Boatdrinks Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: 100% correlated to crime and poverty. We all know this... I’d also guarantee the areas in those states with high murder rates aren’t exactly Republican strongholds. Probably not majority Caucasian either. 1
ArdmoreRyno Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: I’d also guarantee the areas in those states with high murder rates aren’t exactly Republican strongholds. Probably not majority Caucasian either. No, but we can't talk about that. Apparently. Just now, SoCal Deek said: Uninsured drivers? 😂😂😂😂 "Honey, we ARE NOT moving to Oxford, Mississippi!!! Do you know how many uninsured drivers there are in Mississippi?!?!?"
SoCal Deek Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: No, but we can't talk about that. Apparently. "Honey, we ARE NOT moving to Oxford, Mississippi!!! Do you know how many uninsured drivers there are in Mississippi?!?!?" My favorite was throwing in the homeless. I thought the Left loved homeless folks. Now they apparently make a place dangerous? How so?
Boatdrinks Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: My favorite was throwing in the homeless. I thought the Left loved homeless folks. Now they apparently make a place dangerous? How so? It’s probably some lefty-type thinking. Something like homeless people are in an unsafe situation so more homeless = unsafe. 1
Tiberius Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 34 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: 100% correlated to crime and poverty. We all know this... Lack of health care/insurance makes the poor, poorer I wonder if that lack of health insurance is a contributing factor of opioid crisis in red states
B-Man Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 Paul Krugman jumps on the bogus 'red state murder problem' bandwagon FTA: It may not appear so, but I think this paragraph was very carefully crafted. The crime surge was real but “the perception that it was all about big cities run by Democrats is false.” And that’s true of course. It wasn’t all about big blue cities but it was largely about big blue cities. His first link about the purple crime wave goes to an argument put forward by Democratic group Third Way back in March. They titled it “The Red State Murder Problem” and it was carefully designed to shift the framing of the crime problem in a way more favorable to Democrats. Here’s a bit of it: If you’re tuned in to the media, you’d think murder is rocketing skyward in New York, California, Illinois. But those states don’t even crack the top ten. In fact, the top per capita murder rate states in 2020 were mostly those far from massive urban centers and Democratic mayors and governors. Eight of the top ten worst murder rate states voted for Trump in 2020. None of those eight has supported a Democrat for president since 1996. The chart below shows the top 10 murder rate states in 2020. Mississippi had the highest homicide rate at 20.50 murders per 100,000 residents, followed by Louisiana at 15.79, Kentucky at 14.32, Alabama at 14.2, and Missouri at 14. The national average was 6.5 per 100,000 residents, but the top five states had rates more than twice that high. All of that is true but also very intentionally misleading. By focusing on states and which candidate they voted for, Third Way manages to obscure where most of the increased violence is actually happening. Marc Thiessen wrote about this last week: In most of these red states, the high murder rates are driven by the lethal violence in their blue cities. Take Missouri. Yes, it voted for Trump. But it is also home to two of the most dangerous U.S. cities — St. Louis and Kansas City — both of which are run by Democrats. Earlier this year, CBS News did an analysis of the “deadliest U.S. cities” using the latest FBI and other crime data. In 2019, it found, St. Louis had the highest murder rate in the nation, with 64.54 murders per 100,000 residents. Kansas City, meanwhile, had the eighth-highest murder rate, with 29.88 murders per 100,000. According to the FBI, the state had about 520 murders in major metropolitan areas that year, 20 in cities outside metropolitan areas, and 28 in nonmetropolitan counties. So, the vast majority of Missouri’s homicides took place in its Democrat-run cities. The same is true for Louisiana, which has two of the most lethal Democratic-run cities in the country: Baton Rouge, which in 2019 had the sixth-highest murder rate in the nation with 31.72 murders per 100,000 residents, and New Orleans, which had the seventh-highest rate with 30.67 murders per 100,000. Without those cities, the state’s murder rate would significantly drop. That’s not all. Tennessee’s homicide rate was driven up by Democratic-run Memphis, which ranked ninth in the country with 29.21 homicides per 100,000 residents. Also powering the state’s murder rate: then-Democratic-led Chattanooga (No. 29) with 18.15 murders per 100,000 in 2019 (note: the city elected an independent in 2021); Democratic-run Nashville (No. 59) with 12.08 per 100,000; and Democratic-run Knoxville (No. 62) with 11.66 per 100,000. https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2022/10/25/paul-krugman-jumps-on-the-bogus-red-state-murder-problem-bandwagon-n505698 1
ArdmoreRyno Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 26 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Lack of health care/insurance makes the poor, poorer I wonder if that lack of health insurance is a contributing factor of opioid crisis in red states Every state has "State Medicaid"... FREE. Saying it's because of health insurance... I'm going to assume you're trolling.
Tiberius Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Every state has "State Medicaid"... FREE. Saying it's because of health insurance... I'm going to assume you're trolling. No, many states did not expand medicaid under Obamacare This map shows the states that simply refused to allow their poor citizens to get the expansion. It matches pretty well with the massive drug problem rotting the core out of those red states out https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/status-of-state-medicaid-expansion-decisions-interactive-map/
ArdmoreRyno Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 Just now, Tiberius said: No, many states did not expand medicaid under Obamacare This map shows the states that simply refused to allow their poor citizens to get the expansion. It matches pretty well with the massive drug problem rotting the core out of those red states out https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/status-of-state-medicaid-expansion-decisions-interactive-map/ I know this, Oklahoma was one of them. Still, you can get Medicaid here and it covers EVERYTHING. I am a SoonerCare (OK Medicaid) provider, my father is one as well.
Tiberius Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: I know this, Oklahoma was one of them. Still, you can get Medicaid here and it covers EVERYTHING. I am a SoonerCare (OK Medicaid) provider, my father is one as well. I knew there had to be a connection. Quote Reporting from Washington — Even as the heroin and prescription opioid crisis deepens nationally, thousands of poor patients with addiction cannot get treatment in states where political leaders have opposed the Affordable Care Act. https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-opioids-obamacare-20160613-snap-story.html Quote Those patients are languishing on waiting lists for recovery programs or unable to get medicine to combat addiction because they can’t afford prescriptions, according to health officials nationwide. Poor adults in states that expanded Medicaid through the health law have access to medical insurance and a way to pay for addiction treatment. But 19 states, all with Republican governors or legislatures, have rejected federal aid to expand Medicaid eligibility, essentially making coverage available only to poor children, pregnant women and seniors.
ArdmoreRyno Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I knew there had to be a connection. https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-opioids-obamacare-20160613-snap-story.html Not sure what to say. All I know, in the state I live in... people get methadone and suboxone FREE. There are clinics in virtually every area of Oklahoma. Doctors can give a $1800/per shot medication (Abilify) to SoonerCare patients... FREE to the patient. Oklahoma is a "poor" state, but we are providing for those who struggle economically, in the health field. Kids get free braces. Kids and adults get free mental health services, both in and outpatient. Kids and adults get free glasses. Medicaid patients get free medical services, both in a doctors office AND hospitals. 10% of our population also get free healthcare with the Tribes. My girls (as well as my fiancé) are Chickasaw, they have both Blue Cross Blue Shield, plus free medical/dental/mental health/vision via the Chickasaw Nation.
Tiberius Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Not sure what to say. All I know, in the state I live in... people get methadone and suboxone FREE. There are clinics in virtually every area of Oklahoma. Doctors can give a $1800/per shot medication (Abilify) to SoonerCare patients... FREE to the patient. Oklahoma is a "poor" state, but we are providing for those who struggle economically, in the health field. Kids get free braces. Kids and adults get free mental health services, both in and outpatient. Kids and adults get free glasses. Medicaid patients get free medical services, both in a doctors office AND hospitals. 10% of our population also get free healthcare with the Tribes. My girls (as well as my fiancé) are Chickasaw, they have both Blue Cross Blue Shield, plus free medical/dental/mental health/vision via the Chickasaw Nation. Looks like Oklahoma did expand medicaide by voter approval. So hopefully that will help with the problem
ArdmoreRyno Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Looks like Oklahoma did expand medicaide by voter approval. So hopefully that will help with the problem We've had the same thing available for as long as I can remember. My dad, for example, was the first to offer SoonerCare braces in Oklahoma back around 2000. I believe the expansion bumped what the providers make. Slightly.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: I’d also guarantee the areas in those states with high murder rates aren’t exactly Republican strongholds. Probably not majority Caucasian either. In this particular topic, it’s not a state level item. It’s a municipal problem…. How many of these high murder rate cities are not firmly blue? There has to be some
Tiberius Posted October 26, 2022 Posted October 26, 2022 35 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: We've had the same thing available for as long as I can remember. My dad, for example, was the first to offer SoonerCare braces in Oklahoma back around 2000. I believe the expansion bumped what the providers make. Slightly. Must be something else then.
B-Man Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 Democrat Tim Ryan. Tim Ryan goes to a gun range to show he’s one of the common folk and yikes … just watch https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp-313137/2022/11/05/tim-ryan-goes-to-a-gun-range-to-show-hes-one-of-the-common-folk-and-yikes-just-watch/ 1 1
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