zonabb Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Should just get rid of cheerleaders entirely. +1. It's so childish and ridiculous. Time to grow up Peaked in High School Cheerleaders.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 NFL seeks dismissal of lawsuit by former Buffalo Jills over wages [1:57 AM]Buffalo News reports
djp14150 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 NFL seeks dismissal of lawsuit by former Buffalo Jills over wages [1:57 AM] Buffalo News reports Lets be clear---this isnt seeking a dismissal of the entire suit but only the part that the NFL(the league, not the individual teams) is at fault. the suit still goes on if the NFL is removed from it.
Nanker Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) With apologies to 89, and all the other sweet women who once were Jills, can we please move on? I don't get how an activities club could sue a team for "wages" when every marching band and Drum and Bugle corps practices at least as much and does a lot more than a bunch of women in short skirts and pompoms. Where are their letters of employment? Were they under contract? What amount of federal, state, and local taxes did they pay from their "wages"? Did their "employer" contribute to Social Security and Medicare as all employers are required to? If I were the judge in this case, I'd want to know some facts around that. Please, let us have seen the last of the "Buffalo Jills". Yech, what a mess! Edited March 11, 2015 by Nanker
CodeMonkey Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Tampa Bay Bucs pay big dollars to settle cheerleader lawsuit The Buccaneers have confirmed that the team has paid $825,000 to settle a class action filed on behalf of 94 current and former employees of the squad. TMZ first reported the resolution, which will pay the lawyers $264,000 and the class members $561,000. That works out to an average of $5,968 per person. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/07/bucs-pay-big-dollars-to-settle-cheerleader-lawsuit/ (doesn't seem like big dollars to me). Per cheerleader, no. But $264,000 to probably 1 lawyer who paid a couple paralegals to do the actual work, it's not bad coin.
bbb Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 With apologies to 89, and all the other sweet women who once were Jills, can we please move on? I don't get how an activities club could sue a team for "wages" when every marching band and Drum and Bugle corps practices at least as much and does a lot more than a bunch of women in short skirts and pompoms. Where are their letters of employment? Were they under contract? What amount of federal, state, and local taxes did they pay from their "wages"? Did their "employer" contribute to Social Security and Medicare as all employers are required to? If I were the judge in this case, I'd want to know some facts around that. Please, let us have seen the last of the "Buffalo Jills". Yech, what a mess! I never knew 89 was a Jill. (searching for pictures of 89....)
Nanker Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I never knew 89 was a Jill. (searching for pictures of 89....) She rarely posts here any more. She's one of the nicest people. I've never met her, but would love to one day.
bbb Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 She rarely posts here any more. She's one of the nicest people. I've never met her, but would love to one day. Yeah, I remember her well. I wish she would post here again.
Clippers of Nfl Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Should just get rid of cheerleaders entirely. No! Let's get rid of baggy pants on women and tight @ pants on guys!!!! But get rid of cheerleaders.... That doesnt even makes sense to me. Like it doesnt register in my brain. Cells are trying to make the connection, but my brain doesnt allow it. You would have to lobotimize me so my brain can process this!!!! +1. It's so childish and ridiculous. Time to grow up Peaked in High School Cheerleaders. Dude throwing darts in a bar is childish. But I do it anyway.
EasternOHBillsFan Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I never knew 89 was a Jill. (searching for pictures of 89....) I met her back in 1999... exactly what I'd expect for any Bills fan... energetic, fun, boisterous, full of spirit.
Best Player Available Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 twice last season before the Vikes And Pats* games. we saw Some of the Buf State female cheerleaders in the lots doing what they do. Cheering! way better than the Jills and everyone was a cutie. And a lot of fun to tailgate with.
bbb Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 College cheerleaders are way better than pro. I hate those boots that all the pro teams wear
26CornerBlitz Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 @WGRZ Judge denies NFL's motion to dismiss #Buffalo Jills lawsuit #Bills http://www.wgrz.com/story/news/local/2015/05/04/buffalo-jills-lawsuit-bills/26891883/
ToGoGo Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 My opinion on this varies. 1) First off, let's not act like they bring no value at all. They're attractive and they're nice to look at in between plays, which is worth something. Playing eye tag with cheerleaders is a tradition on every level and a football game without cheerleaders is a little weird. If they brought nothing to the table then they wouldn't be at the games at all. Nobody forces girls to do it. If you have a problem with "society encouraging it", then that's a different argument. 2) They are technically independent contractors, but they could just as easily be employees. If you're paying them, then you need to pay them fairly. The NFL has done a good job distancing themselves from this by hiring contractors instead of having them on the payroll ("The Giants respect women" LMAO what an amazing PR team). 3) I know a few former Jills and girls who have tried out for the Jills. They don't do it for the money or as a job. They do it to be called a Jill. There's a social prestige that comes with that. More likes on Facebook, more jealous looks from girls, more male attention, more promotion gigs on Chippewa. There's a reason the pay is so low yet the demand remains high. There is plenty of value there for the girls outside money. 4) My thought process on this is that the actual job is not degrading to women because the girls enjoy the benefits that come with it, otherwise they would not do it. Nobody forces them to do it. However, the contractors seem to be on a power trip because they know how valuable a spot on the Jills is and how much sh*t the girls are willing to eat to get it. That said, as long as they are getting paid at least minimum wage and they are not being overworked or breaking labor laws, let them do what they want.
Mike in Horseheads Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Must be Celino and Barnes ambulance chasers caught up to these women. This is nonsense.
jumbalaya Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 With apologies to 89, and all the other sweet women who once were Jills, can we please move on? I don't get how an activities club could sue a team for "wages" when every marching band and Drum and Bugle corps practices at least as much and does a lot more than a bunch of women in short skirts and pompoms. Where are their letters of employment? Were they under contract? What amount of federal, state, and local taxes did they pay from their "wages"? Did their "employer" contribute to Social Security and Medicare as all employers are required to? If I were the judge in this case, I'd want to know some facts around that. Please, let us have seen the last of the "Buffalo Jills". Yech, what a mess! The Marching bands represent their schools not the Bills, that is pretty freaking clear. The Jills represent the Bills. It is more than obvious that the claim made by the Jills is both a valid claim and one that should include the NFL. Under Goodell a team can do nothing without approval from League HQ, unless you are Jimmy Jones or Robert Kraft.
reddogblitz Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 I don't get how an activities club could sue a team for "wages" when every marching band and Drum and Bugle corps practices at least as much and does a lot more than ... When I played on the Seattle Seahawks Drumline, we got paid ("Wages") to practice.
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