SoCal Deek Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: 8 days a week... Not my favorite, but still a great early Beatles song. 👍 1 1
ChiGoose Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 45 minutes ago, Chris farley said: I would love to grasp the logistic details, of the people that think they can just remove guns from the population. Like reality vs Ideology I think that’s the position of a small minority. Most politicians and leaders I’ve seen on this issue are advocating laws around future purchases and any “confiscation” of guns would actually just be voluntary buybacks. Remember that the Dems had a trifecta, including a filibuster proof majority in the senate in 2008. If they wanted to take people’s guns, that would have been the time to try it. Instead, they blew all of their political capital on trying to get people healthcare. 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Not my favorite, but still a great early Beatles song. 👍 I’m a big Rocky Raccoon guy myself 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, ChiGoose said: I think that’s the position of a small minority. Most politicians and leaders I’ve seen on this issue are advocating laws around future purchases and any “confiscation” of guns would actually just be voluntary buybacks. Remember that the Dems had a trifecta, including a filibuster proof majority in the senate in 2008. If they wanted to take people’s guns, that would have been the time to try it. Instead, they blew all of their political capital on trying to get people healthcare. They spent the capital allowing the industry to codify a very profitable system. that kinda missed the mark. And the people that dont sell them back? The criminals that are not even in that formula. and commit most of the gun crime? https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
SoCal Deek Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 I cannot believe you guys are yapping back and forth about guns or no guns for hours on end. The story behind this particular shooting is NOT the guns used. That’s not the distinguishing characteristic. The story is that a trans person wrote a murder/suicide letter and proceeded to carry it out. What’s happening here? Carry on. 1 1 1 1
Big Blitz Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: and the truth emerges from the septic tank. who is going to buy you ammo, the koch's? civil war is bad for business. 8 days a week. Lol lol…….. I mean who would think this country could ever experience a Civil War?? Or that it would be bad for business. How asinine. Edited March 29, 2023 by Big Blitz 1 1
BillStime Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: “Hardly no one supports banning guns.” I have more. Y’all revealed yourselves the last few years on everything post Covid Oh, I'm not shy about my position on guns. Proud of it.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I cannot believe you guys are yapping back and forth about guns or no guns for hours on end. The story behind this particular shooting is NOT the guns used. That’s not the distinguishing characteristic. The story is that a trans person wrote a murder/suicide letter and proceeded to carry it out. What’s happening here? Carry on. Nope. The story is that a crazy person receiving psychiatric care was able to buy multiple guns from multiple gun shops in a backward state with almost no restrictions on guns. Edited March 29, 2023 by redtail hawk 1
T master Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 9 hours ago, redtail hawk said: they gotta have a villain to rail against Chi...here it's just you , me, Tibs, Billsy and a few others. But we're up to it. They got nothin but fox talking points. And Fox is gonna lose gazillions for lying thru their teeth or their a$$holes. Meanwhile, Murdoch and trump aren't the best of friends. At least for now. If the cash flow changes, so will they both...Integrity! Wow is it any surprise that all the country's on the graph are socialist countries ?? You know if you go there you can have "Free Health care" Gov't housing, and all you want as long as you do what your told & believe what they tell you & give up more than half your earnings to support them . So if the grass is greener why aren't you there ?? Just wondering . 1 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, T master said: Wow is it any surprise that all the country's on the graph are socialist countries ?? You know if you go there you can have "Free Health care" Gov't housing, and all you want as long as you do what your told & believe what they tell you & give up more than half your earnings to support them . So if the grass is greener why aren't you there ?? Just wondering . Asked and answered. I like it here. Vacationing there is nice tho. We can do better.
Big Blitz Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 Folks, mankind - sorry, Humankind did it. We corrected and got right all the silly reasons that required a Bill of Rights. There are no more Hitler-Mao-Stalin like threats in the world and never will be. Crime has ended. You don’t need to protect yourself. There is no need for a police force - you know the people you call that show up with guns for some ridiculous reason. You don’t need those anymore anyway. You’re safe. Everywhere. But if not, call 9-11 they will be there shortly. You’ll be safe in the meantime. But crime has ended anyway and humans now love each other and there is no threat. You don’t see Congressmen - sorry, persons, calling for Civil War. You don’t see any violent protests in your city streets or on your property or at our nation’s capital. And, you don’t see any hint of meltdown in our collective mental health 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, redtail hawk said: Nope. The story is that a crazy person receiving psychiatric was able to buy multiple guns from multiple gun shops in a backward state with almost no restrictions on guns. lol when people say guns are unregulated. imagine if the NICS check/FBI could actually pull peoples medical/mental health records. then you get into HiPAA. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chris farley said: lol when people say guns are unregulated. imagine if the NICS check/FBI could actually pull peoples medical/mental health records. then you get into HiPAA. HIPAA doesn't apply when violence is a probable outcome. https://thehipaaetool.com/hipaa-and-gun-violence-prevention/ Edited March 29, 2023 by redtail hawk 2
Tommy Callahan Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, T master said: Wow is it any surprise that all the country's on the graph are socialist countries ?? You know if you go there you can have "Free Health care" Gov't housing, and all you want as long as you do what your told & believe what they tell you & give up more than half your earnings to support them . So if the grass is greener why aren't you there ?? Just wondering . Thats a hell of a crew of misinformation spreaders. 1
ArdmoreRyno Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 2 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Even if it's the 2nd or 3rd leading killer shouldn't we want to fix that lol? Cmon literally you make no point. A politician twisted a statistic?!! Please call out the hundreds of Republicans that will twist stats today and every time these shootings occur. How do you fix evil? We have tens of thousands of gun laws on the books today in the United States. None of them stop someone who is determined to do harm to others. I continue to say it, Nice France.... a lunatic with a truck killed nearly 90 people and injured over 400. Evil found a way. 2016 in Sagamihara, Japan. Evil managed to kill nearly 20 people and injured another 25. Evil found a way. Criminals aren't going to register their firearms or go to a FFL to do a background check when they get a stolen gun off from a fellow gang member. 99% of gun owners aren't going to ever commit a criminal act with that firearm. Studies have shown that licensed conceal carry folk are even less likely to commit a violent crime than police officers. You can't punish someone like me, who served this country, because of a crazy 28 year old trans kid from Nashville. I'll also say it again, we can protect our children but we have to finance the schools. Do that before we finance a proxy war in Ukraine. $30-50 billion could go to do what my school has done.... invest in real security cameras, safety glass at the door, double entry at the entrance (you have to be buzzed into the main lobby, then buzzed into the hall. Only the front office allows people in and they look at the camera first. Resource officers. Allow front office workers to carry/have access to firearms with the proper training. As a former member of the military and competitive shooter, I'd go through extra training by LEO to protect this school. Etc. etc. The loon in Nashville stated she went after her former school over another school because the LACK OF SECRUITY. If a school was allowed to arm itself, that deterrence is MASSIVE. No school that has armed staff has had a school shooting during school hours. Ever. If you look at the past 20-30 years, the span that school shootings and even "mass" shootings have increased, so has the amount of psychotropic medications prescribed. We lead the WORLD in psychotropic medication used... anti-depressants, ADHD meds, etc. That number has spiked drastically over the past 20-30 years. Same span that we've seen these shootings occur. Coincidence? 1
SoCal Deek Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Nope. The story is that a crazy person receiving psychiatric care was able to buy multiple guns from multiple gun shops in a backward state with almost no restrictions on guns. Sure it is Hawk. Ignore the obvious elephant in the room. And just who was this person receiving psychiatric care? Hmmmmm? 6 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Nope. The story is that a crazy person receiving psychiatric care was able to buy multiple guns from multiple gun shops in a backward state with almost no restrictions on guns. Sure it is Hawk. Ignore the obvious elephant in the room. And just who was this person receiving psychiatric care? Hmmmmm? 6 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Nope. The story is that a crazy person receiving psychiatric care was able to buy multiple guns from multiple gun shops in a backward state with almost no restrictions on guns. Sure it is Hawk. Ignore the obvious elephant in the room. And just who was this person receiving psychiatric care? Hmmmmm? Sorry….I have no idea why it repeated my post three times. 1 1
Buffarukus Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, redtail hawk said: That alone doesn't fix it when parents teach kids to blast shotguns from the hip and laugh when their spouse falls from the recoil of a double barrel 12 gauge load of buck shot. Other than that, I agree. its a two tier system. people need to have a serious change in respect for what a fire arm is and what it is ultimately capable of inflicting on people. im just as tired of the parent leaving loaded guns by their bedside "accident" stories as i am of the criminal murder who was previously caught illegal carrying out on some bond or parole for the umpteenth time having another opportunity. if im asking for harsher sentances so people are petrified to carry guns illegally then i also have to be for negligence charges for those who legally own guns but are not responsible with that right and a system with huge cracks that allow mentally unstable to aquire them. both sides shovel responsible legal owners into the conversation they shouldn't be. Edited March 29, 2023 by Buffarukus 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Sure it is Hawk. Ignore the obvious elephant in the room. And just who was this person receiving psychiatric care? Hmmmmm? Sure it is Hawk. Ignore the obvious elephant in the room. And just who was this person receiving psychiatric care? Hmmmmm? Sure it is Hawk. Ignore the obvious elephant in the room. And just who was this person receiving psychiatric care? Hmmmmm? F'in nuts is F'in nuts F'in nuts is F'in nuts F'in nuts is F'in nuts
Tommy Callahan Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 Serial killers were an American thing, like mass shootings are lately. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: If you look at the past 20-30 years, the span that school shootings and even "mass" shootings have increased, so has the amount of psychotropic medications prescribed. We lead the WORLD in psychotropic medication used... anti-depressants, ADHD meds, etc. That number has spiked drastically over the past 20-30 years. Same span that we've seen these shootings occur. Coincidence? or could it be that our society is producing many crazy, sad people... ya know, like people that take 30 oxycontin a day? Are you against anti depressants? Church of Scientology perhaps? And of course, the only societal variable that has changed in the last 30 years is the number of psych med prescriptions... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States Edited March 29, 2023 by redtail hawk
T master Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Asked and answered. I like it here. Vacationing there is nice tho. We can do better. Yah the only thing wrong is your trying to change the US into a socialist country . Some Californians & NYers do that they hate the high taxes & the laws there & move to states like Fl. & Tenn. then vote for those that believe the way the politicians did where they came from& eventually the things they try to get away from are where they are living now . Hey that's almost like when the pilgrims came to America to get away from the over taxing that the King was doing in England & to get away from the central banking system that were screwing people over in that country but look at the US today it's exactly the same or worse but that's okay because we get "FREE STUFF" !!! 1
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