LeviF Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, MILFHUNTER#518 said: This kid spent a year in a mental health treatment program. On the ATF background check form, all he had to do was check a box saying he had not been institutionalized. Not good enough. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5398097/Florida-school-shooter-bought-AK-47-month-ago.html Assuming he was involuntarily institutionalized, your gripe is with the state of Florida, not with the background check. The background check will always catch the institutionalization...if the state officials do their jobs and enter the info into the database. Same issue with the former Air Force guy who shot up the church in Texas; if the AF officials responsible for entering the information into the database had done their jobs, the background check would have picked up his DV charge.
row_33 Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: This kid spent a year in a mental health treatment program. On the ATF background check form, all he had to do was check a box saying he had not been institutionalized. Not good enough. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5398097/Florida-school-shooter-bought-AK-47-month-ago.html Apparently it does. so criminals lie? i thought they were just misunderstood people demonized by citizens with jobs who don't murder people.... 1
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Assuming he was involuntarily institutionalized, your gripe is with the state of Florida, not with the background check. The background check will always catch the institutionalization...if the state officials do their jobs and enter the info into the database. Same issue with the former Air Force guy who shot up the church in Texas; if the AF officials responsible for entering the information into the database had done their jobs, the background check would have picked up his DV charge. Exactly. This seems to be a recurring theme. We need to find some way to tighten it up.
3rdnlng Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 It's a simple matter. We don't need new laws if by following the old laws we could have prevented Cruz from purchasing a weapon legally.
LeviF Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Exactly. This seems to be a recurring theme. We need to find some way to tighten it up. By what, exactly? Making another law for state officials to ignore? Put pressure on states and municipalities and courts to do their !@#$ing jobs and suddenly it gets "tightened up." The Air Force suddenly started adding names to the database after their !@#$up was put on national TV.
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: It's a simple matter. We don't need new laws if by following the old laws we could have prevented Cruz from purchasing a weapon legally. Maybe not a new law, more like administrative housekeeping in the DOJ/ATF/FBI or some other alphabet agencies. Bottom line is this: When it comes to firearms laws and sales, something as simple as this should never happen. People are dying. KIDS are dying. OUR KIDS. AMERICAN KIDS. If this keeps happening, not only will more blood be shed needlessly, eventually we will not have a 2nd Amendment to exercise and argue about on internet forums
row_33 Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 so they should put time served in a psych ward on your drivers license? it's not as though a free society kind of encourages deviant people to lie like a MOFO to get around loopholes when they see a chance to...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Maybe not a new law, more like administrative housekeeping in the DOJ/ATF/FBI or some other alphabet agencies. Bottom line is this: When it comes to firearms laws and sales, something as simple as this should never happen. People are dying. KIDS are dying. OUR KIDS. AMERICAN KIDS. If this keeps happening, not only will more blood be shed needlessly, eventually we will not have a 2nd Amendment to exercise and argue about on internet forums No, we'll have a Second Amendment. Either that or we'll have so much bloodshed that people will be longing for the days when mass shootings were taking the lives of around twice as many as die of constipation annually.
Tiberius Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: No, we'll have a Second Amendment. Either that or we'll have so much bloodshed that people will be longing for the days when mass shootings were taking the lives of around twice as many as die of constipation annually. We might have to pass through a time of troubles. Freedom isn't free. But we know who will win and who will lose and suffer at the hands of a people filled with righteous vengeance. Edited February 16, 2018 by Tiberius
3rdnlng Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: We might have to pass through a time of troubles. Freedom isn't free. But we know who will win and who will lose and suffer at the hands of a people filled with righteous vengeance. Verily dude, verily.
row_33 Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, Tiberius said: We might have to pass through a time of troubles. Freedom isn't free. But we know who will win and who will lose and suffer at the hands of a people filled with righteous vengeance. i went through the news leading off with bombing basically every day of ROTC or military or research buildings in the early 70s this is Disneyland
Tiberius Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, row_33 said: i went through the news leading off with bombing basically every day of ROTC or military or research buildings in the early 70s this is Disneyland You don't think things can get worse? What if everyone (Trump/Russians Fox) start screaming the mid-term elections were fixed and refuse to sit a new Congress?
row_33 Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You don't think things can get worse? What if everyone (Trump/Russians Fox) start screaming the mid-term elections were fixed and refuse to sit a new Congress? i don't see the libs or further crazier picking up weapons and building bombs.... or kidnapping heiresses... i fully understood the outrage at drafting people to go to Nam, there is nothing remotely close to that today. people are upset because they had to read Hamlet for an undergrad course? Edited February 16, 2018 by row_33
Tiberius Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: i don't see the libs or further crazier picking up weapons and building bombs.... or kidnapping heiresses... i fully understood the outrage at drafting people to go to Nam, there is nothing remotely close to that today. I hope you are right
row_33 Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I hope you are right what is the griping about? can you help me here? that the University-Industrial complex has made it more miserable for people racking up huge loans for a totally bogus degree? that life without a family, friends or community (by way of church/charity/sports/chess club) is basically pointless and bitter?
Tiberius Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: And Russia is funneling money to Trump through the NRA Search Results NRA, Russia and Trump: Money laundering poisoning US democracy ... https://www.cnbc.com/.../nra-russia-and-trump-money-laundering-poisoning-us-demo... 1 day ago - NRA, Russia and Trump: How 'dark money' is poisoning American democracy. The FBI is investigating the National Rifle Association to determine whether Russians illegally funneled money through the organization to help the Trump campaign. Beyond Russian meddling, this allegation illustrates a ...
row_33 Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 money-laundering, same old witch and commie-hunt it isn't provable, even if it exists in the first place
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