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  1. 1. Yards?

    • Watkins
      73
    • Woods
      28
    • Williams
      17
    • Goodwin
      1
    • Graham
      3
    • Chandler
      1
    • Moeaki
      0
    • Gragg
      1
  2. 2. Catches?

    • Watkins
      46
    • Woods
      59
    • Williams
      8
    • Goodwin
      0
    • Graham
      3
    • Chandler
      7
    • Moeaki
      0
    • Gragg
      1
  3. 3. YPC/YAC?

    • Watkins
      72
    • Woods
      8
    • Williams
      12
    • Goodwin
      27
    • Graham
      4
    • Chandler
      0
    • Moeaki
      0
    • Gragg
      1


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If it's not Watkins in all categories then why trade up and drop Stevie? It has to be Watkins otherwise we didn't get our money's worth

 

Although I also worry about the high price paid for Sammy, I disagree with this. It might be unreasonable to expect a rookie to be a team's dominant WR right away. I think we need to wait a few years to rate this - or any - draft.

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Although I also worry about the high price paid for Sammy, I disagree with this. It might be unreasonable to expect a rookie to be a team's dominant WR right away. I think we need to wait a few years to rate this - or any - draft.

I disagree. He's supposed to be the best WR prospect in many years and the best offensive player in the draft. If he isn't immediately the best WR on this team and the difference maker we need then we shouldn't have traded up and then dumped Stevie. We could have had Stevie and Odell Beckham without trading up. The whole argument for trading up is to win now

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I disagree. He's supposed to be the best WR prospect in many years and the best offensive player in the draft. If he isn't immediately the best WR on this team and the difference maker we need then we shouldn't have traded up and then dumped Stevie. We could have had Stevie and Odell Beckham without trading up. The whole argument for trading up is to win now

 

Gotta agree with ya. If Sammy doesn't get 1k yards and at least a couple TD's, that's not good.

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I disagree. He's supposed to be the best WR prospect in many years and the best offensive player in the draft. If he isn't immediately the best WR on this team and the difference maker we need then we shouldn't have traded up and then dumped Stevie. We could have had Stevie and Odell Beckham without trading up. The whole argument for trading up is to win now

 

Who said that the whole argument for trading up is to win now? Sure, SW should be an instant positive impact for the team, but if things go according to plan he will be far more important down the road(2015-18) for making a championship calibre team.

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I'll be surprised if TJ isn't cut/traded.

 

You can't trade someone who stinks. Lead hands.

 

Watkins will turn out to be awesome in time, but may need to get used to the NFL in speed, size, etc. I'm guessing Mike Williams will have a breakout year for us. I've watched him for 4 years, and he will drive us down the field.

 

As far as catches, I'm betting Woods.

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Who said that the whole argument for trading up is to win now? Sure, SW should be an instant positive impact for the team, but if things go according to plan he will be far more important down the road(2015-18) for making a championship calibre team.

Doug Whaley and Russ Brandon have been saying it over and over like a broken record. Win now, win now. They said they traded up because they felt that Sammy was the type of player to get them over the hump and into the playoffs. That's a lot of pressure to put on a rookie but if he's not that kind of player then they shouldn't have traded up. If he's not our best WR this year then that means their plan didn't work

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Doug Whaley and Russ Brandon have been saying it over and over like a broken record. Win now, win now. They said they traded up because they felt that Sammy was the type of player to get them over the hump and into the playoffs. That's a lot of pressure to put on a rookie but if he's not that kind of player then they shouldn't have traded up. If he's not our best WR this year then that means their plan didn't work

 

Actually, they've been saying a lot more than just that, with many comments about the overall combination of moves made this off-season.....and regularly talking about building the roster for the future. Focusing purely on 2014 with Watkins is rather short sighted and quite curmudgeonly when it comes to assessing the situation.

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Actually, they've been saying a lot more than just that, with many comments about the overall combination of moves made this off-season.....and regularly talking about building the roster for the future. Focusing purely on 2014 with Watkins is rather short sighted and quite curmudgeonly when it comes to assessing the situation.

I know that I wasn't specifically referring to Watkins just this year. He will be a great player moving forward no doubt. The point that I was trying to make is that they think that there will be a fairly minimal learning curve with Watkins. He should be ready to play and contribute sooner than later. It is a long term move for sure but he is not a project player that will need a ton of time to develop either.
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I know that I wasn't specifically referring to Watkins just this year. He will be a great player moving forward no doubt. The point that I was trying to make is that they think that there will be a fairly minimal learning curve with Watkins. He should be ready to play and contribute sooner than later. It is a long term move for sure but he is not a project player that will need a ton of time to develop either.

 

I totally agree. My comment was in response to kdiggz who stated......if he isn't immediately the best WR on this team and the difference maker we need then we shouldn't have traded up and then dumped Stevie.......which totally discounts the concept that he might need some time to acclimate to the NFL, or that he might be simply good in his rookie year and be all-pro from his 2nd.

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