Jeromeme Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Please consider signing petition here https://www.change.o...nly-right-place The best choice for all of Western New York. Bethlehem Waterfront Park * Change Western New York's image forever from the rust belt to a green belt, national showcase. * Create 1200 acres of usable waterfront, two miles wide and a mile deep of uninterrupted land with plenty of green space projects and parking. * Provide a domed stadium (retractable roof) beside a large Outer Harbor, with an impressive front plaza and boardwalk overlooking the harbor (600 to 1,000 boat slips). Elevated enclosed walkways connecting domed stadium, Buffalo Bills office, high rise hotels and condos. * Offer opportunities for other attractions such as a splash lagoon, (possible museums/sports theme attractions), Woodlawn beach extension (total two mile beach), outdoor youth athletic areas (football, baseball and soccer), boat ramps, 10,000 trees, 200 to 400 RV/camper sites, amphitheater/elevated patios overlooking the beach with sunset views, picnic shelters, wildlife/bird nursery, art area (think Artpark), garden area (close to Botanical Gardens), restaurant and shopping district on Ridge Road and old Route Five Boulevard. * The land has multiple six main existing access roads. A seventh fast track thruway connector (quick access to waterfront for thruway drivers, attracts visitors) can be built on an abandon 2.3 miles railway to link up with Route Five and Waterfront with no tolls. Fast track Route Five, with no stop lights. These will enhance and maximize existing traffic flow for the City of Buffalo rush hour, park and events. * The domed stadium would be enough away from the immediate shoreline to protect tens of thousands of tailgating Bills fans from the weather. Take advantage of the temperature of the air will be ten degrees warming from the lake retaining the summer heat in the later season. * Highlight the City of Buffalo’s numerous hotels, restaurants, shops and waterfront by connecting the light rail transit system out and along the waterfront to the park. * A natural wonder showcase for 80,000 fans and the NATIONAL AWARENESS of millions of viewers to see on TV multiple times a year, attract the SUPER BOWL. * Western New York offering a vast multiple use and family friendly atmosphere all along the waterfront. * The greatest of youth plans in miles of waterfront natural beauty, which re-energizes souls and spirits. * Create tens of thousands of jobs I sense there are insights from ancient history, a people freed from bondage of four hundred years. They could have gone into their promise land but their conditioning from being in bondage cause them to turn away, saying there were giants in the land. They wandered aimlessly in disbelief for forty years in the wilderness. Only when the older generation died off, the younger generation not afraid, courageously entered the promise land and overcame the obstacles. When the Bethlehem Steel plant closed in 1983 (31 years ago), Lackawanna citizens doubted saying to themselves there were as if giants in the land in the many large empty buildings, it is to polluted, and there is no money, became wandering aimlessly. Around the year 1900 there were also a handful of people in power of then the town of Seneca (before separated into Lackawanna) chosen love of money over a serene waterfront. An unfinished painting with an already backdrop of a long sand beach where children played alongside their mothers, sunsets and the lake teamed with blue pike, walleye, perch, and bass. Ready for good stewards, as if with the delicate brush stokes of an artist to paint in a large inner harbor of commercial boats, sail boats, fishing boats, a large waterfront park, a main street filled with shops, parents, children smiling, and tourism. Money recirculated back into the economy instead of being taken to far away serene places never to return. Painted in relatively clean industry in designated areas away from the waterfront. A place to live, work and play. Instead a handful of people in power chosen to paint in a wall of darkness and pollution. Painted in large darken buildings some containing labyrinths of flowing fire, large smoke stacks discharged large billowing smoke columns blocking the sunlight, fouling the air with fine orange colored particles that hanged in the air and drifted down into every little crevice and onto clothes hanged out to dry. A gaseous noxious sulfur smell permeating the area and the night sky would instantaneously become orange as on fire. Painted in polluted water killed the fish and parts of the lake. Painted in crooked politicians, rows of saloons, brothels and a City Hall that looks like a plastic orange milk crate held up on sticks. A city on the great lakes where its citizens are completely walled off of its two miles of waterfront shore for a hundred years. Abraham Lincoln had said: “A house divided against itself can't stand ........... I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other.” It should be ask, can the waterfront in it's present state endure with industry side by side clean waterfront tourism in the city of Buffalo for long? An example of our house divided is the destruction of the Bethlehem Steel Administration Building https://www.facebook...46390728721646/ . This could of been easily saved for a tourist destination on the waterfont of Lackawanna. Instead outside politicians became mysteriously silent over night as if bowed down to the steel plant legacy mentality of industry on the waterfront. Twenty years ago Lackawanna citizens, including myself, barely fended off (even by way of death threats) a tire burning plant and medical waste burning faculty to be built on Lackawanna’s waterfront. If not for this victory, there would be smokestacks on Lackawanna’s waterfront today with their exhaust pollution drifting over Buffalo’s Canalside. Much of Buffalo’s waterfront resurgence, revitalization, beautification and saving of the old buildings would have perhaps never solidified the way it has as of late. Today industry is ramping up again on Lackawanna's waterfront, where more Lackawanna citizens will be economically yoked to the heavy industry on the waterfront. What will happen next time when another polluting industry will offer Lackawanna a deal too good to be true, easy fast money? Will you trust Lackawanna politicians when they see dollars signs in their dreams? Will there be enough citizens not yoked to the growing industry foot print on the waterfront to stop them, next time? I don't expect the same degree of the steel plant pollution, but it will be another black mark on Western New York’s waterfront. Where again Western New York's clean waterfront image will lose out and jeopardize Buffalo’s resurgence. If you're going to begin a waterfront beautification and revitalization, you must go all the way, and carry it to all parts before it is too late. (The mayor on July 12, 2013 said during his conversation with a citizen, there is a company form India interesting in moving to Lackawanna's waterfront, three times as big as the recent large business moved to the waterfront.) What happens on Lackawanna's waterfront, does not stay on Lackawanna's waterfront, reflects an image and affects all citizens in W.N.Y., New York State and the U.S.A. Buffalo is beginning to prosper, 1.7 billion dollars is being invested in beautifying their waterfront, new buildings throughout the city, and restoring their architectural rich designed buildings. Will Lackawanna ever learn the word diversify, clean light industry currently on Lackawanna's waterfront can be relocated with state and federal grants inland? Western New York's image will only truly change completely if the 1200 acres of the waterfront of Lackawanna is unclogged with “we care attitudes”, “hone to beautification”, and remove the “pollution build up”, will cause the economy of W.N.Y. to have its original full power intended, will speed ahead, be on a par with other great waterfront areas across the nation, gaining national recognition, attracting people, fueling its economic engine. The Buffalo Bills dome stadium can be the catalyst to kick start the two remaining cylinders of W.N.Y. economic engine. The raw economic power will ignite the greatest private, State, and Federal investment revitalization and beautification of Western New York's waterfront. A Western New York's waterfront complete makeover, in the shortest time horizon to be enjoyed, bring prosperity and be appreciated by all a place to live, work and play. The City of Buffalo's waterfront and the City of Lackawanna's waterfront are forever connected, each has its own particular strengths. One without the other, can never attain their fullness of stature. The strength of Lackawanna's waterfront reclaimed, cleaned up and beautified will have a multifaceted natural appeal. Combined them will complement each another; will uplift each other to the awareness of the nation, for attracting a super bowl and on to the global stage the Olympics. Add a new six lane Peace Horizons Bridge could be a tourist destination to draw numerous tourist of the 22,000,000 tourist that visit the falls each year. Only a half an hour drive from the falls to the Buffalo area (bring tourist dollars). Western New York shores ought to be lifted up as bright shinning stars, where others in the world will take notice. Citybration presented Peace Horizons Bridge And Bethlehem Waterfront Park design, at Canal Side Buffalo New York for one day. People signed the petitions, 184 signatures for Peace Horizons Bridge and over 100 signatures for the Bethlehem Waterfront Park https://www.flickr.c...in/photostream/ Steven Appler AMHERST, NY 6 days ago I agree that is time to begin wrestling this mess that Bethlehem left, cleaning it up and putting that amazing area back into the tax roll. Andrew Jansa OMAHA, NE 6 days ago I am from Orchard Park, I still come back all the time and go to games. This is important to me because not only is it a fantastic spot, getting rid of one of the scars of the city and putting something else there that would remind us of where the city use to come from in the Steel days would be a great way to honor past and present. sally zak EDEN, NY 11 days ago Season ticket holders and if you have to move it then Lackawanna has more than enough room along the waterfront plus it's an eye sore now. Let's make the most of that empty land. Great idea and easy access for all. Francine Warner GRAND ISLAND, NY 12 days ago I see this as the perfect place for a domed stadium due to the location. Easy to get to from all directions, north from Canada and all of the south towns. Close to Buffalo for out of town visitors to stay over at one of Buffalo's many hotels. Mary Gallivan BUFFALO, NY 12 days ago I believe that the message is true! We failed at our last attempt. Let's not allow Lackawanna fall to the wayside. I'm from the north side of the city and I can totally see the wisdom of this argument. Clarence Korabek VIRGINIA BEACH, VA 13 days ago It will beautify the waterfront which should have been done in the 80's. It will also help to keep the Buffalo Bills in Buffalo. Peter Kujawski KENMORE, NY 6 days ago While not only providing a permanent and contemporary home to the Buffalo Bills, this plan would turn a long dominant and polluted site into a local, national and international destination. I grew up in Buffalo and the Bethlehem Steel site always conjured images for a long gone era. We can reclaim part of that hay day and help rejuvenate the city and surrounding neighborhoods. Tracy Snyder CANANDAIGUA, NY 6 days ago The Buffalo Bills are an integral part of the Western New York Community and need to be recognized and part of a larger long lasting project here. Local, national, and even international recognition of a project of this magnitude would benefit the region and be a positive move in the right direction for improving the economic and cultural climate. These are critical times and losing the Bills is not an option. This plan is a forward thinking and practical way to ensuring the growth of the region and the future of a long lasting and deeply engrained tradition. Please consider signing petition here https://www.change.o...nly-right-place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Damn. Nice work. I skimmed most of the text but the pictures are spiffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Same thing? http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/168191-peition-on-changeorg-for-stadium-on-lackawanna-waterfront/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 How do we get 60,000 people there via 1 road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 You block the view of the waterfront with wind turbines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAlberta Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I would have to get used to a dome, I prefer Football that's played in the elements but it looks spiffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 You block the view of the waterfront with wind turbines? The turbines will be constructed on a swivel. There is one turbine which you will see is positioned directly in back of the dome opening. The turbine will blow wind toward the opponent on kickoffs and field goals. It's our "green" version of the Seattle stadium noise enhancements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The turbines will be constructed on a swivel. There is one turbine which you will see is positioned directly in back of the dome opening. The turbine will blow wind toward the opponent on kickoffs and field goals. It's our "green" version of the Seattle stadium noise enhancements. sold. 80 yard FGs by The Mullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSNBDSC Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Stayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Domes dont get built anymore. The flat "roofed" stadiums or barn-style. Also, wouldnt this site require a full-scale remediation project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The turbines will be constructed on a swivel. There is one turbine which you will see is positioned directly in back of the dome opening. The turbine will blow wind toward the opponent on kickoffs and field goals. It's our "green" version of the Seattle stadium noise enhancements. Oh, okay. That makes sense. Beats putting an expressway there, at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Jeromeme = one post troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMan Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 "A house divided against itself.....". Actually Jesus said it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 It wouldn't work.... makes too much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) You block the view of the waterfront with wind turbines? What's cool about those wind turbines is that nothing else could be approved to be built on that site. It is land made from the waste of the Bethleham steel plant. Slag I think it's called. Anyway it's so contaiminated that the wind turbines are the only thing allowed to built there. It was a thesis project by a UB student that was put into action Edited June 9, 2014 by Captain Hindsight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeromeme Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 How do we get 60,000 people there via 1 road? *The land has multiple six main existing access roads. A seventh fast track thruway connector (quick access to waterfront for thruway drivers, attracts visitors) can be built on an abandon 2.3 miles railway to link up with Route Five and Waterfront with no tolls. Fast track Route Five, with no stop lights. These will enhance and maximize existing traffic flow for the City of Buffalo rush hour, park and events. There would be three entrances to the park. The south existing entrance ( Woodlawn Beach), creation of the central (main) entrance name Sunset Rd. mid section of the park, and the North entrance the large developement of stadium, hotels, condos, splash lagoon, theme attractions, large harbor, boat ramps). Route five (access from North Buffalo, North Tonawanda, Canada) Tift Street (South Buffalo) Ridge Rd. (Lackawannna, West Seneca) Lake Ave. (Blazedell, Ochard Park) Mile strip expressway (Hamburg, Mall, Orchard Park) Lake Shore Road (Hamburg, Derby, etc.) Fast Tack Thruway Connector (imagine driving down the thruway and you see an exit sign and ramp to Bethlehem Waterfront Park/ Bills Stadium, in 2.3 miles arrive on fast track old Hamburg turnpike no stop lights. (Williamsville, Amherst, Clarence, Rochester, Orchard Park, Cleveland) Light rail rapid transit system out and along the waterfront to the park (City of Bufflao's parking, hotel, dine and ride 10,000 to 15,000 people, highlight the City of Buffalo’s numerous hotels, restaurants, shops and waterfront) Bicycle trials and walking all long the waterfront, boats and tourist boats (early season). Hamburg turnpike suggest will become a fast track road, without stop lights, built a little further towards waterfront. Existing Hamburg turnpike suggest would become a service road/boulevard reconnected to existing Ridge Rd, highly landscaped on the park side and developed with stores, restaurants on the city side. Everything would be carefully designed for walking distance, cluastering the the large development stadium, harbor, splash lagoon, theme attractions, hotels and condos, walking distance to the store, restaurant district on Ridge Rd. and service road/ Route Five boulevard, rapid light rail transit to the City of Buffalo. The goal is when at its peak 100,000 to 120,000 people attending both the stadium event and the park's many other attractions, have multiple access main roads, fast track thruway connector, light rail rapid transit, bicycle trials, walking (free exercise and scenery), and boats (early season). Pehrpas you can share with family and friends to sign the petition, would be very helpful. https://www.change.org/petitions/jim-kelly-buffalo-bills-domed-stadium-on-lackawanna-s-waterfront-is-the-only-right-place Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 odd. the one thing i don't see is a price-tag connected to this proposal. cost of stadium? environmental cleanup (acutally, what is the condition of the land)? public cost of building up infrastructure, road ways, marina? is using Ridge Road as a feeder acceptable, given the historical value of the corner of Ridge and South Park? i mean, people question the Niagara Falls proposal over traffic access and lack of infrastructure? not sure if this is any better. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Brilliant! Build a stadium on on one of the biggest toxic dumps in the state. Will it be painted Lackawanna Brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 odd. the one thing i don't see is a price-tag connected to this proposal. cost of stadium? environmental cleanup (acutally, what is the condition of the land)? public cost of building up infrastructure, road ways, marina? is using Ridge Road as a feeder acceptable, given the historical value of the corner of Ridge and South Park? i mean, people question the Niagara Falls proposal over traffic access and lack of infrastructure? not sure if this is any better. jw I am going to sound really ignorant, but what happened here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 "A house divided against itself.....". Actually Jesus said it first. "The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their validity." -Abraham Lincoln Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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