Dorkington Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: 1. Tweets 2. Not the time to talk mental health and teen hardships 3. He's crazy (if white (if black, blame whites)) 4. He saw something on YouTube 5. Bully and ignore him 6. Repeat, ignore mental health You're an idiot How does a gun ban take guns away? Wanna take my guns (which I don't own any). Come ory them from my cold dead hands Like I said, it only happens if society is ready to agree to it. See Australia. 1
LeviF Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said: ...and you're proud of that post? Seriously? Do you get paid to miss the point, or is it more of a hobby? 1 minute ago, Dorkington said: The "easy" solution would be an aggressive gun ban. That'd take a lot of guns out of circulation. There'd still be a lot of 'illegal' guns, but it'd be a start. But that's not going to happen until we as a society agree to it, and we certainly don't at the moment. If we keep the same amount of firearms, the only way to lower the amount of these situations, is to have some comprehensive changes on the social safety net side of things, AND a general societal change where we are kinder to each other. And, again, neither of those are going to be changed anytime soon. So... thoughts and prayers it is. It sucks. It really !@#$ing sucks. But it's the price of "freedom", I guess. Move somewhere with a gun ban if you really hate it that much. But nah, leftists never put their money where their mouth is, they just want to destroy what's left of the liberties people fought and died for not even 250 years ago.
CommonCents Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, Justice said: Follow the playbook. That didn’t take long. 1. Prayers 2. Not the time to talk about gun control 3. He’s crazy (if white) 4. He saw some things on ISIS on the internet 5. Do nothing 6. Repeat Well if you are intrested in having an honest conversation the screen caps were taken before the Social Media sites shut down his profiles. "Allah Akbar", ISIS, and some Syrian resistance group on FB. So like it or not that stuff existed before nutzo went off and did what he did yesterday. So he can't bring a backpack to school? Why? Well isn't the answer obvious? He is kicked out of school? Kids at the school joke that he will be the one to shoot up the school? Talks about killing people and posts repeated pictures of killing animals. Praises Allah, ISIS He was holding a neon sign that said "IM !@#$ING NUTS" and NOONEDIDNUFFIN
LeviF Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Justice said: Lol. I’m the bigot in this equation? I simply come up with an idea to limit the amount of clips and ammo that are sold and this is where you choose to take it? You’re the bigot. Why is it that gun-grabbers are nearly always the ones that know the least about guns?
Justice Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: lol, yeah, whites are more violent because they managed to conquer the world despite making up a relatively small fraction of the population. Whatever dude. To me, this ain't about race. I'm glad the point of my post wasn't completely lost on you, but your conclusion is sad to me. I want all American citizens to enjoy the rights preserved for them in the Constitution, including any that happen to be Muslims. Stripping people's rights is always bad. I’m not talking about just conquering the world. I’m talking about Monday, or Tuesday, or any other day or any other year. Listen, I realize fully that there are thousands and thousands of evil Muslims out there. It’s obvious. The proof is there, but I constantly get attacked over it as if other people’s race isn’t the same or even worse.
Tiberius Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: Why is it that gun-grabbers are nearly always the ones that know the least about guns? What do ya need to know but that they can kill.
LeviF Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Justice said: Listen, I realize fully that there are thousands and thousands of evil Muslims out there. It’s obvious. The proof is there, but I constantly get attacked over it as if other people’s race isn’t the same or even worse. Oh, so the point of my post was lost on you. The point was to point out how ridiculous your idea actually sounds. That I should be put on some sort of watchlist for exercising my rights. I thought you might be more sensitive to that line of thinking.
Bob in Mich Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: Why is it that gun-grabbers are nearly always the ones that know the least about guns? Might be because many people don't give a crap about your hobby until it starts resulting people getting killed. If there was suddenly a string of lacrosse stick murders across the country I would start giving more thought to lacrosse sticks and how the murder spree could this be stopped. 1
Justice Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, LeviF91 said: Oh, so the point of my post was lost on you. The point was to point out how ridiculous your idea actually sounds. That I should be put on some sort of watchlist for exercising my rights. I thought you might be more sensitive to that line of thinking. Trust me. It wasn’t. I know what you’re getting at. I just think one has nothing to do with the other. I’m not taking away any rights. I’m not even banning guns. I just think a moderate amount of ammo and clips for assault rifles are necessary and should be put into law. 1
LeviF Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said: Might be because many people don't give a crap about your hobby Gonna stop you right there because you clearly don't understand the fundamental issue here.
boyst Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, Justice said: Lol. I’m the bigot in this equation? I simply come up with an idea to limit the amount of clips and ammo that are sold and this is where you choose to take it? You’re the bigot. Wait, what's a clip? 14 minutes ago, Dorkington said: Like I said, it only happens if society is ready to agree to it. See Australia. So, let's rip up our constitution and start again eh?
LeviF Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Justice said: Trust me. It wasn’t. I know what you’re getting at. I just think one has nothing to do with the other. I’m not taking away any rights. I’m not even banning guns. I just think a moderate amount of ammo and clips for assault rifles are necessary and should be put into law. So which part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand? Do we need to make comparisons to the fourth amendment in order for people to get it? What makes reading my email an unreasonable violation of my fourth amendment rights while putting me on a list due to my purchases and then limiting said purchases a reasonable infringement on my second amendment rights? Do you have any idea how much ammo I can go through in one hour at the range? Or in one week of training at the range with my department? 1
CommonCents Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 More. He wrote "I'm going to be a proffesional school shooter" and a screen grab was sent to the FBI back in September.
Bob in Mich Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Gonna stop you right there because you clearly don't understand the fundamental issue here. I have been in several gun threads before, including this one. I doubt I don't understand your issue.
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Justice said: 1. Whoever is in the business of selling those weapons. 2. Where in the constitution does it say you need an AR-15? 3. Damn right it’s ok. Who the hell needs mutilple clips? That's not how the Constitution works. The Constitution was designed as a cage around the government, limiting what the government is allowed to do, not on what the citizens are allowed to do. The Second Amendment says that the government "shall not infringe" on the people's right to keep and bear arms. "Shall not infringe". You're asking them to infringe. That would require a Constitutional Amendment, and after that it would require you to come and take away my ammunition. If you'd like to try, I have a very specific way I'll give it to you.
Chef Jim Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Dorkington said: Like I said, it only happens if society is ready to agree to it. See Australia. As I mentioned in the other thread. If you take away my guns how do I defend myself against the bad guys who have weapons who break into my home? Do I throw a chair at him? Try to hit him with a hammer? I have lots of knives and I’m real good with them. Maybe I can stab him while he’s shooting me? Have you ever lived in a high crime area?
Justice Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: So which part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand? Do we need to make comparisons to the fourth amendment in order for people to get it? What makes reading my email an unreasonable violation of my fourth amendment rights while putting me on a list due to my purchases and then limiting said purchases a reasonable infringement on my second amendment rights? Do you have any idea how much ammo I can go through in one hour at the range? Or in one week of training at the range with my department? In my original post I said you have to be able to prove how many bullets you went through before buying more. Gun ranges will have to be involved in the database. Receipts for proof. List how many bullets you walk in with and how many you leave with.
LeviF Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: I have been in several gun threads before, including this one. I doubt I don't understand your issue. Then you wouldn't have called it "your hobby," you would have said, "your rights," because clearly that's what you don't give a **** about.
Tiberius Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: As I mentioned in the other thread. If you take away my guns how do I defend myself against the bad guys who have weapons who break into my home? Do I throw a chair at him? Try to hit him with a hammer? I have lots of knives and I’m real good with them. Maybe I can stab him while he’s shooting me? Have you ever lived in a high crime area? Don't take away all guns, just military style weapons that can kill lots of people fast. They can figure that out and no I won't define anything for you
LeviF Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, Justice said: In my original post I said you have to be able to prove how many bullets you went through before buying more. Gun ranges will have to be involved in the database. Receipts for proof. List how many bullets you walk in with and how many you leave with. So you're really stuck on this whole database for the 72% of Americans who shoot guns. Got it. I'll keep that in mind.
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