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Here, here. Another former 'progressive' finally opens his eyes. Congrats.

 

Thank you. I was merely a "Democrat" really, but had accepted some of the progressive ideas. Now I can see how it is being used to undermine the election (and far beyond). I came to the Politics forum, and noticed I had posted in this thread way back, nearly 2 years ago, then saw that I had a complete change of perspective since that time, and felt I should acknowledge it.

 

If I'm dismissed as a troll, no big deal. I usually stay off politics on a sports forum, I get my fill elsewhere. I think many here are dicks, but at least they are dicks against Hillary, and progressivism.

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ha. Not trolling at all, unfortunately. But maybe you're all dicks. That's fine with me, I was just acknowledging my previous mistaken assumption. Not sure what part of my post could be construed as trolling.

 

I'm still curious what you mistook for being dickish in my response.

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Thank you. I was merely a "Democrat" really, but had accepted some of the progressive ideas. Now I can see how it is being used to undermine the election (and far beyond). I came to the Politics forum, and noticed I had posted in this thread way back, nearly 2 years ago, then saw that I had a complete change of perspective since that time, and felt I should acknowledge it.

 

If I'm dismissed as a troll, no big deal. I usually stay off politics on a sports forum, I get my fill elsewhere. I think many here are dicks, but at least they are dicks against Hillary, and progressivism.

 

I think it's safe to say there are no dicks for Hillary.

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I'm still curious what you mistook for being dickish in my response.

 

Because you ignored everything else about my post, to expound on my use of the term "globalism", (even though I mentioned totalitarianism earlier). I could have used more specific language, but was in a bit of a hurry.

 

I think it was motivated by a resentment over previous conflicts regarding Deflategate.

 

No big whup. I don't intend to comment here on politics regularly, but as I mentioned, I felt I should acknowledge my misguided comment, and the change in my thinking.

 

I'm happy these views are being discussed here, because people need to read these perspectives.

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I think it's safe to say there are no dicks for Hillary.

She thinks rationally and penises only needlessly foment Orwellian rationalizations however undesirable many are.

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Because you ignored everything else about my post, to expound on my use of the term "globalism", (even though I mentioned totalitarianism earlier). I could have used more specific language, but was in a bit of a hurry.

 

I think it was motivated by a resentment over previous conflicts regarding Deflategate.

 

No big whup. I don't intend to comment here on politics regularly, but as I mentioned, I felt I should acknowledge my misguided comment, and the change in my thinking.

 

I'm happy these views are being discussed here, because people need to read these perspectives.

 

Oh, okay. So in other words you're crazy or unable to read what was written.

 

If you took what I wrote as having anything to do with whatever nonsense you're talking about Deflategate ( :wacko: ) or even read it as contentious, you're an idiot. It was agreeing with your take on globalism and totalitarianism and expounding on that point.

 

Man, I must be living in your head. For that I'm sorry. No one should have to bear that horror.

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Clinton campaign manager: Russians leaked Democrats' emails to help Donald Trump

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/24/clinton-campaign-manager-russians-leaked-democrats-emails-to-help-donald-trump/?postshare=2711469370591026&tid=ss_tw

 

See media............whats in the E-mails is not the story..............how they were (supposedly) released is what you should write about........... :lol:

 

 

 

Russkis under my bed!

 

 

I can see Russia from my email server.

 

 

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This is a Democracy Now post (very leftish) and and interview with Greenwald (so, trigger warning for GG) -- but the discussion is quite interesting and involves the CF as well as other issues.

 

The video should start at 39:02 when you click the link (if it doesn't, skip ahead to that point). It's an 8 minute watch.

 

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/8/29/greenwald_why_did_saudi_regime_other


Clinton campaign manager: Russians leaked Democrats' emails to help Donald Trump

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/24/clinton-campaign-manager-russians-leaked-democrats-emails-to-help-donald-trump/?postshare=2711469370591026&tid=ss_tw

 

See media............whats in the E-mails is not the story..............how they were (supposedly) released is what you should write about........... :lol:

 

 

 

Russkis under my bed!

 

 

I can see Russia from my email server.

 

 

.

 

Push that cold war, HRC. Push it good. War is good for business, and war with Russia will be GREAT for business.

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Clinton campaign manager: Russians leaked Democrats' emails to help Donald Trump

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/24/clinton-campaign-manager-russians-leaked-democrats-emails-to-help-donald-trump/?postshare=2711469370591026&tid=ss_tw

 

See media............whats in the E-mails is not the story..............how they were (supposedly) released is what you should write about........... :lol:

 

 

 

Russkis under my bed!

 

 

I can see Russia from my email server.

 

Media Orgs Donate to Clinton Foundation Then Downplay Clinton Foundation Scandal

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My awareness took a leap during the Clockboy "scandal". It became apparent that, among virtually all my peer group, even questioning Ahmed's motivations was enough to have you branded a racist. From there to the Roosh (pickup artist) "scandal", where a tasteless "pro-rape" satire provokes death threats, yet from the same attackers not a single mention of actual rapes by migrants throughout the EU.

 

I expect Hillary to do for relations between the sexes, what Obama did for race relations.

 

 

The refugee crisis is beyond the pale.

 

The Orlando killer story...immediately converted into a gun issue. Even if they stopped selling any guns TODAY, there are so many guns already in circulation, that any terrorist would have no trouble obtaining one (or would just make a bomb, or run people over with a car, or....).

 

Transgender...BLM...no need to go on, really. I'm preaching to the choir.

 

I have always been on "the Left", and throughout my life, it was the Right that I associated with censorship, and suppression of information. Now it is clear that "progressivism" is a wolf in sheep's clothing. I have always been dismissive of conspiracy theories, but the table is being set for globalization, and it appears there is no way around it.

Congrats.

 

The progressive socialist ideology is all for diversity, freedom and rights, but only if those viewpoints agree with their own.

 

 

They want to control, discredit and silence their critics.

 

I think it's funny that many people here who are on the left just think that anyone who opposes them is just some type of right wing conservative when it couldn't be further from the truth. Many of us are libertarian, centrist, independent, conservative, constitutionalist and any degree in between.

 

 

:beer:

This is a Democracy Now post (very leftish) and and interview with Greenwald (so, trigger warning for GG) -- but the discussion is quite interesting and involves the CF as well as other issues.

 

The video should start at 39:02 when you click the link (if it doesn't, skip ahead to that point). It's an 8 minute watch.

 

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/8/29/greenwald_why_did_saudi_regime_other

 

 

Push that cold war, HRC. Push it good. War is good for business, and war with Russia will be GREAT for business.

War with Russia equals many millions of dead people, the end of this forum, the end of the NFL and we will never see the bills win the Superbowl.

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Way back at the start of this thread, I was all Hillary. Today, I'm here to tell you I was a fool. My apologies.

 

Hillary is the most blatantly corrupt Presidential candidate I can conceive of, and my political views have completely changed.

 

I see totalitarianism on the horizon.

Congratulations on becoming a person who thinks for themselves. As mentioned earlier in this thread, the right is composed of many different political beliefs. We often disagree but generally speaking we back up our arguments with at least a semblance of reason. Not so with the majority on the left. They pretty much march in unison with the their leaders and are virtually impossible to debate with since their beliefs are cast in stone.

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This also neatly illustrates why the conflict of interest the Clinton Foundation causes is so important...

 

"Oh, that's a personal email."

 

"But it's between you and the Saudi foreign minister."

 

"Yes...but it was about Clinton Foundation business..."

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This also neatly illustrates why the conflict of interest the Clinton Foundation causes is so important...

 

"Oh, that's a personal email."

 

"But it's between you and the Saudi foreign minister."

 

"Yes...but it was about Clinton Foundation business..."

The whole thing is so ridiculous. She really should be sent out on an ice floe, but she is going to be president instead.

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Why it's almost as if the Obama/Kerry State Department didn't pursue their own internal investigation and the Obama FBI didn't really intend to prosecute

 

The only thing that could make this entire scenario any more dubious would be if a former president who happened to also be Hillary's "husband" had a secret meeting in a private jet with the current attorney General and then days later it's reported the FBI will not recommended to prosecute.

 

Weird coincidence I'm sure....

 

Nothing to see move along

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