B-Man Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 The Second Amendment has existed since 1791. The problem is not guns. The problem is societal decay. Also, for the very popular question today............Why didn't Obama and the dems pass their type of "gun control" when they had all of Congress ? The answer is simple..........................they didn't want a one-term presidency. Think about that when you hear their moralistic speeches this week...................."we HAVE to do something" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: The Second Amendment has existed since 1791. The problem is not guns. The problem is societal decay. Also, for the very popular question today............Why didn't Obama and the dems pass their type of "gun control" when they had all of Congress ? The answer is simple..........................they didn't want a one-term presidency. Think about that when you hear their moralistic speeches this week...................."we HAVE to do something" . So the bumper sticker should read "guns don't kill people, Americans do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, thebug said: So the bumper sticker should read "guns don't kill people, Americans do." Just for you: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Just for you: Well if it's not the guns? I have already placed an order for the stickers. Do you want one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, thebug said: Well if it's not the guns? I have already placed an order for the stickers. Do you want one? Sure. Send it to me at 935 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC 20535 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Sure. Send it to me at 935 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC 20535 3inch, can I call you 3inch? I mean we are friends here, right? How many do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, thebug said: 3inch, can I call you 3inch? I mean we are friends here, right? How many do you want? You're so clever. What's next, are you going to ask for junk pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: You're so clever. What's next, are you going to ask for junk pictures? Ok, sorry a little too personal I guess. Let's just go back to 3inschlong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You're so clever. What's next, are you going to ask for junk pictures? You are confusing me with Boyst. Now seriously, I need a number so I can complete the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, row_33 said: I hear rational arguments that teachers should be armed in schools to prevent more damage from postal-goers. but that would never fly and seems ghastly to me. That is NOT a rational idea. Teachers are trained to teach. You cannot learn how to fight a gun fight with a PowerPoint class, and it takes continuous training. I personally have spent HOURS pointing my M4 and targets practicing target acquisition and magazine swaps. Why? Cause that’s what ya have to do for CQC. Then what hat kind of guns are we giving the teachers? What kind of rounds are we issuing? That is such a bad idea. When I finished college in Georgia there was a “campus carry” bill goin around. Now, I may or may not have always had a gun in my bag while on campus before this legislation....but I was against the legislation. Why? Untrained people with guns are stupid. On top of that you’ve just given law enforcement another obstacle. They’ll arrive on scene and then they see a civilian with a gun and they shoot the person even though the person was a “good guy with a gun.” Civilians don’t understand how easy it is to shoot friendly forces. It happens. Happens all the time because these situations are always chaotic. Teachers and guns is a bad idea. Edited February 18, 2018 by The_Dude 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, The_Dude said: That is NOT a rational idea. Teachers are trained to teach. You cannot learn how to fight a gun fight with a PowerPoint class, and it takes continuous training. I personally have spent HOURS pointing my M4 and targets practicing target acquisition and magazine swaps. Why? Cause that’s what ya have to do for CQC. Then what hat kind of guns are we giving the teachers? What kind of rounds are we issuing? That is such a bad idea. When I finished college in Georgia there was a “campus carry” bill goin around. Now, I may or may not have always had a gun in my bag while on campus before this legislation....but I was against the legislation. Why? Untrained people with guns are stupid. On top of that you’ve just given law enforcement another obstacle. They’ll arrive on scene and then they see a civilian with a gun and they shoot the person even though the person was a “good guy with a gun.” Civilians don’t understand how easy it is to shoot friendly forces. It happens. Happens all the time because these situations are always chaotic. Teachers and guns is a bad idea. I don't think anybody is really proposing compulsory carry for teachers. Simply allowing them the option may help. Odds are good that you will find a small number of qualified individuals who are willing to carry. I went to a pretty small high school (avg graduating class around 90) and two teachers were combat veterans, and my guidance counselor was a former sheriff's deputy. These attackers know that schools today are soft targets. Putting a little doubt in their mind about that could move the needle a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, The_Dude said: When I finished college in Georgia there was a “campus carry” bill goin around. Now, I may or may not have always had a gun in my bag while on campus before this legislation....but I was against the legislation. Why? Untrained people with guns are stupid. On top of that you’ve just given law enforcement another obstacle. They’ll arrive on scene and then they see a civilian with a gun and they shoot the person even though the person was a “good guy with a gun.” Civilians don’t understand how easy it is to shoot friendly forces. It happens. Happens all the time because these situations are always chaotic. Dude, your from Georgia I assume, or at least spent time there, so you must also be aware of Kennesaw law that requires all citizens to own firearms. The law is not enforced, but once they passed it the crime rate dropped tremendously. You see, even though it wasn't enforced, a criminal has to wonder.... "Is this one following the law?" Many teachers are already qualified and I suspect more would become. But as long as the school does not publish a list of those that can, and simply post a sign that says, "school personnel may be armed" I suspect it would have a huge affect Edited February 18, 2018 by Cinga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 47 minutes ago, Cinga said: Dude, your from Georgia I assume, or at least spent time there, so you must also be aware of Kennesaw law that requires all citizens to own firearms. The law is not enforced, but once they passed it the crime rate dropped tremendously. You see, even though it wasn't enforced, a criminal has to wonder.... "Is this one following the law?" Many teachers are already qualified and I suspect more would become. But as long as the school does not publish a list of those that can, and simply post a sign that says, "school personnel may be armed" I suspect it would have a huge affect Do you really think an idiot like Nickolas Cruz was concerned whether a teacher had a handgun. Dude walked with with an AK47.... Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, KW95 said: Do you really think an idiot like Nickolas Cruz was concerned whether a teacher had a handgun. Dude walked with with an AK47.... Jesus. You shouldn't be ashamed to come out and say you know nothing about firearms. Everybody has knowledge gaps of some sort. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Cinga said: Dude, your from Georgia I assume, or at least spent time there, so you must also be aware of Kennesaw law that requires all citizens to own firearms. The law is not enforced, but once they passed it the crime rate dropped tremendously. You see, even though it wasn't enforced, a criminal has to wonder.... "Is this one following the law?" Many teachers are already qualified and I suspect more would become. But as long as the school does not publish a list of those that can, and simply post a sign that says, "school personnel may be armed" I suspect it would have a huge affect Bro...Kennesaw is also very upscale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, sodbuster said: You shouldn't be ashamed to come out and say you know nothing about firearms. Everybody has knowledge gaps of some sort. Great comeback..You missed the point. Shocker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Bro...Kennesaw is also very upscale. Median household income for Kennesaw is half that of Parkland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Cinga said: Median household income for Kennesaw is half that of Parkland. Pretty frickin fascinating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Oh the horror if no one had Guns! Many would feel naked and depressed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, KW95 said: Great comeback..You missed the point. Shocker! By all means, explain it for me. Edited February 19, 2018 by sodbuster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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