FireChan Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 What are you talking about you idiot? Israel doesn't fight any battle for us .... We're not at war with Hamas or syria. We fight theirs, directly in places like Iraq, indirectly in syria, at great cost. This vague "foothold" notion you toss around means nothing. Someone doesn't understand tactical advantages, or the definition of maintain. That someone is you.
Jauronimo Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 What are you talking about you idiot? Israel doesn't fight any battle for us .... We're not at war with Hamas or syria. We fight theirs, directly in places like Iraq, indirectly in syria, at great cost. This vague "foothold" notion you toss around means nothing. I suppose Iranian scientists are just blowing themselves up? Hezbollah, you say? Never heard of them. Israel fights enemies of ours everyday.
truth on hold Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) I suppose Iranian scientists are just blowing themselves up? Hezbollah, you say? Never heard of them. Israel fights enemies of ours everyday. Hezbollah has absolutely nothing to do with us. Nothing. Iran has no nuclear weapons program (more netanyahu propaganda), and poses no threat to us. As a matter of fact wed have better relationship with them already if Israelis would stop trying to sabotage it. Israel only creates "enemies" for us in the region. They act in their own selfish self interest. Its well past time we act in ours Edited July 15, 2014 by Joe_the_6_pack
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 Hezbollah has absolutely nothing to do with us. Nothing. Iran has no nuclear weapons program (more netanyahu propaganda), and poses no threat to us. As a matter of fact wed have better relationship with them already if Israelis would stop trying to sabotage it. Israel only creates "enemies" for us in the region. They act in their own selfish self interest. Its well past time we act in ours Hezbollah declares the United States an enemy and has acted violently against US interests (and citizens) multiple times in the past. How does that qualify them as having "absolutely nothing to do with us,"?
DC Tom Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 What are you talking about you idiot? Israel doesn't fight any battle for us .... We're not at war with Hamas or syria. We fight theirs, directly in places like Iraq, indirectly in syria, at great cost. This vague "foothold" notion you toss around means nothing. Don't we have an embargo against Gaza and Syria? Aren't you the retard who argued that that constitutes warfare several pages back?
meazza Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 Hezbollah declares the United States an enemy and has acted violently against US interests (and citizens) multiple times in the past. How does that qualify them as having "absolutely nothing to do with us,"? They leave out those specific details in Russian youtube videos.
truth on hold Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 Don't we have an embargo against Gaza and Syria? Aren't you the retard who argued that that constitutes warfare several pages back? Actually I was using TTT's logic, which Ive made clear several times. And when he kept back tracking, then I presented the hypothetical about Palis getting hold of Israeli's nukes in Dimona instead, which of course he fell back into the familiar patterns of "palis are the aggressors" and modifying his "philosophy" of total destruction only when you're not the aggressor. But hey Arent you the one who said economic acts arent warfare? So then you agree we're not at war with either. That, along with agreeing the line about "Israel being the only democracy" is "retarded" (your words) ... maybe there's hope for you!
Deranged Rhino Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 They leave out those specific details in Russian youtube videos. Ahhh.
truth on hold Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 Hezbollah declares the United States an enemy and has acted violently against US interests (and citizens) multiple times in the past. How does that qualify them as having "absolutely nothing to do with us,"? Why dont you list all these declarations and violent acts, then we can examine what was said or not said, done or not done.
Deranged Rhino Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 Why dont you list all these declarations and violent acts, then we can examine what was said or not said, done or not done. Start with the 1983 bombings in Beirut and the 241 dead Marines. Move on to Buckley's kidnapping, torture, and murder. Or Higgins in '88,
DC Tom Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 Actually I was using TTT's logic, which Ive made clear several times. And when he kept back tracking, then I presented the hypothetical about Palis getting hold of Israeli's nukes in Dimona instead, which of course he fell back into the familiar patterns of "palis are the aggressors" and modifying his "philosophy" of total destruction only when you're not the aggressor. No, actually you were referring to the Jews declaring war on Germany in 1933 via an economic embargo. No one else even came close to suggesting the equivalence. But hey Arent you the one who said economic acts arent warfare? So then you agree we're not at war with either. That, along with agreeing the line about "Israel being the only democracy" is "retarded" (your words) ... maybe there's hope for you! I never said any such thing. I asked you to validate your dumbass statement, by asking if you thought the attack on Pearl Harbor (and the DEI, and Malaysia, and the Philippines, for that matter) were justified by the American attack on Japan in July 1941 via the oil embargo? You never answered...likely, given the available evidence, because you're functionally illiterate.
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Actually I was using TTT's logic, which Ive made clear several times. And when he kept back tracking, then I presented the hypothetical about Palis getting hold of Israeli's nukes in Dimona instead, which of course he fell back into the familiar patterns of "palis are the aggressors" and modifying his "philosophy" of total destruction only when you're not the aggressor. But hey Arent you the one who said economic acts arent warfare? So then you agree we're not at war with either. That, along with agreeing the line about "Israel being the only democracy" is "retarded" (your words) ... maybe there's hope for you! You think you're using my logic? You think I've backtracked? Source it. You should stick to your ridiculous gun tirades, where atleast you're only flat retarded on one continent. Idiot.. Edited July 16, 2014 by TakeYouToTasker
DC Tom Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 You think you're using my logic? You think I've backtracked? Source it. Retard. That he thinks he's using logic of any sort is puzzling.
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 That he thinks he's using logic of any sort is puzzling. That he thinks he's using logic of any sort is offensive. Or would be if he weren't... well... him.
DC Tom Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 That he thinks he's using logic of any sort is offensive. Or would be if he weren't... well... him. It's not offensive. It's cute. Like watching a little kid play dress-up in mommie's high heels.
meazza Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 That he thinks he's using logic of any sort is offensive. Or would be if he weren't... well... him. He once accused me of threatening him via PM IIRC and bragged how he read "alternative news sources" which made him much more informed on subjects
truth on hold Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 Start with the 1983 bombings in Beirut and the 241 dead Marines. Move on to Buckley's kidnapping, torture, and murder. Or Higgins in '88, yeah so we stick a bunch of marines in the middle of a conflict and expect nothing to happen? kidding me?!!!! Even Reagan said "screw it, that's enough" after that and got all our troops out of harm's way ... he learned the hard way supporting Israel ain't worth it
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 It's not offensive. It's cute. Like watching a little kid play dress-up in mommie's high heels. Like I said: If it weren't him.
DC Tom Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 yeah so we stick a bunch of marines in the middle of a conflict and expect nothing to happen? kidding me?!!!! Even Reagan said "screw it, that's enough" after that and got all our troops out of harm's way ... he learned the hard way supporting Israel ain't worth it Yeah, Reagan really abandoned Israel. No friend of Israel, he was. What color is the sky in your world?
Deranged Rhino Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 yeah so we stick a bunch of marines in the middle of a conflict and expect nothing to happen? kidding me?!!!! Even Reagan said "screw it, that's enough" after that and got all our troops out of harm's way ... he learned the hard way supporting Israel ain't worth it That's certainly an original way to look at it.
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