Tiberius Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Which celebrity will be the first to remind us of the dangers of high powered weapons by tweeting from their movie set where they are making millions of dollars glorifying such violence? The right wing terrorism angle will probably be just as much of an issue.
Deranged Rhino Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: The right wing terrorism angle will probably be just as much of an issue. If the supposed manifesto is real (and I've heard it's both a hoax and that it's real so I have no idea), he's not a right or left winger. 1
Tiberius Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: If the supposed manifesto is real (and I've heard it's both a hoax and that it's real so I have no idea), he's not a right or left winger. Anti-immigrant nut. Went to a place where Mexicans shopped.
Deranged Rhino Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 Meathead alert: Nothing like partisan asshattery to exploit a tragedy. 1
B-Man Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Anti-immigrant nut. Went to a place where Mexicans shopped. II 19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Meathead alert Nothing like partisan asshattery to exploit a tragedy.
Sig1Hunter Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Meathead alert: Nothing like partisan asshattery to exploit a tragedy. Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is a “white nationalist” anyway?
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is a “white nationalist” anyway? It’s anyone who does something terrible that woke leftists wish to link to the President. 2 1
Tiberius Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: It’s anyone who does something terrible that woke leftists wish to link to the President. He was acting on President Trumps signature issue. This is why Trump scapegoating immigrants is so dangerous. You know that.
/dev/null Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is a “white nationalist” anyway? a boogeyman
Buftex Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Anti-immigrant nut. Went to a place where Mexicans shopped. Drove from Dallas to El Paso to do it. 12 minutes ago, /dev/null said: a boogeyman Keep your head buried in the sand... 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: He was acting on President Trumps signature issue. This is why Trump scapegoating immigrants is so dangerous. You know that. I've never heard that espoused from Trump. I've never heard him call for mass shootings, support mass shootings, nor have I ever heard him "scapegoat" immigrants. Quite the opposite, in fact. I think you know that.
Koko78 Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, Tiberius said: He was acting on President Trumps signature issue. Trump's signature issue to is murder people in WalMart? Did they not roll back the prices for him? 1
Sig1Hunter Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said: It’s anyone who does something terrible that woke leftists wish to link to the President. I’m white, and I love my nation. Does that make me one?
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: I’m white, and I love my nation. Does that make me one? Oh, yes. Me also. We were the first.
3rdnlng Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Oh, yes. Me also. We were the first. I came out of my mother's womb white and loving my country. Seniority is mine.
Thurmal34 Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 Let’s get more. Everyone knows a good guy with a gun would have stopped this terrorist.
transplantbillsfan Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, njbuff said: Mental illness is rampant in the United States. Until we are able to deal with this, these horrors will continue. i know a lot of people wanna make this thing political, but it’s mental. Politics has NOTHING to do with this, Yeah it's mental. It was a white guy. Clearly mental. Gotta focus on those "mental issues" because it's a white dude. Can't call it terrorism. It was a white dude. But this happens and it's not a white dude... oh how the narrative shifts It's all just so goddamn frustrating Edited August 4, 2019 by transplantbillsfan 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 More guns! So we can all be "Super Hero" Domestic Terrorist fighters and shoot people in crossfire! Even "better"... So when a bad guy figures out that everybody is packing... All they have to do is fire once, slink away, everybody returns fire... Cops show up thinking people are the active shooter. Death by cops! What a crazy concept coming to a community near you!
Big Blitz Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) Absolutely not mentally ill. Just read the manifesto. He racist, he hates corporations, he hates both political parties, and hates the system. He's 21. You should not have this kind of disdain for.....everything. Something is going on with our kids that is carrying over into adulthood that is sick. This is not normal. A complete and total failure of his family and the public schools. Literally has a list of all the things you are lied to about in schools or at least get a one sided view. He seemed to see thru that and the anger festered. So wait........you're not going to blame the gun? You're misguided if you think guns are the issue. This country has far bigger problems than guns. Society is broke. If you're anger upon hearing of the shooting was directed at the guns or the NRA, and not how our society continues to fail our own like this is mind boggling to me. The adults have lost total control. You want to call it domestic or white nationalist terrorism....ok. And? Outlaw that. Or something. I like to think there is a better way. It appears to me as an observer of society, our culture, and understanding what our kids are consuming all around them (I teach and am a father of 4) that white young men are lost and hopeless. They often have a crappy Male role model at home or none at all. And they often don't see a male teacher until they are in 6th grade. This is a problem. Currently the most marginalized person in America are young males. Especially poor white males. They get from social media, the schools, media, and Hollywood that "they're inherently racist, sexist, and bigots. They constantly hear "the future is female.....or the future is color....or the more hostile "soon white folks will be in the minority." And it comes across from the source (most of the times deliberately) as jovial. Like the white man has it coming or something. I'm not making excuses for this guy at all. I want solutions as much as anyone else but Tim McVeigh didn't need a gun. Neither have countless others. So back to the Guns. Woman love and have access to guns just as much as men. Many love Trump and his immigration policies just as much as the men. Yet, they aren't doing this. Its almost all white men. Makes zero sense to blame guns based on that fact alone. What I'm saying is he didn't kill because he wants a wall or likes Rs a little more than the Ds. Or he really thinks the environment is doomed. I want a wall. I want illegal immigration stopped. I like clean water. But I hold a good job and my family is supported and I listen, talk to, and discipline my kids. The Left always supported these things we at least agreed on the importance of family being the foundation. This guy had no hope. Felt no sense of purpose. That his goals would never be attained. That's not the gun. Go ahead and blame racism or political rhetoric (I believe this guy said he had these feelings before Trump). We just can't help ourselves. The social media era that he grew up in is looking to blame before we've even determined all the facts. Because we continue to look at everyone as being on Team Red or Team Blue looking for total victory on everything. We either have to start looking at each other as Americans that share basic principles and values (we aren't we've grown too far apart on many things) or society will continue to erode. We let this young man down. He grew hateful and resentful as a result. And we'll respond by saying just take the guns away. That continues to make zero sense in light of the bigger picture. Taking their guns away does not help them find a purpose. Or end their hate. Nor will it guarantee this won't happen again. Edited August 4, 2019 by Big Blitz
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