What is better, no guns, or more guns?

[Big Blitz]

Easy to compromise/recruit.  
 

Mental health professionals create a patient for 60 plus years with every moron parent of a 6 year old that brings them in to discuss a possible “transition” or whatever this person is. 
 

Genius, trash professionals also compromised by CCP Woke trash.   

 

 

Well if not recruited, the girls are losing their minds now.  
 

What a country.  
 

Ban the guns tho.   

Edited March 27, 2023 by Big Blitz

[Roundybout]

32 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

No , they were killed by a crazed woman ( we think anyway) intent on killing someone that was able to access a building that (s)he shouldn’t have been. The weapon used changes nothing. 

Think she would have had an easier time using a knife, slingshot, etc?

[ChiGoose]

If the problem isn’t the guns, why do we have such a higher rate of gun deaths than our peer nations?

 

If you start controlling for variables, the answer is obvious: it’s the guns. 

[aristocrat]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Think she would have had an easier time using a knife, slingshot, etc?

 

Well, being trans was removed from being listed as a mental illness a few years back. Having a mental illness would have been a disqualification for buying the rifles. 

[Boatdrinks]

8 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Think she would have had an easier time using a knife, slingshot, etc?

No. However , banning all guns is simply not going to happen - nor should it. 

[Roundybout]

8 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

If the problem isn’t the guns, why do we have such a higher rate of gun deaths than our peer nations?

 

If you start controlling for variables, the answer is obvious: it’s the guns. 

No no, it’s *insert 8000 other excuses here*

[Boatdrinks]

6 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

If the problem isn’t the guns, why do we have such a higher rate of gun deaths than our peer nations?

 

If you start controlling for variables, the answer is obvious: it’s the guns. 

Doesn’t equal causation. The variables are cultural. Also explains the reason for the breakdowns of who is involved / responsible for “ most” shootings. The presence of a gun does nothing on its own. The constitutional right shall not be infringed. People much smarter than you - and me - decided this. 

[ChiGoose]

Conservative explanations for US gun violence:

- Mental illness (but don’t you dare spend $1 to help people with mental illness)

-Doors

-The gays

- Not enough guns

-The progressive prosecutor movement that began well after the gun violence epidemic began (time traveling progressive prosecutors?)

- Not enough guns

- Barack Obama

- Americans are inferior people who like killing 

- Single parent families

- decline of religion

- Abortions

- Cities

- Not enough guns

- Joe Biden

- Literally anything that can be linked to a Democrat, no matter how dumb

-People being mean about cops 

- Teachers not having guns

What the rest of the world, researchers, scientists, and literally everyone else who understands basic root cause analysis clearly sees as the obvious reason:

- Easy access to guns

Edited March 27, 2023 by ChiGoose

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

No no, it’s *insert 8000 other excuses here*

The excuses are those provided for criminals and their actions , not the Constitution. 

[Roundybout]

6 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

No. However , banning all guns is simply not going to happen - nor should it. 

Well something has to give, mate. Dead 9 year olds are starting to leave a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. 

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Conservative explanations for US gun violence:

- Mental illness (but don’t you dare spend $1 to help people with mental illness)

-Doors

-The gays

- Not enough guns

-The progressive prosecutor movement that began well after the gun violence epidemic began (time traveling progressive prosecutors?)

- Not enough guns

- Barack Obama

- Americans are inferior people who like killing 

- Single parent families

- decline of religion

- Abortions

- Cities

- Not enough guns

- Joe Biden

- Literally anything that can be linked to a Democrat, no matter how dumb

-People being mean about cops 

- Teachers not having guns

What the rest of the world, researchers, scientists, and literally everyone else who understands basic root cause analysis clearly sees as the obvious reason:

- Easy access to guns

So killers just become great people then , if not for the 2nd Amendment ? Sounds like a LOT of excuses for awful people. 

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Well something has to give, mate. Dead 9 year olds are starting to leave a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. 

Nothing has to give if a pile of children’s corpses doesn’t bother you. 

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

So killers just become great people then , if not for the 2nd Amendment ? Sounds like a LOT of excuses for awful people. 

There is absolute zero point in discussion potential solutions to the gun violence problem with people who cannot understand basic facts about why we have one. 
 

Some people just find it easier to let kids die than to accept reality. 

[Boatdrinks]

3 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Well something has to give, mate. Dead 9 year olds are starting to leave a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. 

Secure the buildings ( seems it wasn’t or there was a breach) Armed Officer at the door etc. I’ll agree there’s nothing palatable about this. One thing that shouldn’t give is individual rights. Makes for a complex issue. 

[ChiGoose]

1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:

Secure the buildings ( seems it wasn’t or there was a breach) Armed Officer at the door etc. I’ll agree there’s nothing palatable about this. One thing that shouldn’t give is individual rights. Makes for a complex issue. 

The individual right to own a gun has been a long recognized Constitutional right dating back to… 2008.

[BillStime]

3 hours ago, aristocrat said:

Anything to help stop school shootings right?

 

 

[BillStime]

🎯

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

Looks like the shooter has been identified as Transgender … first I’ve seen it confirmed. Anyway, this shooter is actually a man. Falls in line with a lot of other shootings now. 

[BillStime]

4 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Security failure here for sure.

 

What will your excuse be when this happens in Arkansas?

 

 

 

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

31 minutes ago, BillStime said:

🎯

 

 

So sadly true.   And morons will fixate on absurd social issues rather than dealing with our gun problem.  Just put a line in the sand for what guns are too dangerous for the public.  That will at least be a positive start.

[ChiGoose]

11 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

So sadly true.   And morons will fixate on absurd social issues rather than dealing with our gun problem.  Just put a line in the sand for what guns are too dangerous for the public.  That will at least be a positive start.

There are different things we could do to start reducing gun deaths without preventing law abiding citizens from having guns. 
 

But there’s no point in discussing possible solutions to a problem that half the people here don’t seem to believe actually exists.

 

Apparently some people are perfectly content with dead kids so long as they aren’t mildly inconvenienced. Weird coming from the “protect kids from the gay penguin book” crowd.