What is better, no guns, or more guns?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

25 minutes ago, Irv said:

Demented Biden cracking jokes and politicizing the whole thing.  We need a real leader.  Not some *****-for-brains.   What a mess.  

Because it 'political.  Other countries have found reasonable compromises that allow guns for hunting and recreation but not designed specifically for killing people

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

Because it 'political.  Other countries have found reasonable compromises that allow guns for hunting and recreation but not designed specifically for killing people

A gun that can be used for hunting can kill people. We don’t even know that this shooter couldn’t have carried out todays bloodbath with just a handgun or two. 

[ArdmoreRyno]

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

Fine, don’t take the guns away. Bare minimum should be red flag laws where the SECOND someone reports you for obvious mental issues, all your guns go bye-bye for good. 

Please explain how the public education system created this?

 

Huh? Your ex-wife reports you because she hates you so she says you have some type of "mental issue"... your 2A rights should disappear forever? LOL

 

I'm a mental health counselor and I can tell you, you CAN lose your gun rights if you have 'certain' mental diagnosis or have been inpatient for certain reasons. You should NOT lose  your gun rights for being just having a mental disorder. There are certain criteria involved and each state is different. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

15 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

A gun that can be used for hunting can kill people. We don’t even know that this shooter couldn’t have carried out todays bloodbath with just a handgun or two. 

Of course they can but they're not nearly as effective at killing large numbers of people which assault rifles do all too well.

9 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Huh? Your ex-wife reports you because she hates you so she says you have some type of "mental issue"... your 2A rights should disappear forever? LOL

 

I'm a mental health counselor and I can tell you, you CAN lose your gun rights if you have 'certain' mental diagnosis or have been inpatient for certain reasons. You should NOT lose  your gun rights for being just having a mental disorder. There are certain criteria involved and each state is different. 

In your state, what dx's qualify for a person losing his/her gun rights?

Edited March 27, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

Of course they can but they're not nearly as effective at killing large numbers of people which assault rifles do all too well.

I believe  “ assault rifle” is an invented term that sounds menacing but has little basis in fact. I’m no gun expert but I’m sure there are others who can chime in. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I believe  “ assault rifle” is an invented term that sounds menacing but has little basis in fact. I’m no gun expert but I’m sure there are others who can chime in. 

AR=assault rifle.

 

but sure, dive deep into semi vs automatic AR like the gun lobby propaganda does.

Edited March 27, 2023 by redtail hawk

[aristocrat]

 

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

AR=assault rifle.

 

lol come on you cant possibly be that dumb?  are you putting on an act?

[Boatdrinks]

7 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

AR=assault rifle.

Again , consult a gun expert. There is nothing distinguishing about the weapon from many others , that is my point. It’s a broad term without specificity and that is usually the hang up in any potential legislation. It’s far too broad. 

Edited March 27, 2023 by Boatdrinks

[aristocrat]

9 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

AR=assault rifle.

 

but sure, dive deep into semi vs automatic AR like the gun lobby propaganda does.

ArmaLite rifle is what it stands for. how are you this ignorant?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Again , consult a gun expert. There is nothing distinguishing about the weapon from many others , that is my point. It’s a broad term without specificity and that is usually the hang up in any potential legislation. It’s far too broad. 

They can easily be defined in legislation.

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

ArmaLite rifle is what it stands for. how are you this ignorant?

Oh sorry, three small children were killed by an ARMALITE rifle, my bad, makes a huge difference 🙄

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, redtail hawk said:

They can easily be defined in legislation.

But yet they never are.. it’s a catch all that could be most guns. That’s a non starter for obvious reasons. 

[Roundybout]

24 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Huh? Your ex-wife reports you because she hates you so she says you have some type of "mental issue"... your 2A rights should disappear forever? LOL

 

I'm a mental health counselor and I can tell you, you CAN lose your gun rights if you have 'certain' mental diagnosis or have been inpatient for certain reasons. You should NOT lose  your gun rights for being just having a mental disorder. There are certain criteria involved and each state is different. 

You can have them back after you are proven to be sane. No nonsense. 

[aristocrat]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

Oh sorry, three small children were killed by an ARMALITE rifle, my bad, makes a huge difference 🙄

 

so you support sharing misinformation now?

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, Roundybout said:

Oh sorry, three small children were killed by an ARMALITE rifle, my bad, makes a huge difference 🙄

No , they were killed by a crazed woman ( we think anyway) intent on killing someone that was able to access a building that (s)he shouldn’t have been. The weapon used changes nothing. 

[BillStime]

14 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

so you support sharing misinformation now?

You do - just two hours ago - in this very thread 

[aristocrat]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

You do - just two hours ago - in this very thread 

 

Your post shows that specific bill wasn't passed. It was a completely different bill passed. Parts of the one i mentioned were in it. 

[mead107]

Glad the women got killed.  
should be a death sentence for anyone that uses a weapon to kill people. 
some killers get out of prison in 15 years. 
the person they killed never gets to come out of the grave. 
you shoot some one or stab someone then 25 years in prison. If they survive 
No Electric devices no exercise area no getting out of the cell. 
 

no bail 

Edited March 27, 2023 by mead107

[Tommy Callahan]

26 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

They can easily be defined in legislation.

What's that, a firearm. 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

 

Your post shows that specific bill wasn't passed. It was a completely different bill passed. Parts of the one i mentioned were in it. 

It was PART of a BIGGER bill 

 

Take the L