Beerball Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local/douglasville/2014/05/27/charlie-mayes-teen-punished/9642971/
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 kids school backpacks weigh that much now a days !!!
Jauronimo Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 http://www.11alive.c...nished/9642971/ Totally agree. I cannot believe someone could be so cruel and inhumane to a child. And it was his own son!!! What could possibly compel a man to discipline a child? What is the world coming to?
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 When I was a kid, my father employed similar methods of military style punishment for similar reasons. He would have me "dig a hole 4' deep, and 4' wide," then he would have me "move the hole," by digging another hole 4' away, using the dirt from the new hole to fill the prior hole. I then had to re-sod all the patches out of my own pocket. It's the best thing my father possibly could have done for me, and I'm grateful for it today.
BillsFanM.D. Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Absurd. I'm sure the kid would be better off if he had an uninterested father who let him sit on his azz and play video games all day with no responsibility. Although a bit unusual by today's standards, this punishment is fine by me. Heaven forbid the kid doesn't 'enjoy' his punishment.
Cugalabanza Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Dissenting opinion: I think it's !@#$ed up to treat your kid this way. I don't necessarily think it should be illegal, but If I found out one of my friends was doing this to his son, I'd tell him: that's some weird !@#$ed up drill sargeant BS to do to your kid. I believe in discipline and hard work and respecting your elders and all that, but this is some weird degrading stuff. That's my take.
Jauronimo Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Dissenting opinion: I think it's !@#$ed up to treat your kid this way. I don't necessarily think it should be illegal, but If I found out one of my friends was doing this to his son, I'd tell him: that's some weird !@#$ed up drill sargeant BS to do to your kid. I believe in discipline and hard work and respecting your elders and all that, but this is some weird degrading stuff. That's my take. What part of that is degrading?
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Dissenting opinion: I think it's !@#$ed up to treat your kid this way. I don't necessarily think it should be illegal, but If I found out one of my friends was doing this to his son, I'd tell him: that's some weird !@#$ed up drill sargeant BS to do to your kid. I believe in discipline and hard work and respecting your elders and all that, but this is some weird degrading stuff. That's my take. What's wrong with imparting your kids with the hard earned knowledge that they can work hard at doing something productive and meeting their obligations, or that they can work hard at doing something unproductive and dissatisfying, but that either way they will work hard.
zevo Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 I have no issue with this....by all accounts a 16 year old is basically a man these days...have you seen some of these kids? That's what I call a good ole fashioned military workout
Cugalabanza Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 I have no issue with this....by all accounts a 16 year old is basically a man these days...have you seen some of these kids? That's what I call a good ole fashioned military workout This one is 4'2". Making him walk miles with a 23 lb. brick on his back seems bizarre to me. I think what you gain in making the point about discipline and work is outweighed by creating this drill sargeant / grunt relationship with your kid. I think a kid would have to be a pretty hardass case for this kind of punishment to be required. Maybe this one is, I don't know. But, my opinion is that the vast majority of kids don't need to be "broken" in order to teach these lessons. And yes, I understand that a parent is not the same thing as a friend. I know the value of parental authority and how and when it should be wielded. Again, I don't agree that this should necessarily be a police matter. I just think it's kind of !@#$ed up to treat your child this way. My philosophy of raising a child is a little different.
IDBillzFan Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Oly enough, if the father was just another deadbeat absentee dad with no job, we'd give him free government food and money. But no. This one we arrest.
DC Tom Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 On the one hand, that's one of the methods some military organizations (the 22nd SAS regiment springs to mind most immediately - carrying rucksacks full of bricks on hikes) use to instill discipline and work ethic. On the other hand, that's one of the techniques the SS used to torture and kill inmates at the Mauthausen KZ (one of about 60, and never used on its own, it should be noted). So I'm torn on this one...
Jauronimo Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 On the one hand, that's one of the methods some military organizations (the 22nd SAS regiment springs to mind most immediately - carrying rucksacks full of bricks on hikes) use to instill discipline and work ethic. On the other hand, that's one of the techniques the SS used to torture and kill inmates at the Mauthausen KZ (one of about 60, and never used on its own, it should be noted). So I'm torn on this one... There's a fine line between torture and discipline. Anyone who pledged a frat is pretty familiar with most of the techniques which now fall under the category of "enhanced interrogation". That's why you use some common sense and stop BEFORE kids die.
Fan in San Diego Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Its grossly excessive. How about taking away the play station if that was the problem. Edited May 29, 2014 by Fan in San Diego
mrags Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 People that have a problem with this are exactly the reason why society has become so pussified. I believe in code reds.
IDBillzFan Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Its grossly excessive. How about taking away the play station if that was the problem. To you. Discipline isn't a one-size-fits-all thing. You have to find their hot spot. Taking away games meant nothing to my son. Making him sit in his room alone meant nothing as he'did just sit there and read, and no idiot takes books away from their kid. It took me a while to figure out how to reach my 9 year old, but figure it out we ultimately did. His attitude changed immediately the minute we took away his porn.
MarkAF43 Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 People that have a problem with this are exactly the reason why society has become so pussified. I believe in code reds. DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED?!
Beerball Posted May 29, 2014 Author Posted May 29, 2014 This one is 4'2". Making him walk miles with a 23 lb. brick on his back seems bizarre to me. I think what you gain in making the point about discipline and work is outweighed by creating this drill sargeant / grunt relationship with your kid. I think a kid would have to be a pretty hardass case for this kind of punishment to be required. Maybe this one is, I don't know. But, my opinion is that the vast majority of kids don't need to be "broken" in order to teach these lessons. And yes, I understand that a parent is not the same thing as a friend. I know the value of parental authority and how and when it should be wielded. Again, I don't agree that this should necessarily be a police matter. I just think it's kind of !@#$ed up to treat your child this way. My philosophy of raising a child is a little different. BF4ever gave the best comparison above. When your child is in 5th grade her backpack will be over 10lbs. The weight increases from there. IMO a parent shouldn't expect to be the best friend of their child; they should expect to be the best roll model for them. Understanding that there are consequences to actions is not a bad thing in any way/shape/form. On the other hand, that's one of the techniques the SS used to torture and kill inmates at the Mauthausen KZ (one of about 60, and never used on its own, it should be noted). One technique or one facet of an overall plan that had as its goal the extermination of prisoners through malnutrition and labor?
shrader Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 This one is 4'2". Making him walk miles with a 23 lb. brick on his back seems bizarre to me. That's one detail I wish they expanded on a bit. Just how scrawny is this kid? If by some chance there's some medical issue there, the father could potentially be in the wrong on this one.
The Poojer Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 as a parent I am torn on this one...it does seem a bit harsh of punishment..but i get it completely...that said even if i think the punishment is too harsh i think we are doomed because someone deemed this illegal and worthy of throwing a disciplining father in jail...
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