Roundybout Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: 400 million guns in the country... you have to go looking for rare incidents to damn all gun-owners. So, we should damn every Muslim for 9/11? If you ask right-wingers, yes lol. Just as they blamed Chinese people for Covid. As for me, no, I'm just pointing out that a lot of gun owners are mentally unstable boomers who listen to Alex Jones all day and live in a constant state of paranoia. 1 1
aristocrat Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, BillStime said: care to explain the non phone call? You don’t find it strange?
ArdmoreRyno Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: If you ask right-wingers, yes lol. Just as they blamed Chinese people for Covid. As for me, no, I'm just pointing out that a lot of gun owners are mentally unstable boomers who listen to Alex Jones all day and live in a constant state of paranoia. What right wing people blamed the people of China? The Chinese government? Yea. Not the Chinese people. If you're talking about the Asian hate crimes... those haven't been carried out by right wing people. What is your definition of "a lot"? You're making assumptions. 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: care to explain the non phone call? You don’t find it strange? He knows. He just won't admit that those deaths don't fit the liberal agenda. They only care about 'white on black' or 'police on black' incidents.
Roundybout Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, aristocrat said: care to explain the non phone call? You don’t find it strange? Do you have any source on this beyond the sad snowflake anti-"wokeness" account? 10 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: What right wing people blamed the people of China? The Chinese government? Yea. Not the Chinese people. If you're talking about the Asian hate crimes... those haven't been carried out by right wing people. What is your definition of "a lot"? You're making assumptions. https://www.npr.org/2021/08/12/1027236499/anti-asian-hate-crimes-assaults-pandemic-incidents-aapi Stop AAPI Hate, a national coalition that became the authority on gathering data on racially motivated attacks related to the pandemic, received 9,081 incident reports between March 19, 2020, and this June. Of those, 4,548 occurred last year, and 4,533 this year. Since the coronavirus was first reported in China, people of Asian and Pacific Islander descent have been treated as scapegoats solely based on their race. Many Asian Americans and others blame former President Donald Trump for ratcheting up the danger by talking about the virus in racially charged terms. 1
aristocrat Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Do you have any source on this beyond the sad snowflake anti-"wokeness" account? Prove me wrong if you want 1
Roundybout Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Prove me wrong if you want Proving a negative is a logical fallacy. But since right-wingers don't really care about that, https://nypost.com/2021/11/22/biden-condemns-attack-at-waukesha-christmas-parade/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/04/06/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-expulsion-of-tennessee-lawmakers-for-acting-on-gun-safety/ Edited April 18, 2023 by Roundybout 1
aristocrat Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Proving a negative is a logical fallacy. But since right-wingers don't really care about that, https://nypost.com/2021/11/22/biden-condemns-attack-at-waukesha-christmas-parade/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/04/06/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-expulsion-of-tennessee-lawmakers-for-acting-on-gun-safety/ Don't see anywher in there about visitng or calling the victims. Calls the other ones though. why? the correct response is...yea he should have called all of them 2
Roundybout Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 Just now, aristocrat said: Don't see anywher in there about visitng or calling the victims. Calls the other ones though. why? the correct response is...yea he should have called all of them He probably did privately given the statements he made. 1 1
Tiberius Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 46 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: 400 million guns in the country... you have to go looking for rare incidents to damn all gun-owners. So, we should damn every Muslim for 9/11? rare? Don't guns kill more young people than anything?
BillStime Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Prove me wrong if you want First Lady met with victims. Get over yourself
aristocrat Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Roundybout said: He probably did privately given the statements he made. He didn't. They would announce he did like they announced he called the other families. 7 minutes ago, BillStime said: First Lady met with victims. Get over yourself She met withthe lawmakers who were expelled not the vitims. Keep trying and taking these L's. Its funny. https://nypost.com/2023/04/08/kamala-harris-ripped-for-meeting-expelled-tenn-dems-and-not-mass-shooting-victims/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nashville-school-shooting-jill-biden-visit-candlelight-vigil-today-2023-03-29/ JIll went to a vigil no call or meeting with victims. fyi Edited April 18, 2023 by aristocrat 2
Roundybout Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, aristocrat said: He didn't. They would announce he did like they announced he called the other families. She met withthe lawmakers who were expelled not the vitims. Keep trying and taking these L's. Its funny. https://nypost.com/2023/04/08/kamala-harris-ripped-for-meeting-expelled-tenn-dems-and-not-mass-shooting-victims/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nashville-school-shooting-jill-biden-visit-candlelight-vigil-today-2023-03-29/ JIll went to a vigil no call or meeting with victims. fyi Why? They are under no obligation to announce it. I'm sure you think Christians are super persecuted and whatnot, but this is ridiculous.
ArdmoreRyno Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, Roundybout said: pandemic 22 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Do you have any source on this beyond the sad snowflake anti-"wokeness" account? https://www.npr.org/2021/08/12/1027236499/anti-asian-hate-crimes-assaults-pandemic-incidents-aapi Stop AAPI Hate, a national coalition that became the authority on gathering data on racially motivated attacks related to the pandemic, received 9,081 incident reports between March 19, 2020, and this June. Of those, 4,548 occurred last year, and 4,533 this year. Since the coronavirus was first reported in China, people of Asian and Pacific Islander descent have been treated as scapegoats solely based on their race. Many Asian Americans and others blame former President Donald Trump for ratcheting up the danger by talking about the virus in racially charged terms. Funny, again... most Asian hate crimes are not carried out by right wingers. You know this. Studies show that one race in particular are the main people harming Asians. And I'm still not seeing where people are blaming the Chinese people. 1
aristocrat Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Why? They are under no obligation to announce it. I'm sure you think Christians are super persecuted and whatnot, but this is ridiculous. Again, the correct answer is yea he should have called all the victims. Not claiming he probably did they just didn't announce it lol. Then claiming I am wrong for being a little pisssed he didn't call them. Hilarious 1
ArdmoreRyno Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, Tiberius said: rare? Don't guns kill more young people than anything? Has nothing to do with what we were talking about... and we've talked about how you can lump certain ages to fit a narrative (like the 19 and under stat, instead of 18 and under). 2
ChiGoose Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 When people argue that the solution to gun violence is more guns (like arming teachers or putting more officers in schools), they are promoting policies that will result in more gun deaths because people are human, will make mistakes, and those mistakes become deadly when a firearm is present. Upstate NY woman, 20, fatally shot after turning down wrong driveway Kansas City police probe shooting of Black teen who went to wrong house to pick up his younger brothers Video shows police at the wrong house before fatal shooting of homeowner in New Mexico 1 1
ArdmoreRyno Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: When people argue that the solution to gun violence is more guns (like arming teachers or putting more officers in schools), they are promoting policies that will result in more gun deaths because people are human, will make mistakes, and those mistakes become deadly when a firearm is present. Upstate NY woman, 20, fatally shot after turning down wrong driveway Kansas City police probe shooting of Black teen who went to wrong house to pick up his younger brothers Video shows police at the wrong house before fatal shooting of homeowner in New Mexico Would you rather have (throwing out a mythical scenario) 3 accidental discharges/deaths by armed staff/SRO in schools or have 50 school children killed per year in a legit school shooting? 1
Tommy Callahan Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: When people argue that the solution to gun violence is more guns (like arming teachers or putting more officers in schools), they are promoting policies that will result in more gun deaths because people are human, will make mistakes, and those mistakes become deadly when a firearm is present. Upstate NY woman, 20, fatally shot after turning down wrong driveway Kansas City police probe shooting of Black teen who went to wrong house to pick up his younger brothers Video shows police at the wrong house before fatal shooting of homeowner in New Mexico hundreds of shootings across dem strongholds every night in this country. but its these ones (outliers) are being highlighted? Not one link to any of the others. Why? agenda? race? 1 hour ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Has nothing to do with what we were talking about... and we've talked about how you can lump certain ages to fit a narrative (like the 19 and under stat, instead of 18 and under). They parrot that line, but wont actually look at the details as most of them 19 year old's are bangers or banger victims. they just want the talking point, they refuse do do a damn thing about that issue that ravages their strongholds. Edited April 18, 2023 by Chris farley 1 1
Tiberius Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Has nothing to do with what we were talking about... and we've talked about how you can lump certain ages to fit a narrative (like the 19 and under stat, instead of 18 and under). All those young people killed by guns and you want to quibble over which dead young people count. Sickening! 1
ArdmoreRyno Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 Just now, Tiberius said: All those young people killed by guns and you want to quibble over which dead young people count. Sickening! Yea. If a 19 year old kid is selling meth/crack/etc. in the projects to down and out people, then get into a gun battle with rivals... yea. They aren't the same as a 12 year old who got shot at a school sitting in class. 1 1
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