ArdmoreRyno Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: I know your nihilistic stance on gun violence, hands winging, "nothing to be done." That's more than enough. I believe I've talked about what could be done AT LENGTH on here.... including a long reply to L Ron Burgundy on page 412. Did you skip that part and just go straight to the part where I talked about medications?
aristocrat Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: The ironic thing is that Irv Weinstein was widely felt to be a smart, good , decent man. Are you more worried about school shooters or nazis hiking the app trail? 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ArdmoreRyno said: 'll also say it again, we can protect our children but we have to finance the schools. Do that before we finance a proxy war in Ukraine. $30-50 billion could go to do what my school has done.... invest in real security cameras, safety glass at the door, double entry at the entrance (you have to be buzzed into the main lobby, then buzzed into the hall. Only the front office allows people in and they look at the camera first. Resource officers. Allow front office workers to carry/have access to firearms with the proper training. As a former member of the military and competitive shooter, I'd go through extra training by LEO to protect this school. Etc. etc. The loon in Nashville stated she went after her former school over another school because the LACK OF SECRUITY. If a school was allowed to arm itself, that deterrence is MASSIVE. No school that has armed staff has had a school shooting during school hours. Ever. you mean this part about making schools into vaults? and nothing about stopping crazy people or drug addicts or criminals from getting guns. Brilliant! So we all know your answer to the thread: More guns are better. Edited March 29, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, redtail hawk said: or could it be that our society is producing many crazy, sad people... ya know, like people that take 30 oxycontin a day? Are you against anti depressants? Church of Scientology perhaps? And of course, the only societal variable that has changed in the last 30 years is the number of psych med prescriptions... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States Welp. when said society is based on consumerism and victimhood being a commodity. people are way more medicated than before. and the correlation with medication/SSRI and violence is something worth looking into. especially when coming on or off it.
Irv Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: you're just so clever...and law abiding. Good for you! Dodge Challengers are dead give aways. People like you are all the same as long as it's not your rights that are being taken away. I'm victor not a victim. Keep being a sheep. What a mess. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Irv said: People like you are all the same as long as it's not your rights that are being taken away. I'm victor not a victim. Keep being a sheep. What a mess. Yes, no one's coming after my guns. Edited March 29, 2023 by redtail hawk
BillStime Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: More guns are better. We would be the SAFEST country on this planet if it were true. But it is not. 2 minutes ago, Irv said: it's not your rights that are being taken away. What rights have you lost? List them. 1
Irv Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, redtail hawk said: Yes, no ones coming after my guns. You're all in on taking away guns but piss your pants when the SCOTUS takes away your right to abort a baby up to the birth date. What a hypocrite. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Welp. when said society is based on consumerism and victimhood being a commodity. people are way more medicated than before. and the correlation with medication/SSRI and violence is something worth looking into. especially when coming on or off it. sure, ban SSRI's and this all goes away. Ban anti psychotics while were at it. Edited March 29, 2023 by redtail hawk
BillStime Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 23 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Okay... and how would you put that idea in place? There are laws in the books, in every state (they vary state-to-state) to do that. What constitutes someone who is a "psycho"? Honest question - are there any laws that could have prevented this tragedy in Nashville?
ChiGoose Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Welp. when said society is based on consumerism and victimhood being a commodity. people are way more medicated than before. and the correlation with medication/SSRI and violence is something worth looking into. especially when coming on or off it. US use of SSRI’s is comparable to Iceland Per Capita gun deaths Iceland: 0.07 USA: 12.21 While SSRI use is on the rise in rich countries, it doesn’t seem to correlate with gun deaths. 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: sure, ban SSRI's and this all goes away. Ban anti psychotics while were at it. Comprehension.... its worth looking into at no time meant ban or some similar strawman. and now of days one can just take a basic statistics class online. Its like I struck a nerve mentioning SSRI's. hmm Edited March 29, 2023 by Chris farley
gobills404 Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, ChiGoose said: US use of SSRI’s is comparable to Iceland Per Capita gun deaths Iceland: 0.07 USA: 12.21 While SSRI use is on the rise in rich countries, it doesn’t seem to correlate with gun deaths. I wonder what the difference could be between Iceland and the US when it comes to people committing gun violence 🤔 1 1
T master Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, redtail hawk said: Things that didn’t kill kids today: *Books. *Drag Queens. *Pronouns. *Statue of David you apparently see things in black and white (dualism). I see a spectrum. No dualism just plain black & white that's the things that are wrong today way to much grey area today . Apparently you are either to young or just don't care about history & to short sighted to see what this countries history tried to get away from & yet has become the same that it ran from . I won't say that i would rather live any where else because even with all of it's faults America is still the best country in the world !! That being said America has become Fat, Lazy and entitled the people feel just because we live here we should have to be given entitlements, reparations for things that happened in the past & not have to work for them any more and have lost their balls !! With all that then you throw in a bunch of politicians that try to make every one happy which you can't do & give them every thing they think they need welcome to present day America . A country with no consequences for anything which is a huge reason why there is so many that have shunned the bible & it's teaching because they want to live in a law less society to do what they want how they want when they want & do it by there rules & screw right or wrong . No those things didn't kill kids but the things you list can indoctrinate children to this anything goes mentality which sorry but black is black & white is white. If you as a ADULT person want to use pronouns go for it that's your prerogative, if you want to choose a different sexual life style go for it, If you as a "Adult" want to change your body go for it, but don't push your life style on me & mine i will raise my child & grand children to know things as they are intended what ever you believe how we became to be here & respect those that feel & believe differently until they PUSH or infringe their thoughts on me that's when i push back . My belief is you can take a standard bolt & with enough force make a metric nut work on that standard bolt & it will hold not as strong but it will, but that isn't the way it was meant to be in it's inception & there will be ramifications to forcing things such as that . It will not hold as strong, as long & will only have 1 use and then it's done it can;t be used over again where if it is used as intended it can be reused over & over again . But apparently common sense has no place today it's kind of like the thoughts of electric is best but charge them with diesel generators & use a machine that takes 1200 gallons of fuel per day to dig up the minerals needed to make the batteries welcome to the new world order ... 1
ChiGoose Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, gobills404 said: I wonder what the difference could be between Iceland and the US when it comes to people committing gun violence 🤔 I dunno, what do you think? 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 'm just trying to imagine all the barbed wire it would take to fortify school playgrounds. Barbed wire manufacturers stock might be "worth looking into". 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: 'm just trying to imagine all the barbed wire it would take to fortify school playgrounds. Barbed wire manufacturers stock might be "worth looking into". Welp. you live near DC. go look at any federal or important state building. 4 minutes ago, gobills404 said: I wonder what the difference could be between Iceland and the US when it comes to people committing gun violence 🤔 No clue, that country loves their guns. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, T master said: No dualism just plain black & white that's the things that are wrong today way to much grey area today . Apparently you are either to young or just don't care about history & to short sighted to see what this countries history tried to get away from & yet has become the same that it ran from . I won't say that i would rather live any where else because even with all of it's faults America is still the best country in the world !! That being said America has become Fat, Lazy and entitled the people feel just because we live here we should have to be given entitlements, reparations for things that happened in the past & not have to work for them any more and have lost their balls !! With all that then you throw in a bunch of politicians that try to make every one happy which you can't do & give them every thing they think they need welcome to present day America . A country with no consequences for anything which is a huge reason why there is so many that have shunned the bible & it's teaching because they want to live in a law less society to do what they want how they want when they want & do it by there rules & screw right or wrong . No those things didn't kill kids but the things you list can indoctrinate children to this anything goes mentality which sorry but black is black & white is white. If you as a ADULT person want to use pronouns go for it that's your prerogative, if you want to choose a different sexual life style go for it, If you as a "Adult" want to change your body go for it, but don't push your life style on me & mine i will raise my child & grand children to know things as they are intended what ever you believe how we became to be here & respect those that feel & believe differently until they PUSH or infringe their thoughts on me that's when i push back . My belief is you can take a standard bolt & with enough force make a metric nut work on that standard bolt & it will hold not as strong but it will, but that isn't the way it was meant to be in it's inception & there will be ramifications to forcing things such as that . It will not hold as strong, as long & will only have 1 use and then it's done it can;t be used over again where if it is used as intended it can be reused over & over again . But apparently common sense has no place today it's kind of like the thoughts of electric is best but charge them with diesel generators & use a machine that takes 1200 gallons of fuel per day to dig up the minerals needed to make the batteries welcome to the new world order ... uh huh? 1
Boatdrinks Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 15 hours ago, DrW said: This seems a fair evaluation. However, one question remains: How did all the other countries shown on the graph avoid this "cultural and societal decay"? Or, at least, how did they avoid the dire consequences we experience in the US? That is a question that many wish to avoid . What is the racial breakdown of acts of gun violence in the US ? Scandinavian countries are often cited when examining gun violence in other nations. What is the racial breakdown of those countries populations ? The reality is that most gun violence in the USA is committed by those of certain racial background. These tend to be the result of a criminal element ( drug dealing , gangs etc) and a culture that celebrates violence . Unlike high profile mass shootings that often involve extreme mental illness. We need to look at the cultural differences in those countries , family structure , education etc. This is a cultural problem, as people aren’t inclined to shoot each other as a natural trait from birth. To say those other countries “ avoided “ a certain subculture is to imply that it’s somehow inevitable. I don’t believe it is. 18 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: US use of SSRI’s is comparable to Iceland Per Capita gun deaths Iceland: 0.07 USA: 12.21 While SSRI use is on the rise in rich countries, it doesn’t seem to correlate with gun deaths. What is the racial breakdown of the shooters in said gun deaths ? Therein lies the answer some wish to avoid .
Tommy Callahan Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, Boatdrinks said: That is a question that many wish to avoid . What is the racial breakdown of acts of gun violence in the US ? Scandinavian countries are often cited when examining gun violence in other nations. What is the racial breakdown of those countries populations ? The reality is that most gun violence in the USA is committed by those of certain racial background. These tend to be the result of a criminal element ( drug dealing , gangs etc) and a culture that celebrates violence . Unlike high profile mass shootings that often involve extreme mental illness. We need to look at the cultural differences in those countries , family structure , education etc. This is a cultural problem, as people aren’t inclined to shoot each other as a natural trait from birth. To say those other countries “ avoided “ a certain subculture is to imply that it’s somehow inevitable. I don’t believe it is. you know that opinion will not be allowed. its full of micro aggressions and what not. 1
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