Mark Vader Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Aaron Maybin. I hated it when the Bills picked him. He should have stayed at Penn State another year. I knew he would not be an instant impact player. He was far too small to be an NFL DE, and he did not have the instincts to play OLB.
maddenboy Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Well, if we're going with all-time Bills, then I seriously need to just kill this thread. Sorry. Jim Kelly. Correctly rated as the best Bill ever. Like ever.
Peace Frog Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Pretty much everybody now agrees that Trent was over-rated by Bill Walsh, so if you want to nominate Trent, you should do it in the "over-rated" thread. Besides, they play the Pro Bowl in Hawaii, not AZ. I was correcting you, who said when Fitz took a hit by an AZ safety. Trent took the hit you spoke of. I wasn't nominating Trent. Hence, the research comment. I did, however, nominate Cordy Glenn for this thread. He is correctly rated, IMO. Why you would be comparing Cordy Glenn, a left tackle (LT) to Lawrence Taylor or LaDainian Tomlinson is also beyond me.
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted June 30, 2014 Author Posted June 30, 2014 I was correcting you, who said when Fitz took a hit by an AZ safety. Trent took the hit you spoke of. I wasn't nominating Trent. Hence, the research comment. I did, however, nominate Cordy Glenn for this thread. He is correctly rated, IMO. Why you would be comparing Cordy Glenn, a left tackle (LT) to Lawrence Taylor or LaDainian Tomlinson is also beyond me. Sorry if I missed quoting you. But maybe you missed the part where I said I agreed with you about Cordy Glenn. Gotta admit, though, that now I'm having second thoughts. I don't think most nollidgible posters believe Maybin was correctly rated, but do you think Cordy Glenn is more correctly rated than Jim Kelly?
machine gun kelly Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 My vote is Eric Wood. He has a reputation as a very good Center, not all pro, but not bad.
BringBackFergy Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Sorry if I missed quoting you. But maybe you missed the part where I said I agreed with you about Cordy Glenn. Gotta admit, though, that now I'm having second thoughts. I don't think most nollidgible posters believe Maybin was correctly rated, but do you think Cordy Glenn is more correctly rated than Jim Kelly? Not even close, Jim Kelly is the most rated player ever to don a Bills uniphorm.
Kirby Jackson Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Moorman in a negative way. It seems like everyone realizes what the OP said that he is washed up. He was great for years but no more. On a more positive note Nickell Robey. He's the perfect slot corner. Robey is quick, a good tackler and blitzer. I think that he is a good player in that role and it doesn't seem like people are clamouring for more. Often times, when guys have rookie years like that we start hearing how he's the next Patrick Peterson or whatever. People seem to be optimistic about Robey but realistic.
Beerball Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 I don't like that the OP has opened this up to present, former & future players. People tend to get confused when this is done. That said, I'll give an answer for each Bill Bills Past: OJ...he was a slasher Bills Present: Kiko Alonso (I dare you to argue this selection) Bills Future: Brett Hundley
BringBackFergy Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 I don't like that the OP has opened this up to present, former & future players. People tend to get confused when this is done. That said, I'll give an answer for each Bill Bills Past: OJ...he was a slasher Bills Present: Kiko Alonso (I dare you to argue this selection) Bills Future: Brett Hundley The defenders always gave good chase but they could never get their mitts around him.
Homey D. Clown Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Aaron Maybin and 'Lil Donte. Both are never has beens. Just one of them was unfairly given more playing time than the other.
truth on hold Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Chandler. No one thinks of him as a pro bowler , but at same time people appreciate he can be a valuable option game in, game out, a solid 600 yards, 6 TD's kind of guy, that if the other team forgets about can hurt you. Edited June 30, 2014 by Joe_the_6_pack
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted June 30, 2014 Author Posted June 30, 2014 Chandler. No one thinks of him as a pro bowler , but at same time people appreciate he can be a valuable option game in, game out, a solid 600 yards, 6 TD's kind of guy, that if the other team forgets about can hurt you. Scott or Bobby? Maybe Beerball's right about the time aspect of the question.
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted June 30, 2014 Author Posted June 30, 2014 . . . Bills Present: Kiko Alonso (I dare you to argue this selection) . . . You may be right, but personally I'm gonna wait and see how he responds if he ever takes a huge hit in the Pro Bowl from some all-world guard or tackle. If he responds to the big hit like Moorman did, that would make me think that Alonso's over-rated. If you're gonna be correctly rated as a Pro Bowler, ya gotta be able to shake off a big hit, regardless of how much the Japanese TV announcers talk about it.
truth on hold Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Scott or Bobby? Maybe Beerball's right about the time aspect of the question. Scott
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Well, if we're going with all-time Bills, then I seriously need to just kill this thread. Sorry. Jim Kelly. Correctly rated as the best Bill ever. Like ever. Bruce smith disagrees
Dibs Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Chandler. No one thinks of him as a pro bowler , but at same time people appreciate he can be a valuable option game in, game out, a solid 600 yards, 6 TD's kind of guy, that if the other team forgets about can hurt you. I agree with that assessment but have noticed a large number of people tend to rate him very much below that......thus making him commonly incorrectly rated.
Mark Vader Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Sorry if I missed quoting you. But maybe you missed the part where I said I agreed with you about Cordy Glenn. Gotta admit, though, that now I'm having second thoughts. I don't think most nollidgible posters believe Maybin was correctly rated, but do you think Cordy Glenn is more correctly rated than Jim Kelly? A lot of posters here were furious over the Maybin pick, and rightly so. I'd say they were very nollidgible.
3rdand12 Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Andy Legursky....not sure why we ever let him and Chas Rhinegold leave. All Pro O-linemen don't grow on trees. They were rated above average and their performance post-Bills drives the nail in our coughin. Damn those all pro limeman and there nails and our coughings! I have a signed Chuck L. Rhinegarten jersey around here somewheres. Yep. I met him. and he signed it . Thats no **** Dont doubt me.
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted July 1, 2014 Author Posted July 1, 2014 A lot of posters here were furious over the Maybin pick, and rightly so. I'd say they were very nollidgible. Well I guess that means there were at least a few non-nollidgible posters who liked the Maybin pick when it was made, which would certainly make Maybin uncommonly incorrectly rated. But if Jim Kelly was even less uncommonly incorrectly rated, wouldn't that make Kelly more correctly rated than Maybin? At least that's how my brother Darryl sees it.
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