bisonbrigade Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 THey can build a dome stadium if they can put artificial snow in the stadium during Dolphin games. LOL
jimmy10 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 I prefer outdoor for the Bills. I like the variability and the fact that the weather is an element that gives different games character and properties. If a roof gets it done though, we gotta support that I don't care if they have to play their games on the deck of an aircraft carrier at the Naval yard. If it keeps the Bills here, I will support it.
CountDorkula Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Why do I think that a convention center won't be part of it, or why mega events won't be begging to come to Buffalo if a new indoor stadium is built? Convention Center would only be part of it, if new stadium is downtown, and on top of that the added cost combined with the lack of current events for the existing convention center makes it probably a no go. Mega events? How many BCS Bowl games are currently played in the Northeast/MidWest? You think they are going to turn their cheek on New Orleans, Miami, Phoenix, Pasadena, etc...? As far as basketball goes, Buffalo can't even get the regional finals of March Madness despite having a proven track record hosting the first and second round of games four or five times now. Final Four? Pipedream. Same reason there will never be a SB here. Not enough hotels. What does that leave? Just being realistic, but I guess that makes me a curmudgeon? :huh: As I just stated, despite having a proven track record in March Madness over the last 10 years, they can't sniff the Sweet 16, but the Final Four is not that far fetched? Look at the size difference though between where the Final four is held to where the regionals are held. If Buffalo has a state of the art 60K plus stadium, who's to say they wont be in the running? The FNC for basketball holds about 20K. Imgine 40K more people packed into that place.
Garion Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 I don't care if they have to play their games on the deck of an aircraft carrier at the Naval yard. If it keeps the Bills here, I will support it. Agreed
BillnutinHouston Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 I think a domed stadium in Niagara Falls would almost guarantee a Super Bowl... Plenty of rooms, great venue. Yes, cold, and probably snowy but it could happen. I think it's a real stretch to think Buffalo would host a Super Bowl before other cold weather cities with newer stadiums such as New England, Philly, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. We have to just focus on a multiuse facility that keeps the team in Bflo and that helps spur other economic development. Having said that, people need to understand that as far as hotel rooms for a Super Bowl go, there's a very wide geographic radius in play. When Dallas hosted the Super Bowl, many visitors were staying in towns far away from the actual venue. So if Niagara Falls has enough rooms to host a SB, then Buffalo does as well. I just don't think Buffalo has enough appeal to land a SB even if we do build a new stadium.
Webster Guy Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Have you ever seen an nfl game in a dome? Its all artificial light, its way darker than open air stadiums, and it feels like arena football. I hate domes. So do Green Bay, NE, Chicago, Cleveland, Pitt and a ton of other northern cities that see football games as an outing with fresh air and the excitement of playing in the elements. I am not a traditionalist at all. Just go to a dome game or two and you'll see the difference, its night and day.
Beerball Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 My 2 cents... 4 Multi-purpose stadium? I'd built it with the guarantee that there will be 10 Bills games a year. If you build a "football only" facility then your guarantee will be correct. If you build a multi-use facility then I guarantee that the likelihood of other events being held there are more likely than in your scenario. I've lived in the DFW area & I realize that Buffalo isn't DFW, but, there is no reason that Buffalo cannot attract events a tier balow what Jerrah's world does. Field of dreams brother, field of dreams.
machine gun kelly Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Split the difference with a retractable dome and no matter his state of the art, we'll never get a SB unless maybe we build it in Niagara Falls. Cuomo dumps not only money for the stadium, but improves the roads and infrastructure. The closer to the Canadian side the better so we attract the fans who want attractions. In Tampa we always move the Gasparila parade to the week of the SB If we host it. Gasparilla is a parade that celebrates when the Pirate Jose Gaspar invaded Tampa. Basically it's 500,000 people come watch the hundreds of boats who come in and invade Bayshore. There are parties everywhere and open container is lifted. It always attracts the SB fans coming in for the game. buffalo or Niagara Falls would need to put some type of winter activities as getting this game is not just in the game. The city has to create an experience to get the event. Oh, by the way we'd have to build more sky boxes and club seating, as well as make it like other stadiums in the 65,000 sizeso they sell out more, etc. The seat cost will go up.
Homey D. Clown Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Retractable Dome is the answer. Definitely... I went to the Bills-Dallas game a couple of years ago, and that stadium was lame in every sense of the word. I was really nice out in Dallas that day, and you wouldn't have known it. I was also at the St. Louis game when trentative was starting, and that felt like a football stadium crammed into the old Aud. That place is a shithole
May Day 10 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 [quot Split the difference with a retractable dome and no matter his state of the art, we'll never get a SB unless maybe we build it in Niagara Falls. honest question: Have you ever been to Niagara Falls, USA? (assuming a roof) The Super Bowl would come to Buffalo if and only if the development continues downtown and things continue to turn around solidly for another decade. Even then, it is very iffy. Niagara Falls is a toxic wasteland that shows no promise at all. Zero. There is nothing going on there and plopping a stadium in an undersized inaccessible corner of WNY is not going to magically create development, even if NYS drops a few bucks in improving the roads. I work in Niagara Falls and even on major roads I have to swerve around potholes the size of craters. The city has major problems deep in its bones a stadium wont fix, and if anything, it would further highlight its problems.
Beerball Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 You place the stadium. http://www.19ideas.com/stadium/ http://www.wgrz.com/story/news/local/2014/05/22/website-lets-you-choose-new-bills-stadium-site/9472271/
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 I don't want to hear any crap about tradition in Buffalo or the weather is our advantage BS. It hasn't been an advantage since Kelly retired. Hell Even Ralph Wilson went to the league and asked December games be mostly away because of attendance. So lets cut the crap and get into the 20 teens here and get with the times. New stadium needs to be a DOME. Then we can start getting games in December(you know...playoff run time?) back at our house. We can fill the thing regardless of weather, it will be an attraction to the rest of the NFL fan base AND... Wait for it.... We might even get to host a Superbowl. *GASP*. Why did Minnesota get the superbowl a couple days ago? Because the NFL awards cities with new stadiums that's why. Bottom line, screw the cold and build a damn dome already. BTW I am betting some potential FA's worth a damn might actually prefer playing in Buffalo if we had a domed stadium. Just sayin... Dome or no dome, it would help our injury rate if the new stadium had grass not turf. Turf is evil.
PromoTheRobot Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 If the stadium was downtown UB could play their games their too. Students could get to games via the Metro. So there's 6 more dates of use.
oman128 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 The Bills playing in the New facility is the main thing, but there is so much more we can attract to Buffalo. With a new Fixed or Retractable Roof we could host the NFL Draft. Think of all the players coaches and media that swarm to NYC. That is all huge tourism money, that would come to Buffalo (hotels, restaurants, cabs, limos, trips to Niagara Falls etc.) I think given all the new hotel rooms planned and under contruction, there would be more than enough. This size event is big enough and important, If Buffalo does a great job of hosting, the NFL would come back again, and it would create goodwill, and maybe change some hearts and minds about Buffalo NY.
jimmy10 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Have you ever seen an nfl game in a dome? Its all artificial light, its way darker than open air stadiums, and it feels like arena football. Agree completely. I was at the Bills game in Atlanta in 2009. With the translucent roof on the Georgia Dome, it was like watching a game in a shopping mall under fluorescent lights. Absolutely terrible atmosphere. However, I say again, it matters not to me what the venue is like. If it keeps the Bills here long-term, I am for it.
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Funding a new Stadium will be difficult enough BUT Domes are more expensive. I'm not suggesting we do anything "on the cheap" but Domed Stadiums never last as long as a more traditional open version. They're also much more labor/maintenance intensive for their service lives. Keep the BILLS in WNY, but if a Stadium is eventually built, keep it on the more traditional open plan.
Beerball Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 If the stadium was downtown UB could play their games their too. Students could get to games via the Metro. So there's 6 more dates of use. That kind of tie in would be awesome. You place the stadium. http://www.19ideas.com/stadium/ http://www.wgrz.com/...m-site/9472271/ Website Lets You Choose New Bills Stadium Site Yolo says turnabout is fair play!
Kellyto83TD Posted May 23, 2014 Author Posted May 23, 2014 Again... Domed or a retractable roof. Otherwise its a waste of time and money and the Bills will continue to suffer schedule wise. Time to appeal to a broader audience than a few 'Hard core' fans. Seats need to be filled and filled in November, December and hopefully January.
26CornerBlitz Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 That kind of tie in would be awesome. Yolo says turnabout is fair play! Touche
Kellyto83TD Posted May 23, 2014 Author Posted May 23, 2014 The Bills playing in the New facility is the main thing, but there is so much more we can attract to Buffalo. With a new Fixed or Retractable Roof we could host the NFL Draft. Think of all the players coaches and media that swarm to NYC. That is all huge tourism money, that would come to Buffalo (hotels, restaurants, cabs, limos, trips to Niagara Falls etc.) I think given all the new hotel rooms planned and under contruction, there would be more than enough. This size event is big enough and important, If Buffalo does a great job of hosting, the NFL would come back again, and it would create goodwill, and maybe change some hearts and minds about Buffalo NY. Exactly but we have some folks stuck in the 60's-early 90's. Times have vastly changed. Its past time for the Bills to start catching up to the rest of the NFL. Start appealing to a bigger audience, bring in more money, better FA's etc.
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