boyst Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 18 hours ago, /dev/null said: https://www.radioiowa.com/2018/12/13/students-at-north-butler-and-clarksville-schools-can-take-firearms-course-in-spring/ But a dude also had his zebra killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 https://www.ajc.com/news/gun-deaths-highest-level-years-cdc-says/vgcdQWPITScDYEdpHrswBP/amp.html Firearms do make suicide more efficient to carry out, more "impluse" efficient. Just saying... I suppose they could stab themselves 20 times with the butcher knife, but that's a bit slow. "Nearly 40,000 people in the United States died from a gunshot wound in 2017. According to the data, 14,542 were murders and 23,854 were ruled a suicide." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: https://www.ajc.com/news/gun-deaths-highest-level-years-cdc-says/vgcdQWPITScDYEdpHrswBP/amp.html Firearms do make suicide more efficient to carry out, more "impluse" efficient. Just saying... I suppose they could stab themselves 20 times with the butcher knife, but that's a bit slow. "Nearly 40,000 people in the United States died from a gunshot wound in 2017. According to the data, 14,542 were murders and 23,854 were ruled a suicide." Bridges are pretty efficient too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Bridges are pretty efficient too. No they are not. Not as efficient as when that lack of impulse control is screaming: Time is an angel of mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: No they are not. Not as efficient as when that lack of impulse control is screaming: Time is an angel of mercy. Drive to a store. Fill out paperwork. Wait for background check. Get gun. ORRRR Drive to bridge. Jump. Sounds more efficient to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Drive to a store. Fill out paperwork. Wait for background check. Get gun. ORRRR Drive to bridge. Jump. Sounds more efficient to me. Dude... Yeah, that's it. LoL... Yeah... The thought just enters their mind before they have the firearm. If you check the stats. Something tells me they were legal, sane gun owners long before their impulse faults and seeing "the easy answer" just sitting there on the credenza just happened to be convenient. Sheesh... “We are seeing a real rise in suicides, particularly males age 60 and higher,” /smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Dude... Yeah, that's it. LoL... Yeah... The thought just enters their mind before they have the firearm. If you check the stats. Something tells me they were legal, sane gun owners long before their impulse faults and seeing "the easy answer" just sitting there on the credenza just happened to be convenient. Sheesh... “We are seeing a real rise in suicides, particularly males age 60 and higher,” /smh ....shall not be infringed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 37 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Dude... Yeah, that's it. LoL... Yeah... The thought just enters their mind before they have the firearm. If you check the stats. Something tells me they were legal, sane gun owners long before their impulse faults and seeing "the easy answer" just sitting there on the credenza just happened to be convenient. Sheesh... “We are seeing a real rise in suicides, particularly males age 60 and higher,” /smh So take away or deny guns from people who aren't suicidal in case they become suicidal in the future? Another MENSA member added to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, BringBackOrton said: So take away or deny guns from people who aren't suicidal in case they become suicidal in the future? Another MENSA member added to the list. I never said that. Just saying, the ease and efficient way for gun owners to off themselves is a problem. By all means keep the guns. LoL... They will kill themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I never said that. Just saying, the ease and efficient way for gun owners to off themselves is a problem. By all means keep the guns. LoL... They will kill themselves. Do you own a gun(s)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Do you own a gun(s)? I am taking the 5th. Let's just say I am registered and have an Illinois FOID Card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I never said that. Just saying, the ease and efficient way for gun owners to off themselves is a problem. By all means keep the guns. LoL... They will kill themselves. Things that you don’t like and that you can’t change aren’t problems. That’s just the way it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I am taking the 5th. Let's just say I am registered and have an Illinois FOID Card. Im not sure what a FOID card is and I’m too lazy to make googles on the subject. Nonetheless, while there are negatives of an armed populace I believe the positives outweigh them. Further, shall not be infringed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Im not sure what a FOID card is and I’m too lazy to make googles on the subject. Nonetheless, while there are negatives of an armed populace I believe the positives outweigh them. Further, shall not be infringed. Yes, in regards to a well regulated militia. Let's not forget that part. Edited December 16, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yes, in regards to a well regulated militia. Let's not forget that part. “ Extravagant as the supposition is, let it however be made. Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; still it would not be going too far to say, that the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops. Those who are best acquainted with the last successful resistance of this country against the British arms, will be most inclined to deny the possibility of it. Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to possess the additional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who could collect the national will and direct the national force, and of officers appointed out of the militia, by these governments, and attached both to them and to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that the throne of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned in spite of the legions which surround it. Let us not insult the free and gallant citizens of America with the suspicion, that they would be less able to defend the rights of which they would be in actual possession, than the debased subjects of arbitrary power would be to rescue theirs from the hands of their oppressors. Let us rather no longer insult them with the supposition that they can ever reduce themselves to the necessity of making the experiment, by a blind and tame submission to the long train of insidious measures which must precede and produce it. The argument under the present head may be put into a very concise form, which appears altogether conclusive. Either the mode in which the federal government is to be constructed will render it sufficiently dependent on the people, or it will not. On the first supposition, it will be restrained by that dependence from forming schemes obnoxious to their constituents. On the other supposition, it will not possess the confidence of the people, and its schemes of usurpation will be easily defeated by the State governments, who will be supported by the people. On summing up the considerations stated in this and the last paper, they seem to amount to the most convincing evidence, that the powers proposed to be lodged in the federal government are as little formidable to those reserved to the individual States, as they are indispensably necessary to accomplish the purposes of the Union; and that all those alarms which have been sounded, of a meditated and consequential annihilation of the State governments, must, on the most favorable interpretation, be ascribed to the chimerical fears of the authors of them. PUBLIUS.” Some of Federalist 46. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yes, in regards to a well regulated militia. Let's not forget that part. No, not in regards to a well regulated militia. That's not how the English language works. Just because you'refunctionally illiterate and don't know how to diagram a sentence doesn't mean that those of us with reading levels of 6th grade or higher have to pretend that you have any idea what you're talking about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: No, not in regards to a well regulated militia. That's not how the English language works. Just because you'refunctionally illiterate and don't know how to diagram a sentence doesn't mean that those of us with reading levels of 6th grade or higher have to pretend that you have any idea what you're talking about. is it flowing backwards, yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2018: No one wants to ban your guns. SLIGHTLY LATER IN 2018: Pittsburgh Mayor Trying To Pass Illegal And Unconstitutional Gun Ban. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Foxx said: is it flowing backwards, yet? It always flow backwards with Eric. In his ass and out his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: It always flow backwards with Eric. In his ass and out his mouth. I'll leave the "in his ass and out his mouth" between the two of you, but in the decade or so I've known EII on TSW he does tend to talk out of his ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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