DC Tom Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 8:10 PM, Gary M said: Ok, but does that change the findings? Expand Yes, because it was an opinion piece.
GoBills808 Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 8:10 PM, Gary M said: Ok, but does that change the findings? Expand Not peer-reviewed. Those 'findings' are op-eds.
Gary M Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 8:11 PM, DC Tom said: Yes, because it was an opinion piece. Expand So I will delete that one and stick with Dr. Lotts findings.
/dev/null Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 8:03 PM, Gary M said: “despite constant and substantially increasing gun ownership, the United States saw progressive and dramatic reductions in criminal violence,” write Kates and Mauser. “ Expand Anyone else see the irony in a gun study by somebody named Mauser?
3rdnlng Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 9:25 PM, /dev/null said: Anyone else see the irony in a gun study by somebody named Mauser? Expand Magnum P.I. does. 1
Misterbluesky Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 Our niece is bringing her Muslim boyfriend to the house on thursday...I'm going to offer him ham more than once and show him a few things at the basement bar.giddy up. he's from Jordan. A shotgun named Marcus-Clutch
unbillievable Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 8:12 PM, GoBills808 said: Not peer-reviewed. Those 'findings' are op-eds. Expand On 11/20/2018 at 8:04 PM, GoBills808 said: No. Not 'Harvard University', not 'study'. Expand What if I told you that 97% of gun owners agree? Consensus!
billsfan89 Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 6:40 PM, Gary M said: Harvard finds more guns equals less crime. https://www.beliefnet.com/news/articles/harvard-university-study-reveals-astonishing-link.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2ycHZ90ug9hipH1TigJ3O8jeIpzC_HpwD3i86V65ah_8k98Nm4qr_p-qM#0476YusUyLFKPC5z.01 Expand Correlation may not equal causality, it also completely misrepresenting the source and the nature of the "study" as another poster pointed out. Onto the correlation point, I am not saying that there is or isn't a positive correlation between gun access/density and crime but rather that the findings might be not accurately looking at the cause of crime vs. the reason laws were enacted. For example if violent crime is increasing in an area or region, that region will enact gun control laws. The Gun control laws were a response to rising crime not the cause of the rising crime. Whereas if crime isn't a major problem in an area then that area won't enact gun control laws. So the safe nature of an area isn't a result of laxer gun laws but rather a byproduct of it. Crime tends to correlate to relative poverty and lack of opportunity (Which results in single motherhood and a lot of disaffected youth who are the most susceptible to commit crime) above any other factors such as criminal justice and gun control laws. I just don't think gun control or loosening of gun laws correlate that much to general crime.
DC Tom Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 10:32 PM, Misterbluesky said: Our niece is bringing her Muslim boyfriend to the house on thursday...I'm going to offer him ham more than once and show him a few things at the basement bar.giddy up. he's from Jordan. A shotgun named Marcus-Clutch Expand And I'm planning on spending my Thanksgiving not being a complete doucherocket and utterly reprehensible human being. But hey...good luck with your plan. 2
Misterbluesky Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 11:21 PM, DC Tom said: And I'm planning on spending my Thanksgiving not being a complete doucherocket and utterly reprehensible human being. But hey...good luck with your plan. Expand My home,my rules.The ham will be placed in front of him,and he's going to smell the ham.
GoBills808 Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 11:43 PM, Misterbluesky said: My home,my rules.The ham will be placed in front of him,and he's going to smell the ham. Expand I think once was enough to make your point.
3rdnlng Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 11:21 PM, DC Tom said: And I'm planning on spending my Thanksgiving not being a complete doucherocket and utterly reprehensible human being. But hey...good luck with your plan. Expand Turning over a new leaf? The prior Tom would have given the guy stuffing with bacon hidden in it.
Foxx Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) On 11/20/2018 at 10:32 PM, Misterbluesky said: Our niece is bringing her Muslim boyfriend to the house on thursday...I'm going to offer him ham more than once and show him a few things at the basement bar.giddy up. he's from Jordan. A shotgun named Marcus-Clutch Expand On 11/20/2018 at 11:43 PM, Misterbluesky said: My home,my rules.The ham will be placed in front of him,and he's going to smell the ham. Expand not for nothing but... it is your nieces Thanksgiving as well. if she loves her uncbluesky, you can bet she sure as hell won't after the, 'my home,myrules' asshattery. Edited November 21, 2018 by Foxx
boyst Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 11:43 PM, Misterbluesky said: My home,my rules.The ham will be placed in front of him,and he's going to smell the ham. Expand I am an *****. You're a piece of ***** for this.
3rdnlng Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/21/2018 at 1:46 AM, Boyst62 said: I am an *****. You're a piece of ***** for this. Expand Conversely, do you tip your cattle when done with them?
boyst Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/21/2018 at 2:00 AM, 3rdnlng said: Conversely, do you tip your cattle when done with them? Expand They get more than the tip
Kevbeau Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/21/2018 at 2:02 AM, Boyst62 said: They get more than the tip Expand Boyst picks up the 7-10 split!
3rdnlng Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/21/2018 at 2:28 AM, Kevbeau said: Boyst picks up the 7-10 split! Expand North Carolina is a little backward. They haven't heard of tipping cows yet.
LeviF Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 11:43 PM, Misterbluesky said: My home,my rules.The ham will be placed in front of him,and he's going to smell the ham. Expand On 11/21/2018 at 1:28 AM, Foxx said: not for nothing but... it is your nieces Thanksgiving as well. if she loves her uncbluesky, you can bet she sure as hell won't after the, 'my home,myrules' asshattery. Expand I'm not a big fan of the "religion" of "peace" myself, but Foxx has a point. 2
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 Court: NRA lawsuit against NY Gov Andrew Cuomo over “blacklist” can go forward “the allegations of direct and implied threats to insurers and financial institutions because of these entities’ links with the NRA … are sufficient to make out plausible First Amendment freedom-of-speech claims.” 1 1
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