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16 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

This is what I told him up thread:

 

If you want to call it that. My guess would be some disease like syphilis but I don't think it's contagious between species. 

 

He responded that he used penicillin to cure himself.

 

 

Was the goat cured?

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Huge overflow crowd assembles at Virginia Beach council meeting over gun sanctuary status

 

Unlike sanctuary cities for illegals, the Washington Post considers the movement propelling Second Amendment sanctuaries a fad and “mainly symbolic.” That only proves further how out-of-touch mainstream outlets like the Washington Post are — more and more municipalities are declaring themselves gun sanctuaries, especially in Virginia, where Gov. Ralph “Coonman” Northam and a majority Democrat legislature have made noises about gun confiscation.

 

The action Monday night was in Virginia Beach, and a video screen had to be set up outside for the huge overflow crowd. Nearly a hundred citizens had signed up to give three-minute statements.

 

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12 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

Gun thugs looking to intimidate the democratic process 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, B-Man said:

Huge overflow crowd assembles at Virginia Beach council meeting over gun sanctuary status

 

Unlike sanctuary cities for illegals, the Washington Post considers the movement propelling Second Amendment sanctuaries a fad and “mainly symbolic.” That only proves further how out-of-touch mainstream outlets like the Washington Post are — more and more municipalities are declaring themselves gun sanctuaries, especially in Virginia, where Gov. Ralph “Coonman” Northam and a majority Democrat legislature have made noises about gun confiscation.

 

The action Monday night was in Virginia Beach, and a video screen had to be set up outside for the huge overflow crowd. Nearly a hundred citizens had signed up to give three-minute statements.

 

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Ya, you know as well as I do this is just going to be Charlottesville all over again with the fig leaf of a gun rights cover. Trying to turn this into a women's rights thing, oh brother 

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59 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Ya, you know as well as I do this is just going to be Charlottesville all over again with the fig leaf of a gun rights cover. Trying to turn this into a women's rights thing, oh brother 

 

The right to armed resistance to tyranny is one of the few natural rights we actually have.  The fact that these folks haven't resorted to armed resistance yet is a sign that they still believe in the process that bad actors are abusing in an attempt to curtail that right.  Be happy!

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Hot Mic Catches Two Virginia Democrats Scheming to Ignore Speeches by 'Mixed Up Little Kid' 'Gun Guys'

 

When Virginia went blue in 2018 with the help of Obama "wingman" Eric Holder and anti-gun mack daddy, Michael Bloomberg, law-abiding gun owners were left on their own.

 

To fight back against the anti-gun blue wave, thousands of Virginians stormed public meetings and passed so-called "Second Amendment Sanctuary" laws to preserve their rights. It was an in-your-face response to Democrats who are fond of sanctuaries for non-citizens.

 

Democrats revealed a spending plan that included a force to remove guns from people and more spending on criminal justice for jail space and prosecutions. Then Democrats asked for public input.

 

Hundreds of Virginians have turned up at these budget meetings to talk about gun rights. Some Democrat lawmakers have listened politely, others have had a sudden urge to go to the bathroom when the "gun guys" show up to testify.

 

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12 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

 

The right to armed resistance to tyranny is one of the few natural rights we actually have.  The fact that these folks haven't resorted to armed resistance yet is a sign that they still believe in the process that bad actors are abusing in an attempt to curtail that right.  Be happy!

 

this is the area I can "go there" with my US Conservative brothers and sisterse

 

but I support your right to self-determine your Constitution, and tweaking liberals is a wonderful lifelong pursuit as well

 

 

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The following bill, profiled January 6, 2020, in the Virginia House of Delegates makes indoor shooting ranges not owned by government illegal to own and operate.

 

HOUSE BILL NO. 567

Offered January 8, 2020

Prefiled January 6, 2020

 

A BILL to amend the Code of Virginia by adding in Article 3 of Chapter 12 of Title 18.2 a section numbered 18.2-511.2, relating to indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in buildings not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or federal government; exceptions; civil penalty.

---------- Patron-- Helmer

---------- Committee Referral Pending

---------- Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

 

1. That the Code of Virginia is amended by adding in Article 3 of Chapter 12 of Title 18.2 a section numbered 18.2-511.2 as follows:

§ 18.2-511.2. Indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in private buildings; exceptions; penalty.

A. As used in this section, "indoor shooting range" means any fully enclosed or indoor area or facility designed for the use of rifles, shotguns, pistols, silhouettes, skeet, trap, or black powder or any other similar sport shooting.

B. It is unlawful to operate an indoor shooting range in any building not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or the federal government unless (i) fewer than 50 employees work in the building or (ii) (a) at least 90 percent of the users of the indoor shooting range are law-enforcement officers, as defined in § 9.1-101, or federal law-enforcement officers, (b) the indoor shooting range maintains a log of each user's name, phone number, address, and the law-enforcement agency where such user is employed, and (c) the indoor shooting range verifies each user's identity and address by requiring all users to present a government-issued photo-identification card.

C. Any person that violates the provisions of this section is subject to a civil penalty of not less than $1,000 nor more than $100,000 for the initial violation and $5,000 per day for each day of violation thereafter.

 

 

 

 

Yes, I see the 50 employee bullsh*t, but I would ask, what is the purpose of this 'legislation' ?

 

And this is going to stop actual criminals.....how?

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, B-Man said:

The following bill, profiled January 6, 2020, in the Virginia House of Delegates makes indoor shooting ranges not owned by government illegal to own and operate.

 

HOUSE BILL NO. 567

Offered January 8, 2020

Prefiled January 6, 2020

 

A BILL to amend the Code of Virginia by adding in Article 3 of Chapter 12 of Title 18.2 a section numbered 18.2-511.2, relating to indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in buildings not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or federal government; exceptions; civil penalty.

---------- Patron-- Helmer

---------- Committee Referral Pending

---------- Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

 

1. That the Code of Virginia is amended by adding in Article 3 of Chapter 12 of Title 18.2 a section numbered 18.2-511.2 as follows:

§ 18.2-511.2. Indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in private buildings; exceptions; penalty.

A. As used in this section, "indoor shooting range" means any fully enclosed or indoor area or facility designed for the use of rifles, shotguns, pistols, silhouettes, skeet, trap, or black powder or any other similar sport shooting.

B. It is unlawful to operate an indoor shooting range in any building not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or the federal government unless (i) fewer than 50 employees work in the building or (ii) (a) at least 90 percent of the users of the indoor shooting range are law-enforcement officers, as defined in § 9.1-101, or federal law-enforcement officers, (b) the indoor shooting range maintains a log of each user's name, phone number, address, and the law-enforcement agency where such user is employed, and (c) the indoor shooting range verifies each user's identity and address by requiring all users to present a government-issued photo-identification card.

C. Any person that violates the provisions of this section is subject to a civil penalty of not less than $1,000 nor more than $100,000 for the initial violation and $5,000 per day for each day of violation thereafter.

 

 

 

 

Yes, I see the 50 employee bullsh*t, but I would ask, what is the purpose of this 'legislation' ?

 

And this is going to stop actual criminals.....how?

 

 

 

 

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I guess to prevent someone from renting a floor of a privately owned office building and turning it into a shooting range?  I don't get it either.

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1 hour ago, LeviF91 said:

 

The right to armed resistance to tyranny is one of the few natural rights we actually have.  The fact that these folks haven't resorted to armed resistance yet is a sign that they still believe in the process that bad actors are abusing in an attempt to curtail that right.  Be happy!

Resistance? For what? Because they can't win elections? Yes, be happy, we live in the best society this world has to offer. 

Posted
20 minutes ago, B-Man said:

The following bill, profiled January 6, 2020, in the Virginia House of Delegates makes indoor shooting ranges not owned by government illegal to own and operate.

 

HOUSE BILL NO. 567

Offered January 8, 2020

Prefiled January 6, 2020

 

A BILL to amend the Code of Virginia by adding in Article 3 of Chapter 12 of Title 18.2 a section numbered 18.2-511.2, relating to indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in buildings not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or federal government; exceptions; civil penalty.

---------- Patron-- Helmer

---------- Committee Referral Pending

---------- Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

 

1. That the Code of Virginia is amended by adding in Article 3 of Chapter 12 of Title 18.2 a section numbered 18.2-511.2 as follows:

§ 18.2-511.2. Indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in private buildings; exceptions; penalty.

A. As used in this section, "indoor shooting range" means any fully enclosed or indoor area or facility designed for the use of rifles, shotguns, pistols, silhouettes, skeet, trap, or black powder or any other similar sport shooting.

B. It is unlawful to operate an indoor shooting range in any building not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or the federal government unless (i) fewer than 50 employees work in the building or (ii) (a) at least 90 percent of the users of the indoor shooting range are law-enforcement officers, as defined in § 9.1-101, or federal law-enforcement officers, (b) the indoor shooting range maintains a log of each user's name, phone number, address, and the law-enforcement agency where such user is employed, and (c) the indoor shooting range verifies each user's identity and address by requiring all users to present a government-issued photo-identification card.

C. Any person that violates the provisions of this section is subject to a civil penalty of not less than $1,000 nor more than $100,000 for the initial violation and $5,000 per day for each day of violation thereafter.

 

 

 

 

Yes, I see the 50 employee bullsh*t, but I would ask, what is the purpose of this 'legislation' ?

 

And this is going to stop actual criminals.....how?

 

 

 

 

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The purpose of that legislation is to shut down the NRA headquarters in Fairfax.

 

Really...how many other ranges employ more than 50 people?

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1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Resistance? For what? Because they can't win elections? Yes, be happy, we live in the best society this world has to offer. 

 

It doesn't matter who wins elections.  Natural rights are natural rights.  A legitimately elected government official (or legitimately elected government) becomes illegitimate as soon as he (it) infringes on the people's natural rights.

2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

The purpose of that legislation is to shut down the NRA headquarters in Fairfax.

 

Really...how many other ranges employ more than 50 people?

 

Ah, there it is.

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1 minute ago, LeviF91 said:

 

Ah, there it is.

 

Yep. Democrats, silencing their opposition since forever. But let's keep pretending their harmless and do nothing to silence them first.

Posted
27 minutes ago, B-Man said:

The following bill, profiled January 6, 2020, in the Virginia House of Delegates makes indoor shooting ranges not owned by government illegal to own and operate.

 

HOUSE BILL NO. 567

Offered January 8, 2020

Prefiled January 6, 2020

 

A BILL to amend the Code of Virginia by adding in Article 3 of Chapter 12 of Title 18.2 a section numbered 18.2-511.2, relating to indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in buildings not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or federal government; exceptions; civil penalty.

---------- Patron-- Helmer

---------- Committee Referral Pending

---------- Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

 

1. That the Code of Virginia is amended by adding in Article 3 of Chapter 12 of Title 18.2 a section numbered 18.2-511.2 as follows:

§ 18.2-511.2. Indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in private buildings; exceptions; penalty.

A. As used in this section, "indoor shooting range" means any fully enclosed or indoor area or facility designed for the use of rifles, shotguns, pistols, silhouettes, skeet, trap, or black powder or any other similar sport shooting.

B. It is unlawful to operate an indoor shooting range in any building not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or the federal government unless (i) fewer than 50 employees work in the building or (ii) (a) at least 90 percent of the users of the indoor shooting range are law-enforcement officers, as defined in § 9.1-101, or federal law-enforcement officers, (b) the indoor shooting range maintains a log of each user's name, phone number, address, and the law-enforcement agency where such user is employed, and (c) the indoor shooting range verifies each user's identity and address by requiring all users to present a government-issued photo-identification card.

C. Any person that violates the provisions of this section is subject to a civil penalty of not less than $1,000 nor more than $100,000 for the initial violation and $5,000 per day for each day of violation thereafter.

 

 

 

 

Yes, I see the 50 employee bullsh*t, but I would ask, what is the purpose of this 'legislation' ?

 

And this is going to stop actual criminals.....how?

 

 

 

 

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This article shows all the proposed guns laws, I do not see this law in there. 

 

https://wtop.com/virginia/2020/01/the-gun-bills-that-are-a-big-focus-for-new-democratic-led-virginia-general-assembly/

 

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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Yep. Democrats, silencing their opposition since forever. But let's keep pretending their harmless and do nothing to silence them first.

 

Yep.  They're attempting to dismantle "opposing" institutions in order to form their one-party state.

 

Not to mention that in 10 years that 50 employee bit will be considered a "loophole" and then Dems will want to close it.

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Just now, LeviF91 said:

 

Yep.  They're attempting to dismantle "opposing" institutions in order to form their one-party state.

 

 

 

But we should do nothing to combat it, because that would violate "principles."
 

Pragmatism > idealism.

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

 

It doesn't matter who wins elections.  Natural rights are natural rights.  A legitimately elected government official (or legitimately elected government) becomes illegitimate as soon as he (it) infringes on the people's natural rights.

 

Ah, there it is.

Is taking away a wife beaters guns a reason good enough reason to revolt? I'd say it isn't. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

This article shows all the proposed guns laws, I do not see this law in there. 

 

https://wtop.com/virginia/2020/01/the-gun-bills-that-are-a-big-focus-for-new-democratic-led-virginia-general-assembly/

 

 

https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+HB567

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Is taking away a wife beaters guns a reason good enough reason to revolt? I'd say it isn't. 

 

Let's not pretend that that is what this all is about.  You linked an article that says there's more than that and you know it.  Don't be disingenuous for the sake of advancing an illegitimate point.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Is taking away a wife beaters guns a reason good enough reason to revolt? I'd say it isn't. 

 

How about taking a away a beaten wife's right to self defense? 

 

'They say God made man, but Sam Colt made them equal.

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