truth on hold Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) http://www.nationalj...orried-20140728. grossman's comments are spot on. good one here too, the Jewish guy destroys the Shelly Adelson shrill Gingrich http://youtu.be/kEnUvSLnHig Edited July 29, 2014 by Joe_the_6_pack
birdog1960 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 good one here too, the Jewish guy destroys the Shelly Adelson shrill Gingrich http://youtu.be/kEnUvSLnHig wow,nute was neutered. "we're not occupying our neighbors. we're not occupying mexico and canada". neutered response:"but, um, well,..."
GG Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Which part of "unilateral withdrawal from Gaza in 2005" is the hard part to comprehend?
truth on hold Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) This just in, soldiers die in war. For other breaking news, email JtSP@ihatethosewarmongeringjews.net or follow him on twitter @whatrockets? 10 more for Netanyahu today ... and just look at the ages............ Jerusalem Post: 10 soldiers were killed on Monday Sergeant Daniel Kedmi, 18, of Tzofim; Sergeant Barkai Yishai Shor, 21, of Jerusalem; Sergeant Sagi Erez, 19, of Kiryat Ata; Sergeant Dor Dery, 18, of Jerusalem; Sgt. Nadav Raimond, 19, from Shadmot Dvora. http://www.jpost.com...ltration-369241 "The IDF released the names of soldiers late Monday night who were posthumously promoted. St.Sgt. Eliav Eliyahu Haim Kahlon, 22 of Safed; Private First Class Meidan Maymon Biton, 20 of Netivot; Private First Class Niran Cohen, 20 of Tiberias; and Sgt. First Class Adi Briga, 23 of Beit Shikma.St.-Sgt. Moshe Davino, 20" http://www.jpost.com...ltration-369241 So we have 20 year old kids dying while killing actual kids on playgrounds..........madness.... 10 Palestinians Killed as Israel Bombs Gaza Playground "GAZA CITY (Ma’an) — Israeli forces on Monday bombed a park near the beach in Gaza City killing at least 10 Palestinians including eight children on the first day of the Eid al-Fitr holiday, medics said. The strike on the park in al-Shati refugee camp — which reports suggested was a drone strike — hit the playground, killing 10 people, mostly children as they played with their families while wearing holiday clothes they had been given to celebrate the end of the holy Muslim month of Ramadan." http://www.globalres...yground/5393718 Edited July 29, 2014 by Joe_the_6_pack
birdog1960 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Which part of "unilateral withdrawal from Gaza in 2005" is the hard part to comprehend? the part where movements, trade and activities are so restricted that the people remain virtual prisoners in their own land.
GG Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 the part where movements, trade and activities are so restricted that the people remain virtual prisoners in their own land. Things were improving across the region until 2000. What happened? The blockade wasn't in effect until 2007, while Israel exited Gaza in 2005. What happened? Educate your sorry self, for a change.
birdog1960 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Things were improving across the region until 2000. What happened? The blockade wasn't in effect until 2007, while Israel exited Gaza in 2005. What happened? Educate your sorry self, for a change. http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/10/world/meast/israel-gaza-timeline/index.html. "2005....palestinians say israel maintains control over gaza through its grip on the skies, water and entry points. israel says such measures are necessary for security." Do you dispute this?
Jauronimo Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 http://www.cnn.com/2...line/index.html. "2005....palestinians say israel maintains control over gaza through its grip on the skies, water and entry points. israel says such measures are necessary for security." Do you dispute this? Do you?
GG Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 http://www.cnn.com/2...line/index.html. "2005....palestinians say israel maintains control over gaza through its grip on the skies, water and entry points. israel says such measures are necessary for security." Do you dispute this? Any reason you decided to exclude this passage from your quotes, which directly preceded the quotes you deemed necessary to include? After efforts to achieve peace talks failed, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon announced a plan to remove all Jewish settlements and Israeli troops from Gaza by the end of 2005. It was completed in September. Rocket attacks into Israel from Gaza continued.
3rdnlng Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 http://www.cnn.com/2...line/index.html. "2005....palestinians say israel maintains control over gaza through its grip on the skies, water and entry points. israel says such measures are necessary for security." Do you dispute this? I for one don't dispute that those measures were/are necessary for security.
B-Man Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 This should make the front page of the NYTimes any day now, no? Report: At least 160 children died digging Hamas’ tunnels Because of their size and agility, children make good tunnel-diggers. The English knew this when they were digging coal mines during the Victorian era; Hamas knows it now. Thus, the Journal of Palestine Studies (edited by President Obama’s pro-Palestinian friend Rashid Khalidi) reported in 2012 that Hamas uses children to help dig tunnels into Israel. The finding appears in a paper called Gaza’s Tunnel Phenomenon: The Unintended Dynamics of Israel’s Siege. The author of the paper, Nicolas Pelham accompanied a police patrol in Gaza during December 2011. He reported that “nothing was done to impede the use of children in the tunnels, where, much as in Victorian coal mines, they are prized for their nimble bodies.” He also found that “at least 160 children have been killed in the tunnels, according to Hamas officials.” And, as noted, this was as of the end of 2011. How many more Palestinian children have died digging tunnels for Hamas since then? Original Article
Jauronimo Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) nope. prisoners in their own land. They democratically elected their jailers. Edited July 29, 2014 by Jauronimo
birdog1960 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 They democratically elected their jailers. no, they didn't elect the people that control their skies, water and entry points.
GG Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 no, they didn't elect the people that control their skies, water and entry points. They elected the people who directly impact their neighbors' actions. Since you like to ride the moral high horse, why has Egypt re-instituted the blockade?
Jauronimo Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 no, they didn't elect the people that control their skies, water and entry points. So the people of Gaza are in no way responsible for their own actions? Israel bears responsibility not only for their own actions but those of Gaza and Hamas too?
birdog1960 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) They elected the people who directly impact their neighbors' actions. Since you like to ride the moral high horse, why has Egypt re-instituted the blockade? regardless of who they have elected, israel hasn't relinquished control over those. Do you believe their is anyone among their people that they could elect that would persuade israel to do that? i don't. i bet the palestineans don't either. Edited July 29, 2014 by birdog1960
GG Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 regardless of who they have elected, israel hasn't relinquished control over those. Do you believe their is anyone among their people that they could elect that would persuade israel to do that? i don't. i bet the palestineans don't either. Lasting peace with Egypt & Jordan says that your theory is wrong. Improving relationships with Palestinians until Arafat's suicidal strategy in 2000 says that your theory is wrong. No ground invasion in West Bank says that your theory is wrong. It should just be a given that whatever you post on the matter is going to be wrong.
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) regardless of who they have elected, israel hasn't relinquished control over those. Do you believe their is anyone among their people that they could elect that would persuade israel to do that? i don't. i bet the palestineans don't either. When your central focus, since the very beginings of your existance, has been not only hostile, but the total eradication of your neighbor, denying their very right to exist; you don't get a whole lot of latitude. As GG has stated, Egypt and Jordan make you wrong. It is not for Israel to offer the Palestinians, time and time again, the opportunity to prove they can be a peaceful neighbor, without affording themselves protections that the Palestinian people have shown them, time and time again, are necessary. It is for the Palestinians to reap what they have sown, and prove to Israel that they can be non only a peaceful neighbor, but a true partner in peace, earning back for themselves what they have forfiet in their decades of war-making. If they cannot do this, then they deserve nothing, and Israel should sweep them into the sea. Edited July 29, 2014 by TakeYouToTasker
birdog1960 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 When your central focus, since the very beginings of your existance, has been not only hostile, but the total eradication of your neighbor, denying their very right to exist; you don't get a whole lot of latitude. As GG has stated, Egypt and Jordan make you wrong. It is not for Israel to offer the Palestinians, time and time again, the opportunity to prove they can be a peaceful neighbor, without affording themselves protections that the Palestinian people have shown them, time and time again, are necessary. It is for the Palestinians to reap what they have sown, and prove to Israel that they can be non only a peaceful neighbor, but a true partner in peace, earning back for themselves what they have forfiet in their decades of war-making. If they cannot do this, then they deserve nothing, and Israel should sweep them into the sea. yeah. that sentiment seems fairly common among zionists. finally, it's becoming much less tolerable among many in the rest of the world.
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