CountDorkula Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Why is it that tailgating is derogatory ? For me it's having a beer with my dad, grandfather and brother while tossing a football with my 4 yr old and grilling Italian sausages in anticipation of the game. It's a great experience with family. If we allow the lowest common denominator to stand as the general representation of every facet of life, then every experience you can think of is corrupted by the stupid and irresponsible into something bad. That said, I AM willing to venture a guess that the bills never would have had the success filling the stadium during the last 15 years of futility if it wasn't for the whole fan game day experience. So if they kill tailgating they best do a dam good job replacing it with another great fan experience, or they are just going to have to perpetually win going forward. I'll take the latter... Sure Maybe for you it is about having that one beer. But I would say the majority take it way too far and it is no longer the lowest common demoninator. It's no longer about what you described above, it is about how fast and how much you can drink.
billykaykay Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Fans were also allowed to bring kegs into the Rockpile...not sure it's a fair comparison. This reminds me that a friend went to a game at the Rockpile with a buddy & put a quarter keg on a 3rd seat. One lady complained but my friend produced a ticket for the "keg seat".
Manther Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I have only been to 4 NFL stadiums. Buffalo, Cleveland, Dallas (the new stadium) and Chicago. All 4 had more than sufficient tailgating. What new era stadium's don't have tailgating? Dallas is a new stadium and they had tons of tailgating. What are other NFL stadiums like? What are the approximate percentages of good and poor tailgating in the NFL? What would constitute poor tailgating? Thanks all!
chris heff Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 If the NFL were smart, they would just go right to making 20,000 seat venues with domes and charge top dollar for premium amenities and field proximity while CGIing the backdrop for TV purposes. Why fly to a stadium in London or Paris when you can play stateside and simply superimpose extraordinary backdrops. They could play on the moon, a moon of Saturn, the center of an active volcano, or in a dome at the bottom of the ocean with neon fish checking out the game on the cheap. Better yet, the fans get to chose at home what the backdrop looks like. They could superimpose all kinds of extreme weather if they wished. I think it's the future of home viewing, sooner or later. This post kind of makes your Username ironic.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Goodell sux. Money ,Money,Money. O.P. is the best place for the fans. It just won`t be the same gameday .
RealityCheck Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 This post kind of makes your Username ironic. The NFL could team up with Pixar. It would be a slam dunk. The yellow first down marker is part of the journey, not the destination.
oman128 Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Some tailgate are fun and others are nothing more than drunken idiots, peeing on the tires of someone's car and bowling in the parking lot using a keg and beer bottles. Both of which I've seen. It wouldn't bother me at all to see less tailgaiting and more folks in bars and restaurants. Edited May 21, 2014 by oman128
Sherrif John Brown Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Beer + Captain Morgan.= wasting way too much money inside & @ Bills Store. Logic, people! I have only been to 4 NFL stadiums. Buffalo, Cleveland, Dallas (the new stadium) and Chicago. All 4 had more than sufficient tailgating. What new era stadium's don't have tailgating? Dallas is a new stadium and they had tons of tailgating. What are other NFL stadiums like? What are the approximate percentages of good and poor tailgating in the NFL? What would constitute poor tailgating? Thanks all! Panthers games are weak sauce compared to The Ralph!
BarleyNY Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Russ was on WGR this morning and I was frankly kind of surprised that he said that whole we all know there are committees in place where they are looking at options for building a new stadium, but that retro-fitting with the reno they are doing now might do the trick. I feel like that was not an option after hearing Goodell's statement. Here is the audio: http://audio.wgr550....ndon-on-wgr.htm IMO, they are in denial. A new stadium is needed. There is no way around it. I agree. No way does a new owner keep the team in Buffalo without a new stadium. Renovating the existing one has to be explored, but I'd bet everyone involved knows the reality is that it won't be feasible. But if they don't look into it as a possibility they will be in for big PR problems. They have to go through all of the steps. I've been to the old and new Cleveland stadiums, Cincy's and Pittsburgh's in addition to Buffalo's. The only one worse than the Ralph was the one Cleveland knocked down. I don't see how - even without ownership change - it was going to be renovated. It's that bad. A new owner will get a new stadium along with the revenues it generates and they'll do it here or in Toronto or elsewhere. The city will pony up or they'll lose the team.
Beerball Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 I have only been to 4 NFL stadiums. Buffalo, Cleveland, Dallas (the new stadium) and Chicago. All 4 had more than sufficient tailgating. What new era stadium's don't have tailgating? Dallas is a new stadium and they had tons of tailgating. What are other NFL stadiums like? What are the approximate percentages of good and poor tailgating in the NFL? What would constitute poor tailgating? Thanks all! AT&T stadium (Arlington, TX) has only 12,000 parking spaces in 15 lots. Of those 15 lots 10 allow tailgating. Of those 10 that allow tailgating it is allowed on the outside perimeter of the lot only. The parking space must have a grass area behind it. Parking is by permit only. That's pretty restrictive. Buffalo will not have the space concerns of a major metropolitan area. Unless the stadium is placed in an area where space is at a premium I would expect that the tailgating tradition will continue.
YoloinOhio Posted May 23, 2014 Author Posted May 23, 2014 Beer + Captain Morgan.= wasting way too much money inside & @ Bills Store. Logic, people! Panthers games are weak sauce compared to The Ralph! I went to a Panthers game back when they first started up, Kerry Collins era, circa 1997. It was a wine and cheese crowd with a touch of Nascar. Weird. They were good, too.
Campy Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 I went to a Panthers game back when they first started up, Kerry Collins era, circa 1997. It was a wine and cheese crowd with a touch of Nascar. Weird. They were good, too. I was down there for a Sunday night game when Flutie was the QB and I think you paint a pretty accurate portrait of their tailgate scene.
jimmy10 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 I was down there for a Sunday night game when Flutie was the QB and I think you paint a pretty accurate portrait of their tailgate scene. The NFL in North Carolina is just a two-month minor distraction while everyone waits for college basketball to get started.
Not at the table Karlos Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 If the site can hold 10,000 cars at $40 apiece, 10 home games would net the new owner $4 million per season in easy unshared revenue. well I know what my next business venture is going to be.
Hammered a Lot Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Goodell sux. Money ,Money,Money. O.P. is the best place for the fans. It just won`t be the same gameday .
BarleyNY Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Goodell sux. Money ,Money,Money. O.P. is the best place for the fans. It just won`t be the same gameday . Well, that's his job. The owners didn't vote him head of the league for his wit and charm. He's there to make the teams as much money as possible and if he wasn't good at doing that he'd be long gone already. He has to balance that with other things - long term league viability, image, etc. - but it is his main job.
DukeyBomb Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 I second that to everyone who is worried tailgating will not be the same. I truly believe we have an atmosphere second to none and it's 50% of the experience. I will not enjoy going to games as much if they are let's say DOWNTOWN.
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Don't quote me on this... I am pretty sure in Chicago, you can't be in the parking lots during the game without a ticket. They have been sold out for years. People would tailgate, the one's with tickets would go into the game and the one's (in a party) without tickets would sit in the lot and watch the game on TV... Watching the stuff or getting ready for their party to come back after the game ended for a post game tailgate... That's all ended... No ticket, you can't be in the lot during the game.
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