BillStime Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, nedboy7 said: You forgot no guns at NRA rallies or GOP conversions bro. But the NY Governor didn't take away Irv's gun - and yet he is STILL crying like a spoiled brat. These law-abiding gun owners should be OUTRAGED that these bad apples are RUINING IT FOR EVERYONE. They SHOULD BE advocating for stricter rules that will have virtually little impact on the SPORT. That's what it is, right? I mean, who NEEDS to carry an AR-15 to Wegmans? But no - these idiots and red state governors continue to advocate and do the EXACT opposite - make it even F'N easier for ANYONE to get a gun. CLEARLY THERE ARE HOLES IN THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE IF THESE NUT JOBS CAN CONTINUE TO GET GUNS. AND IF THERE ARE NO HOLES LIKE THEY CLAIM - THEN TOO DAMN BAD - REGULATE THE F OUT OF THESE AR-15 TYPE WEAPONS. You want to play GI Joe with AR-15? Great - go to a secure location. Meanwhile, these freaks are focused on banning books (the irony) and crying about drag queens. jfc 2 1
BillStime Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 38 minutes ago, aristocrat said: The easy thing to do right now would be to create a federal school force. All schools have bullet proof glass, doors alarmed and locked and only opened by security, cameras, alarms, armed security etc. Do this so shooters know they can't get in and will be met with resistance immediately. Do this for as long as we see attempts at shootings stop. Yeah, more guns - that's the answer - MORE F'N GUNS. What's next? Bullet proof school busses? Bullet proof playgrounds? Bullet proof sporting facilities for football? LAX? Field hockey? Soccer? Tennis? Track? Cross Country? Are we going to place every kid in a bubble? OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO MAKE IT EXTREMELY HARD FOR SOMEONE TO GET A F'N GUN??? 1 1 1
nedboy7 Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: But the NY Governor didn't take away Irv's gun - and yet he is STILL crying like a spoiled brat. These law-abiding gun owners should be OUTRAGED that these bad apples are RUINING IT FOR EVERYONE. They SHOULD BE advocating for stricter rules that will have virtually little impact on the SPORT. That's what it is, right? I mean, who NEEDS to carry an AR-15 to Wegmans? But no - these idiots and red state governors continue to advocate and do the EXACT opposite - make it even F'N easier for ANYONE to get a gun. CLEARLY THERE ARE HOLES IN THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE IF THESE NUT JOBS CAN CONTINUE TO GET GUNS. AND IF THERE ARE NO HOLES LIKE THEY CLAIM - THEN TOO DAMN BAD - REGULATE THE F OUT OF THESE AR-15 TYPE WEAPONS. You want to play GI Joe with AR-15? Great - go to a secure location. Meanwhile, these freaks are focused on banning books (the irony) and crying about drag queens. jfc I am in the minority of liberal gun owners. I live in a rural setting and feel it is wise to be armed where I live. It was so ***** easy for me to buy a gun I cant imagine having an issue with it. But the idiot at the store did get his pea brain in a wad cause the back ground check took 50 mins. This in his eyes was the feds interfering in freedom. Same store I heard morons talking about a civil war. The gun culture is filled with really dense people. There is no denying this.
Wacka Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: the other… no guns mean no shooting ever again! Crazy people are societies fault and wouldn’t ever find alternatives to ways to do crazy things. No more guns ever ! Rand Paul's aide got seriously stabbed on the streets in DC in broad daylight the other day. Where is the knife ban. No one needs anything sharper than a butter knife! Edited March 29, 2023 by Wacka 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) So would banning transgenders from gun ownership be something everyone could agree to? Right dislike’s second amendment infringement but considering transgenderism typically to have associated mental disorder, so maybe ok with mental illness prohibiting gun ownership. Left dislikes physiological gender rigidity but likes incremental changes that lead to less gun proliferation and or possession and more oversight. a step in the right direction? Edited March 29, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood
Andy1 Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 32 minutes ago, Wacka said: Rand Paul's aide got seriously stabbed on the streets in DC in broad daylight the other day. Where is the knife ban. No one needs anything sharper than a butter knife! This reasoning ignores the probability of one dying due to the actions of another. Butter knifes are not used in mass killings. Knife laws are stupid and outdated. Why kill with a knife when anyone can get a gun? The discussion is about high powered assault weapons, where if you get shot, your probability of dying is much much greater than from other guns. They are designed for easy carrying and mass killing. We as a society need to decide if we are fine with losing our brothers, sisters, nieces and nephews to preserve the rights of assault weapon owners. Cops don’t want to face off a nut job with assault weapons either. You can’t harden everywhere. Psychos will find a crowd to kill. At minimum, there should be waiting periods and mental checks on buyers. Until then… thoughts and prayers and hope a nut doesn’t find you. 1 1
LeviF Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: So would banning transgenders from gun ownership be something everyone could agree to? Right dislike’s second amendment infringement but considering transgenderism typically to have associated mental disorder, so maybe ok with mental illness prohibiting gun ownership. Left dislikes physiological gender rigidity but likes incremental changes that lead to less gun proliferation and or possession and more oversight. a step in the right direction? This post is funny because as firm as I am on gun rights I was just thinking today that if “red flag” laws were used to get guns out of the hands of people with mental illness, as average people define “mental illness,” that wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. Of course, the problem is that bolsheviks have redefined mental illness to mean whatever they want, because their hooks and members are so deeply sunk into the various professional organizations that get to define mental illness for us plebs. It’s the same issue as anywhere else: pseudo-academics who were “educated” by ideologically insular institutions meddle with definitions so they can insert their politics into medicine. Edited March 30, 2023 by LeviF 1 1 1
K D Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, LeviF said: This post is funny because as firm as I am on gun rights I was just thinking today that if “red flag” laws were used to get guns out of the hands of people with mental illness, as average people define “mental illness,” that wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. Of course, the problem is that bolsheviks have redefined mental illness to mean whatever they want, because their hooks and members are so deeply sunk into the various professional organizations that get to define mental illness for us plebs. It’s the same issue as anywhere else: pseudo-academics who were “educated” by ideologically insular institutions meddle with definitions so they can insert their politics into medicine. It's enticing to say take away the guns from the mentally disturbed (they/thems). But then they will change the rules on normal folks and say if you are taking X medication then you can't own a gun or if you attended a political rally then you are a domestic terrorist etc. That gives up too much power and it's a slippery slope. Additionally, if you know they will take your guns you will be less likely to seek help for mental illness. And these people need all the help they can get! Edited March 30, 2023 by KDIGGZ 1 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: It's enticing to say take away the guns from the mentally disturbed (they/thems). But then they will change the rules on normal folks and say if you are taking X medication then you can't own a gun or if you attended a political rally then you are a domestic terrorist etc. That gives up too much power and it's a slippery slope. Additionally, if you know they will take your guns you will be less likely to seek help for mental illness. And these people need all the help they can get! Are the lives of 9 yo kids worth compromises? 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, nedboy7 said: I am in the minority of liberal gun owners. I live in a rural setting and feel it is wise to be armed where I live. It was so ***** easy for me to buy a gun I cant imagine having an issue with it. But the idiot at the store did get his pea brain in a wad cause the back ground check took 50 mins. This in his eyes was the feds interfering in freedom. Same store I heard morons talking about a civil war. The gun culture is filled with really dense people. There is no denying this. the difference is that you and I see our guns as tools. Many others see them as toys or worse, offensive weapons. Ya know, the guys who laugh when their kid or wife gets knocked over and bruised by recoil. It's true, it's not the gun but the person holding it. However, many holding it have very bad intentions or are fools. So we either figure out who they are and stop them from getting them or this continues. Maybe we can start with the verifiably insane. Edited March 30, 2023 by redtail hawk 1
Irv Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 15 hours ago, BillStime said: But did they take your gun away Irv? That’s what’s being proposed. You’ve heard dopey Biden say it a hundred times. 1
BillStime Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 Just now, Irv said: That’s what’s being proposed. You’ve heard dopey Biden say it a hundred times. Oh so the Governor didn’t take your gun away. Cry harder 1
Irv Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: Oh so the Governor didn’t take your gun away. Cry harder When did I say my guns were taken away? Quit changing the subject when I face you. Tired of dropping the mic on your sloppy ass. This is too easy. Shoulder getting sore. 2
K D Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 59 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Are the lives of 9 yo kids worth compromises? I own lots of guns and have never shot someone and hopefully will never. I also own lots of hammers and have never hit someone with one. A gun is a tool, it only does what you want it to do 1 1
BillStime Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Irv said: When did I say my guns were taken away? Quit changing the subject when I face you. Tired of dropping the mic on your sloppy ass. This is too easy. Shoulder getting sore. Still whining 17 minutes ago, Irv said: That’s what’s being proposed. You’ve heard dopey Biden say it a hundred times. What a mess 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: I own lots of guns and have never shot someone and hopefully will never. I also own lots of hammers and have never hit someone with one. A gun is a tool, it only does what you want it to do Were 3 9 yo's killed by an insane person with a gun this week? Edited March 30, 2023 by redtail hawk
Irv Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Still whining What a mess You’ve got nothing left. Face. 1
K D Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, redtail hawk said: Were 3 9 yo's killed by an insane person with a gun this week? Yes we need to get insane people off the streets. I agree. These people think they are multiple genders at the same time and the government and mainstream media wants us to think this is normal behavior. It's sad, these people need help 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 Just now, KDIGGZ said: Yes we need to get insane people off the streets. I agree. These people think they are multiple genders at the same time and the government and mainstream media wants us to think this is normal behavior. It's sad, these people need help so only trans people are insane?
Irv Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, nedboy7 said: You forgot no guns at NRA rallies or GOP conversions bro. he can’t have an honest discussion. He wants to be armed even during his colonoscopy cause the constitution talked about needing a well armed militia couple centuries ago. Why stop with the second amendment? Back then there was the Town Crier and the printing press. Everybody went to church. Times have changed. Nobody goes to church and we have the internet. We don’t need the first amendment. This is how demented losers like you think. What a mess. 7 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: so only trans people are insane? No. They identify as sane. So they’re sane. What a mess. Edited March 30, 2023 by Irv 1 1
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