ChanOverChin Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I saw this final 53 man roster projection on another site and thought it was pretty close to accurate: 2QB-EJ Manuel, Thad Lewis 4RB-CJ Spiller, Fred Jackson, Bryce Brown, Anthony Dixon 1FB-Frank Summers 6WR-Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods, Mike Williams, Marquise Goodwin, Marcus Easley, Chris Hogan 3TE-Scott Chandler, Tony Moeaki, Lee Smith 4OT-Cordy Glenn, Cyrus Koundjio, Seantrel Henderson, Chris Hairston 4OG-Cyril Richardson, Chris Williams, J.J. Unga, Kraig Urbik 1C-Eric Wood 2LE-Mario Williams, Jairus Wynn 2RE-Jerry Hughes, Manny Lawson 2DT-Kyle Williams, Stefan Charles 2NT-Marcel Dareus, Alan Branch 2ROLB-Kiko Alonso, Ty Powell 2MLB-Brandon Spikes, Preston Brown 2LOLB-Keith Rivers, Nigel Bradham 6CB-Leodis McKelvin, Stephon Gilmore, Nickell Robey, Corey Graham, Ron Brooks, Ross Cockrell 4S-Aaron Williams, Da'Norris Searcy, Duke Williams, Jonathan Meeks 2K-Dustin Hopkins, Dan Carpenter 1P-Brian Moorman 1LS-Garrison Sanborn Unless somebody really surprises, the Bills don't really have many strong contenders to these guys. QB: Tuel has a shot, but he'd just be holding a clipboard. RB: No true contender to this group. FB: Summers is a tank. TE: Gragg has an outside shot, but Moeaki is far more talented and accomplished. WR: Graham/Elliott/Bardin will challenge, but ultimately Easley is a stud on ST and Hogan is a very, very good possession receiver. Don't need Graham with Goodwin on the roster. OL: If the Bills keep nine OLs then Legursky could beat out Unga, but I like Unga at this point. K/P/LS: If healthy, Hopkins is going to make the team. Moorman makes it, but he's not the punter that he used to be. DT: Bryant has a shot, but I like Charles better. DE: No real contenders. LB: No real contenders. CB: No real contenders. S: I do think that Ladler could unseat Meeks. Meeks vs Ladler will be one of the training camp battles to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I just can't agree with keeping 2 kickers...not convinced Manuel and Lewis can stay healthy..would consider 3 QB's. A number of these guys are PS eligible,like Henderson Richardson, Cockrell,etc. I wouldn't write off Pears and Legursky. Hairston isn't 100% and I cant see going into the season with 3 rookie OL. What's Unga every done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 What makes Hogan a "very, very good possession receiver?" Is it: A) His 10 career NFL catches B) His 83 NFL yards or C) His 12 catches at Monmouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I do think Hogan will make the team because he is a camp hero. I hope they can somehow find a spot for Kevin Elliott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 No way do the Bills go with just 2 QB's. I don't think Frank Summers stays, since Anthony Dixon can do what he does. I wouldn't rule out Mark Asper sticking around as a back-up O-Lineman. Would not be surprised if we keep 2 Kickers. I still think that Da'Norris Searcy will be a surprise cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Pretty close. We will keep 3 qbs- maybe have Dixon at FB, drop summers, add QB Graham over Hogan. Ladler over Meeks. Deepest roster the Bills have had since the early 90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I saw this final 53 man roster projection on another site and thought it was pretty close to accurate: 2QB-EJ Manuel, Thad Lewis 4RB-CJ Spiller, Fred Jackson, Bryce Brown, Anthony Dixon 1FB-Frank Summers 6WR-Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods, Mike Williams, Marquise Goodwin, Marcus Easley, Chris Hogan 3TE-Scott Chandler, Tony Moeaki, Lee Smith 4OT-Cordy Glenn, Cyrus Koundjio, Seantrel Henderson, Chris Hairston 4OG-Cyril Richardson, Chris Williams, J.J. Unga, Kraig Urbik 1C-Eric Wood 2LE-Mario Williams, Jairus Wynn 2RE-Jerry Hughes, Manny Lawson 2DT-Kyle Williams, Stefan Charles 2NT-Marcel Dareus, Alan Branch 2ROLB-Kiko Alonso, Ty Powell 2MLB-Brandon Spikes, Preston Brown 2LOLB-Keith Rivers, Nigel Bradham 6CB-Leodis McKelvin, Stephon Gilmore, Nickell Robey, Corey Graham, Ron Brooks, Ross Cockrell 4S-Aaron Williams, Da'Norris Searcy, Duke Williams, Jonathan Meeks 2K-Dustin Hopkins, Dan Carpenter 1P-Brian Moorman 1LS-Garrison Sanborn I don't see them keeping 2 kickers. Carpenter is fine for kickoffs. Definitely need to keep a 3rd QB. Tuel and Dixon will battle for that job. I don't see any need to keep a FB with Boobie Dixon in the fold. I think Frank the tank is released. I think Kevin Elliott makes it over Hogan. I also think Lee Smith gets cut in favor of Gragg. Smith is a good blocker, but not much else. We have enough "beef" on the offensive line that we don't need him for power packages. Just my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 No way do the Bills go with just 2 QB's. I don't think Frank Summers stays, since Anthony Dixon can do what he does. I wouldn't rule out Mark Asper sticking around as a back-up O-Lineman. Would not be surprised if we keep 2 Kickers. I still think that Da'Norris Searcy will be a surprise cut. I read that Tuel is Practice Squad eligible per Chris Brown. I don't know how much value he would add to another team in them trying to sign him off there because I believe one reason the Bills keep him around is his knowledge of the system. He has the most experience in this offense of any of the QBs on the roster. If he is indeed eligible, I wonder if they take a chance and put him on the PS to free up a spot. Searcy would definitely be a surprise to me if cut.Agree with Dixon over Summers and that they could hang onto Hopkins as a KO specialist since they are so dialed into improving the ST. Just read he looked good in minicamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Why do you think Moorman makes it? Dombrowski has a cannon for a leg. You acknowledge Moorman had lost some but then cut a solid replacement. Is it just name familiarity you're going by? All punters start off as nobodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 I think we're going to be pleasantly surpised by Hogan. Every team in the league needs a player who catches everything in sight in order to move the sticks. The writing is on the wall for Pears and his somewhat large salary. He's also one of the oldest guys on the roster. He'll be gone just as soon as the Bills reach a comfort level with Kouandjio and Henderson. Hairston is healthy again and considered to be starting caliber. Marrone likes him so much that he's trying to fit him in wherever possible on the starting O-line. He could be the starter at RG. At the very worst he would be the backup LT/RT. What has Unga done??............ What has Legursky done?? All the Bills seemed to do last year was look for ways to replace Legursky in the starting lineup. Unga is far from a sure thing and is certainly a bubble player. He would be one of my bottom three at this point. Legursky vs Unga will be an interesting competition to watch. Keeping only Manuel and Lewis doesn't sit well with me either, but why keep a third guy like Tuel when you could pick up a vet on the street who is better than him?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 The only problem with having two QBs on the roster is when the second is Jeff Tuel. We can stash him on the PS if he is indeed eligible and call him up later if we have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) OP lost me at "hogan is a very very good possession receiver" Then I came back later and gave OP a second chance on his next post. This proved foolish when he said hogan "catches everything in site" Edited June 20, 2014 by FluffHead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I think we're going to be pleasantly surpised by Hogan. Every team in the league needs a player who catches everything in sight in order to move the sticks. The writing is on the wall for Pears and his somewhat large salary. He's also one of the oldest guys on the roster. He'll be gone just as soon as the Bills reach a comfort level with Kouandjio and Henderson. Hairston is healthy again and considered to be starting caliber. Marrone likes him so much that he's trying to fit him in wherever possible on the starting O-line. He could be the starter at RG. At the very worst he would be the backup LT/RT. What has Unga done??............ What has Legursky done?? All the Bills seemed to do last year was look for ways to replace Legursky in the starting lineup. Unga is far from a sure thing and is certainly a bubble player. He would be one of my bottom three at this point. Legursky vs Unga will be an interesting competition to watch. Keeping only Manuel and Lewis doesn't sit well with me either, but why keep a third guy like Tuel when you could pick up a vet on the street who is better than him?? If one was available who was clearly better and available for a 3rd QB salary, sure. But he'll need to learn the offense which other QBs they have brought in (Matt Flynn) could not do and Tuel could. The 3rd QB needs to actually be helpful in the film room, not a guy they need to spend a ton of time bringing up to speed. If a guy like Matt Hasselbeck gets cut - sure. An experienced vet who has been a successful starter and won playoff games and can be a mentor. But he won't get cut because he is serving this role for Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 Summers is too valuable on ST to just throw him aside in favor of Dixon at FB. He's a blocker and a tackler on ST who can be a difference-maker. There will be guys who will be selected primarily to play ST....Summers is one of those guys. Anything he gives on on offense is gravy. Guys like A. Dixon, C. Graham, Easley, Summers, Bradham, Pollard, P. Brown, Du. Williams - these guys will be the core of the ST. I'm going with Moorman right now because he is a proven player and D-ski is not, but I'll admit that Moorman looked quite shaky last year. He's definitely not a lock to make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) OP lost me at "hogan is a very very good possession receiver" Then I came back later and gave OP a second chance on his next post. This proved foolish when he said hogan "catches everything in site" We have the guy that "catches everything in site" -Sammy Watkins. Hogan has 22 catches since 2010 in college and the pros combined!! Everyone knows that I am not a fan but someone tell me what I am missing? The guy is good in shorts, running against air, so what? He is a waste of a roster spot if kept. Edited June 20, 2014 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) We have the guy that "catches everything in site" -Sammy Watkins. Hogan has 22 catches since 2010 in college and the pros combined!! Everyone knows that I am not a fan but someone tell me what I am missing? The guy is good in shorts, running against air, so what? He is a waste of a roster spot if kept. The only reason why he continues to always look good in camp and never anywhere that counts is because of RVA drills and no-contact from DBs in OTAs. Get him in a real game and see how he does against press coverage and making contested catches where elite athleticism and playmaking ability wins. I have no doubt that he works hard and knows the playbook backward and forward, things that will help him look great in OTAs but once the season starts the cream rises to the top and the other guys will know the plays just as well. Edited June 20, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Does anyone else think that it is amazing that nearly everyone on here agrees that TJ Graham is finished. Not even a mention of Graham, and Hogan is the next Wes Welker. Ha! Disclaimer: I think TJ Graham will be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 Nobody said that Hogan was one of our top WRs. He's listed exactly sixth on the WR depth chart. No, he's not W. Welker, but he's shown pretty well so far both this year and last year. This is the kind of guy that you're supposed to root for, not shiiiiitttt on. So far, he has outplayed Elliott/Bardin/Easley/Williams/Graham, which is why he has been projected where he is. When one or more of those guys outplays him then he'll deserve to be moved to the back of the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Does anyone else think that it is amazing that nearly everyone on here agrees that TJ Graham is finished. Not even a mention of Graham, and Hogan is the next Wes Welker. Ha! Disclaimer: I think TJ Graham will be cut. TJ Graham has made some plays in the NFL and has one elite NFL skill (speed). He may not be more than a guy that you chuck it up to every so often but he offers more than Hogan. If he catches 3 balls over the top and draws 2 PIs because of his speed that is 5 big plays that will help the team. I am not saying that the guy is perfect (or even good) but he at least helps the team. I don't know why you would waste a spot on Hogan instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Does anyone else think that it is amazing that nearly everyone on here agrees that TJ Graham is finished. Not even a mention of Graham, and Hogan is the next Wes Welker. Ha! Disclaimer: I think TJ Graham will be cut. Graham was all speed and no hands and Hogan hasn't done anything measurable in either his college or professional career. They should cut both of them. I would be shocked if the team kept 2 kickers. Just not necessary when this team needs to be scoring touchdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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