected panic: The wedding officiant accidentally shot his 12-year-old grandson in the shoulder. Despite the shooting, Gardner finished officiating the wedding. The 12-year-old boy was taken to Children’s Hospital about an hour away in Omaha, and his injuries aren’t life-threatening, said Ben Houchin, chief deputy of the Lancaster County Sheriff’s Office in Nebraska. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/10/04/wedding-officiant-shoots-grandson-michael-gardner-nebraska/
Tiberius Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: Michael Gardner is stupid. The obvious answer is to restrict guns from ALL Americans. Genius. Even the suckers and losers?
Orlando Buffalo Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Imagine trying to argue that an inanimate object that has a safely used 99% of the time by 99% of the of the population should be banned because of the issues caused by morons and immoral people. 2
Tiberius Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 MADISON, Wis. — A man with a handgun showed up at the Wisconsin Capitol demanding to see Gov. Tony Evers (D) on Wednesday, was arrested, posted bail, returned to the Statehouse with an assault rifle and was taken into protective custody, according to police. The shirtless man had a holstered handgun and leashed dog with him when he appeared at the security desk outside of the governor’s office Wednesday afternoon demanding to see the governor, according to a statement from the state police. An officer arrested him for openly carrying a firearm. The man was booked into jail and posted bail. He returned to the outside of the Capitol with a loaded AK-47 around 9 p.m., three hours after the Statehouse closed, according to the state police. He asked to see the governor again. Officers spoke with him and asked to search his backpack. He agreed and they found a police baton, which they said violated state law because the man did not have a concealed-weapons permit, according to police. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/05/evers-wisconsin-rifle/
Tommy Callahan Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: MADISON, Wis. — A man with a handgun showed up at the Wisconsin Capitol demanding to see Gov. Tony Evers (D) on Wednesday, was arrested, posted bail, returned to the Statehouse with an assault rifle and was taken into protective custody, according to police. The shirtless man had a holstered handgun and leashed dog with him when he appeared at the security desk outside of the governor’s office Wednesday afternoon demanding to see the governor, according to a statement from the state police. An officer arrested him for openly carrying a firearm. The man was booked into jail and posted bail. He returned to the outside of the Capitol with a loaded AK-47 around 9 p.m., three hours after the Statehouse closed, according to the state police. He asked to see the governor again. Officers spoke with him and asked to search his backpack. He agreed and they found a police baton, which they said violated state law because the man did not have a concealed-weapons permit, according to police. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/05/evers-wisconsin-rifle/ what's the person's name?
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