B-Man Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 The Second Amendment has existed since 1791. The problem is not guns. The problem is societal decay. Also, for the very popular question today............Why didn't Obama and the dems pass their type of "gun control" when they had all of Congress ? The answer is simple..........................they didn't want a one-term presidency. Think about that when you hear their moralistic speeches this week...................."we HAVE to do something" .
thebug Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 7:50 PM, B-Man said: The Second Amendment has existed since 1791. The problem is not guns. The problem is societal decay. Also, for the very popular question today............Why didn't Obama and the dems pass their type of "gun control" when they had all of Congress ? The answer is simple..........................they didn't want a one-term presidency. Think about that when you hear their moralistic speeches this week...................."we HAVE to do something" . Expand So the bumper sticker should read "guns don't kill people, Americans do."
3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 7:54 PM, thebug said: So the bumper sticker should read "guns don't kill people, Americans do." Expand Just for you:
thebug Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 7:58 PM, 3rdnlng said: Just for you: Expand Well if it's not the guns? I have already placed an order for the stickers. Do you want one? 1
3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 8:02 PM, thebug said: Well if it's not the guns? I have already placed an order for the stickers. Do you want one? Expand Sure. Send it to me at 935 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC 20535
thebug Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 8:13 PM, 3rdnlng said: Sure. Send it to me at 935 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC 20535 Expand 3inch, can I call you 3inch? I mean we are friends here, right? How many do you want?
3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 8:15 PM, thebug said: 3inch, can I call you 3inch? I mean we are friends here, right? How many do you want? Expand You're so clever. What's next, are you going to ask for junk pictures?
thebug Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 8:19 PM, 3rdnlng said: You're so clever. What's next, are you going to ask for junk pictures? Expand Ok, sorry a little too personal I guess. Let's just go back to 3inschlong.
thebug Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 8:19 PM, 3rdnlng said: You're so clever. What's next, are you going to ask for junk pictures? Expand You are confusing me with Boyst. Now seriously, I need a number so I can complete the order.
The_Dude Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) On 2/18/2018 at 2:53 AM, row_33 said: I hear rational arguments that teachers should be armed in schools to prevent more damage from postal-goers. but that would never fly and seems ghastly to me. Expand That is NOT a rational idea. Teachers are trained to teach. You cannot learn how to fight a gun fight with a PowerPoint class, and it takes continuous training. I personally have spent HOURS pointing my M4 and targets practicing target acquisition and magazine swaps. Why? Cause that’s what ya have to do for CQC. Then what hat kind of guns are we giving the teachers? What kind of rounds are we issuing? That is such a bad idea. When I finished college in Georgia there was a “campus carry” bill goin around. Now, I may or may not have always had a gun in my bag while on campus before this legislation....but I was against the legislation. Why? Untrained people with guns are stupid. On top of that you’ve just given law enforcement another obstacle. They’ll arrive on scene and then they see a civilian with a gun and they shoot the person even though the person was a “good guy with a gun.” Civilians don’t understand how easy it is to shoot friendly forces. It happens. Happens all the time because these situations are always chaotic. Teachers and guns is a bad idea. Edited February 18, 2018 by The_Dude 3
sodbuster Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 11:11 PM, The_Dude said: That is NOT a rational idea. Teachers are trained to teach. You cannot learn how to fight a gun fight with a PowerPoint class, and it takes continuous training. I personally have spent HOURS pointing my M4 and targets practicing target acquisition and magazine swaps. Why? Cause that’s what ya have to do for CQC. Then what hat kind of guns are we giving the teachers? What kind of rounds are we issuing? That is such a bad idea. When I finished college in Georgia there was a “campus carry” bill goin around. Now, I may or may not have always had a gun in my bag while on campus before this legislation....but I was against the legislation. Why? Untrained people with guns are stupid. On top of that you’ve just given law enforcement another obstacle. They’ll arrive on scene and then they see a civilian with a gun and they shoot the person even though the person was a “good guy with a gun.” Civilians don’t understand how easy it is to shoot friendly forces. It happens. Happens all the time because these situations are always chaotic. Teachers and guns is a bad idea. Expand I don't think anybody is really proposing compulsory carry for teachers. Simply allowing them the option may help. Odds are good that you will find a small number of qualified individuals who are willing to carry. I went to a pretty small high school (avg graduating class around 90) and two teachers were combat veterans, and my guidance counselor was a former sheriff's deputy. These attackers know that schools today are soft targets. Putting a little doubt in their mind about that could move the needle a bit.
Cinga Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) On 2/18/2018 at 11:11 PM, The_Dude said: When I finished college in Georgia there was a “campus carry” bill goin around. Now, I may or may not have always had a gun in my bag while on campus before this legislation....but I was against the legislation. Why? Untrained people with guns are stupid. On top of that you’ve just given law enforcement another obstacle. They’ll arrive on scene and then they see a civilian with a gun and they shoot the person even though the person was a “good guy with a gun.” Civilians don’t understand how easy it is to shoot friendly forces. It happens. Happens all the time because these situations are always chaotic. Expand Dude, your from Georgia I assume, or at least spent time there, so you must also be aware of Kennesaw law that requires all citizens to own firearms. The law is not enforced, but once they passed it the crime rate dropped tremendously. You see, even though it wasn't enforced, a criminal has to wonder.... "Is this one following the law?" Many teachers are already qualified and I suspect more would become. But as long as the school does not publish a list of those that can, and simply post a sign that says, "school personnel may be armed" I suspect it would have a huge affect Edited February 18, 2018 by Cinga
KW95 - JA17 Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 11:54 PM, Cinga said: Dude, your from Georgia I assume, or at least spent time there, so you must also be aware of Kennesaw law that requires all citizens to own firearms. The law is not enforced, but once they passed it the crime rate dropped tremendously. You see, even though it wasn't enforced, a criminal has to wonder.... "Is this one following the law?" Many teachers are already qualified and I suspect more would become. But as long as the school does not publish a list of those that can, and simply post a sign that says, "school personnel may be armed" I suspect it would have a huge affect Expand Do you really think an idiot like Nickolas Cruz was concerned whether a teacher had a handgun. Dude walked with with an AK47.... Jesus.
sodbuster Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/19/2018 at 12:42 AM, KW95 said: Do you really think an idiot like Nickolas Cruz was concerned whether a teacher had a handgun. Dude walked with with an AK47.... Jesus. Expand You shouldn't be ashamed to come out and say you know nothing about firearms. Everybody has knowledge gaps of some sort. 2
The_Dude Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 11:54 PM, Cinga said: Dude, your from Georgia I assume, or at least spent time there, so you must also be aware of Kennesaw law that requires all citizens to own firearms. The law is not enforced, but once they passed it the crime rate dropped tremendously. You see, even though it wasn't enforced, a criminal has to wonder.... "Is this one following the law?" Many teachers are already qualified and I suspect more would become. But as long as the school does not publish a list of those that can, and simply post a sign that says, "school personnel may be armed" I suspect it would have a huge affect Expand Bro...Kennesaw is also very upscale.
KW95 - JA17 Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/19/2018 at 12:49 AM, sodbuster said: You shouldn't be ashamed to come out and say you know nothing about firearms. Everybody has knowledge gaps of some sort. Expand Great comeback..You missed the point. Shocker!
Cinga Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/19/2018 at 12:55 AM, The_Dude said: Bro...Kennesaw is also very upscale. Expand Median household income for Kennesaw is half that of Parkland.
row_33 Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/19/2018 at 1:04 AM, Cinga said: Median household income for Kennesaw is half that of Parkland. Expand Pretty frickin fascinating
KW95 - JA17 Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 Oh the horror if no one had Guns! Many would feel naked and depressed!
sodbuster Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) On 2/19/2018 at 1:01 AM, KW95 said: Great comeback..You missed the point. Shocker! Expand By all means, explain it for me. Edited February 19, 2018 by sodbuster
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