26CornerBlitz Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Is this really something that the Federal Government needs to be involved in? Name calling? Sticks and stones........ Yuck! What a bunch of 98lb. weaklings we have become. Do you have any understanding of US Patent and Trademark Law?
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Is this really something that the Federal Government needs to be involved in? Name calling? Sticks and stones........ Yuck! What a bunch of 98lb. weaklings we have become. Exactly!!! We need more slurs! Let's call women female dogs and see you next tuesdays! All gay people are a bunch of sticks! Bring back the n word! The government is oppressing my right as a old white guy to be as ignorant as I want! The horror!
kickedface Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 if its so offensive why haven't people stopped buying the merch? i suppose they could change the teams name to the washington savages or scalpers and keep the colors and logo. or if that's still too offensive they could just switch the name to the washinton whiteys. white people have no right to get offended so you'd never hear anything about it. i do find everyone getting butt hurt about everything ridiculous and figure if people want things to change then do it the easy way, get the majority to agree with it, not FIVE people who the claim was made in the name of.
Captain Caveman Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 So another team could change its name to the Redskins and there's nothing Washington can do about it. Or even all other 31 teams. Redskins @ Redskins (every game) Not exactly what the protestors wanted ! I'm sure all 31 teams are rushing to do so.
Dorkington Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Here's my rather simple opinion/breakdown - Team names change all the time, but the team (generally) still remains. Washington won't be moving anywhere, the players won't all disappear, sundays will still be "fun"days. So changing the name? No big deal. - The name "redskin" is offensive to a great many people. To me? I'm white, it doesn't effect me, so no skin (heh) off my back if it changes or not. However, if we're talking up to a million people in this country that it does directly insult? Then their voices should be heard on the subject, and if they want it changed, I feel like it should be. To most of us, it's just a team name, and team names aren't a huge deal. To others, its more than that, and that should be respected. Edited June 18, 2014 by Dorkington
Fingon Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) The same thing happened 15 years ago, and the Redskins won on appeal. Unless something has changed I expect a similar verdict. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/18/on-washington-name-same-ruling-was-issued-15-years-ago/ Edited June 18, 2014 by Fingon
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Here's my rather simple opinion/breakdown - Team names change all the time, but the team (generally) still remains. Washington won't be moving anywhere, the players won't all disappear, sundays will still be "fun"days. So changing the name? No big deal. - The name "redskin" is offensive to a great many people. To me? I'm white, it doesn't effect me, so no skin (heh) off my back if it changes or not. However, if we're talking up to a million people in this country that it does directly insult? Then their voices should be heard on the subject, and if they want it changed, I feel like it should be. To most of us, it's just a team name, and team names aren't a huge deal. Toothers, its more than that, and that should be respected. Well said. I really wonder why so many fight so hard to justify keeping a name that offends a lot of people?
26CornerBlitz Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 @RapSheet Here is everything #Redskins trademark attorney Bob Raskopf had to say: http://files.redskins.com/pdf/Statement-by-Bob-Raskopf-Trademark-Attorney-for-the-Washington-Redskins.pdf …
Dorkington Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 The same thing happened 15 years ago, and the Redskins won on appeal. Unless something has changed I expect a similar verdict. http://profootballta...d-15-years-ago/ There has been plenty of social change over the last 15 years. I wouldn't be surprised if things are different this time around. (Also wouldn't be surprised if the same results happend... just saying, its not set in stone)
section122 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Exactly!!! We need more slurs! Let's call women female dogs and see you next tuesdays! All gay people are a bunch of sticks! Bring back the n word! The government is oppressing my right as a old white guy to be as ignorant as I want! The horror! Thank you! Sometimes I have to remind myself that this board is mostly older white guys. Sometimes the board does the reminding for me. if its so offensive why haven't people stopped buying the merch? i suppose they could change the teams name to the washington savages or scalpers and keep the colors and logo. or if that's still too offensive they could just switch the name to the washinton whiteys. white people have no right to get offended so you'd never hear anything about it. i do find everyone getting butt hurt about everything ridiculous and figure if people want things to change then do it the easy way, get the majority to agree with it, not FIVE people who the claim was made in the name of. People will buy merch for their favorite team because it is their favorite team. There are many more than 5 people that care about this issue and it could well be the majority of people. You finding "everyone getting butt hurt about everything ridiculous" is fair. Except that it is your personal feeling that this is ridiculous. To some people this is a big deal. As C. Biscuit said, how would feel if they were the Washington N**gers? What about the Washing K*ikes? Would your feeling change then? You are apathetic towards this movement and it is well within your rights to be so. However when your argument is more anti-movement than apathetic to it. The same thing happened 15 years ago, and the Redskins won on appeal. Unless something has changed I expect a similar verdict. http://profootballta...d-15-years-ago/ Something like public opinion? This is a much bigger deal than it was 15 years ago. Edited June 18, 2014 by section122
Fingon Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Thank you! Sometimes I have to remind myself that this board is mostly older white guys. Sometimes the board does the reminding for me. People will buy merch for their favorite team because it is their favorite team. There are many more than 5 people that care about this issue and it could well be the majority of people. You finding "everyone getting butt hurt about everything ridiculous" is fair. Except that is your personal feeling that this is ridiculous. To some people this is a big deal. As C. Biscuit said, how would feel if they were the Washington N**gers? What about the Washing K*ikes? Would your feeling change then? You are apathetic towards this movement and it is well within your rights to be so. However when your argument is more anti-movement than apathetic to it. Something like public opinion? This is a much bigger deal than it was 15 years ago. Public opinion isn't a legal argument.
A Dog Named Kelso Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Perhaps they could change the name to the Washington Red Indians, and limit the amount of change needed . Edited June 18, 2014 by A Dog Named Kelso
Dirtbag Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 The same thing happened 15 years ago, and the Redskins won on appeal. Unless something has changed I expect a similar verdict. my understanding is that the earlier ruling was reversed due to a technicality (apparently the petitioners waited too long to file the complaint). i would assume that the more recent group has fixed it.
Fingon Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 If you read the 2003 decision the government has to provide detailed analysis on Native American populations and their opinions on the team's name.
Jauronimo Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Exactly!!! We need more slurs! Let's call women female dogs and see you next tuesdays! All gay people are a bunch of sticks! Bring back the n word! The government is oppressing my right as a old white guy to be as ignorant as I want! The horror! What is up with your fixation on old white men? How many times do we have to talk about the inherent !@#$ing irony in that statement? Learn a new trick.
Dorkington Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 I just don't understand the attachment to the team name. It's clearly something that offends a segment of the population... is a team name really that important to your enjoyment of the game? If the Bills changed their name tomorrow, I'd still be a fan of the team.
Fingon Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 my understanding is that the earlier ruling was reversed due to a technicality (apparently the petitioners waited too long to file the complaint). i would assume that the more recent group has fixed it. It was reversed because there was no evidence. The government didn't even try to show that the majority of Native Americans find the name disparaging.
WestSenecaNJ Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Exactly!!! We need more slurs! Let's call women female dogs and see you next tuesdays! All gay people are a bunch of sticks! Bring back the n word! The government is oppressing my right as a old white guy to be as ignorant as I want! The horror! I can't wait for the zombie apocalypse...
Rocky Landing Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 The same thing happened 15 years ago, and the Redskins won on appeal. Unless something has changed I expect a similar verdict. http://profootballta...d-15-years-ago/ Care to make a wager on that?
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