Dante Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Admittedly I don't know a lot about Common Core although I have my suspicions. I ran across this article by accident while searching for something else. I had heard that the American Revolution and the Constitution were being stripped out of the curriculum and was looking for info on it. Anyway, I never knew that domestic terrorist/communist Bil Ayers is a major player spearheading Common Core. One of the many disturbing facts in this read. The format is kind of difficult as it looks like a pdf of a magazine layout. http://www.constitutionalcoalition.com/index.cfm/linkservid/965F99B9-355B-49B2-BD8CCA177359ABBB/showMeta/0/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) The only thing I know about common core is that under the new method of teaching I can no longer do a fourth graders math homework. Edited May 16, 2014 by Jauronimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Its funny, I just put down an article on a waiting room on Common Core. Kentucky has had success in since implementing these standards in 2010 in increasing Math, Reading, College Prepardness and Graduation rates among public school students. I guess Common Core was created with College and Work as the ultimate goal, meaning what skills do kids need to have to succeed in those two areas. Also, it was created to help our children compete for better proficiency in stated areas as compared to kids internationally, where we rank behind many other nations. 4 States were yet to adopt the standards, TX, NB Al and one other I can't remember. The contention is is takes control out of the hand of local governments over education, but I am ot sure. The only thing I know about common core is that under the new method of teaching I can no longer do a fourth graders math homework. The article said that 10th grade material was now being introduced in 8th grade. Less skills, more in depth. Sounds interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The only thing I know about common core is that under the new method of teaching I can no longer do a fourth graders math homework. Is that how you'd been luring them into your van? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I was looking at some examples of elemntary school math only yesterday, and it looked pretty cumbersome to me. I can understand the rationale behind teaching the purpose of arithmetic in conjunction with the math itself, but the method in which they do so seems utterly bizarre to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Is that how you'd been luring them into your van? BAM!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 “TODAY I AM ASHAMED. I AM ASHAMED I DIDN’T DO ENOUGH TO STOP THIS MADNESS:” Students around the country are taking high-stakes Common Core-aligned standardized tests now and some teachers are expressing unhappiness about having to administer them. Some are refusing to administer them and others are going public with their concerns about the nature of the tests and the emphasis being placed on them by policymakers. Numerous problems have been reported with these tests in New York, including badly worded questions, unfair cut scores that determine who does well and who doesn’t, and booklets with blank pages. The headline above, from a a Long Island elementary school teacher quoted in the Washington Post is actually a nice obit for the last six years. S.C. SENATE VOTES TO REPEAL COMMON CORE: Their vote was unanimous. If approved by the State House, S.C. would develop its own curriculum as an alternative. What a radical idea: locally devised and controlled curriculum! New York Gets Cold Feet On Common Core. It’s an out-of-date idea, badly executed. JOHN STOSSEL ON THE COMMON CORE CONTROVERSY: This may sound good. Often, states dumb down tests to try to “leave no child behind.” How can government evaluate teachers and reward successful schools if there isn’t a single national standard? But when the federal government imposes a single teaching plan on 15,000 school districts across the country, that’s even more central planning, and central planning rarely works. It brings stagnation. Education is a discovery process like any other human endeavor. We might be wrong about both how to teach and what to teach, but we won’t realize it unless we can experiment — compare and contrast the results of different approaches. Having “one plan” makes it harder to experiment and figure out what works. Some people are terrified to hear “education” and “experiment” in the same sentence. Why take a risk with something as important as my child’s education? Pick the best education methods and teach everyone that way! But we don’t know what the best way to educate kids is. As American education has become more centralized, the rest of our lives have become increasingly diverse and tailored to individual needs. Every minute, thousands of entrepreneurs struggle to improve their products. Quality increases, and costs often drop. But centrally planned K-12 education doesn’t improve. Per-student spending has tripled (governments now routinely spend $300,000 per classroom!), but test results are stagnant. “Everyone who has children knows that they’re all different, right? They learn differently,” observed Sabrina Schaeffer of the Independent Women’s Forum on my show. “In the workplace, we’re allowing people flexibility to telecommute, to have shared jobs. In entertainment, people buy and watch what they want, when they want.” Having one inflexible model for education “is so old-fashioned.” . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Hang on; I thought only lunatic, anti-education, right-wingers in Texas had a problem with Common Core? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Is that how you'd been luring them into your van? What the f@#$ is the matter with you? Candy. Its always been candy. Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Hang on; I thought only lunatic, anti-education, right-wingers in Texas had a problem with Common Core? Kentucky has a Democratic Governor, so I don't know if its his decision/ role- but I guess ideology is set aside and you will try anything if what you're doing isnt working? Heck, if Common Core produces desirable results that t help American kids become more competitive in the world, why no build on that? School Choice is often described as a loony right wing plot to undermine public schools and **** on poor kids- but in realilty, it helps alot of people with no choices among **** options. Common Core in that article in described as Socialist Indoctrination Manifesto, but in reality it seems to work in some places where performance and results are poor. If it works, why not build on it? Seems pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Common Core = Send your child to private school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 Kentucky has a Democratic Governor, so I don't know if its his decision/ role- but I guess ideology is set aside and you will try anything if what you're doing isnt working? Heck, if Common Core produces desirable results that t help American kids become more competitive in the world, why no build on that? School Choice is often described as a loony right wing plot to undermine public schools and **** on poor kids- but in realilty, it helps alot of people with no choices among **** options. Common Core in that article in described as Socialist Indoctrination Manifesto, but in reality it seems to work in some places where performance and results are poor. If it works, why not build on it? Seems pretty simple. Pretty simple. Anything that is put together by lunatic left wing nuts like Ayers should be used as ass wipe and flushed. Run, don't walk away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Admittedly I don't know a lot about Common Core although I have my suspicions. I ran across this article by accident while searching for something else. I had heard that the American Revolution and the Constitution were being stripped out of the curriculum and was looking for info on it. Anyway, I never knew that domestic terrorist/communist Bil Ayers is a major player spearheading Common Core. One of the many disturbing facts in this read. The format is kind of difficult as it looks like a pdf of a magazine layout. http://www.constitut...BBB/showMeta/0/ !@#$ing retarded read. I stopped when I got to "Benghazi." Common Core itself is nothing more than a set of milestones, mostly common sense, that teachers and students should aim for in education. The IMPLEMENTATION of Common Core is what gets completely !@#$ed up by the states...and in Common Core's defense, those states would almost certainly !@#$ up any plans, roadmaps, or guidelines they were given (God knows California's been doing just that for at least 40 years.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 COMMON CORE WILL COST FOUR TIMES MORE THAN PROJECTED: And as is so often the case, California is getting the worst of it. A California commission has just decided the technology costs for Common Core tests are an unfunded mandate, which will require state taxpayers to cough up approximately $4 billion more to local school districts, Californian and former U.S. Department of Education official Ze’ev Wurman tells The Federalist. This adds to the extra $3.5 billion the legislature gave schools for Common Core in spring 2015 and a separate infusion of $1.7 billion Gov. Jerry Brown snagged for Common Core spread across fiscal years 2014 and 2015. That makes a total of approximately $9.2 billion above and beyond existing tax expenditures Californians will pay to have Common Core injected into their state. This even though both vested and independent analyses found that California’s pre-Common Core curriculum mandates were of higher quality than the Common Core that replaced it. You read that right: Californians got their kids worse instruction, and are paying $9.2 billion extra for it. I can tell you there’s also a huge hidden cost in having to re-teach a child the right way to do his homework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 COMMON CORE WILL COST FOUR TIMES MORE THAN PROJECTED: And as is so often the case, California is getting the worst of it. A California commission has just decided the technology costs for Common Core tests are an unfunded mandate, which will require state taxpayers to cough up approximately $4 billion more to local school districts, Californian and former U.S. Department of Education official Ze’ev Wurman tells The Federalist. This adds to the extra $3.5 billion the legislature gave schools for Common Core in spring 2015 and a separate infusion of $1.7 billion Gov. Jerry Brown snagged for Common Core spread across fiscal years 2014 and 2015. That makes a total of approximately $9.2 billion above and beyond existing tax expenditures Californians will pay to have Common Core injected into their state. This even though both vested and independent analyses found that California’s pre-Common Core curriculum mandates were of higher quality than the Common Core that replaced it. You read that right: Californians got their kids worse instruction, and are paying $9.2 billion extra for it. I can tell you there’s also a huge hidden cost in having to re-teach a child the right way to do his homework. What the !@#$ could they possibly need an additional $10b for? I am so sick of this ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 What the !@#$ could they possibly need an additional $10b for? I am so sick of this ****. Common Core is a commercial standard, licensed to schools. And teachers have to be trained in delivering it. No doubt the lion's share of that $10B is going to private companies providing that licensing and training. Over the holidays I was talking to a 10 year old about school and math. She's already well on her way to intermediate algebra on her own, but she's not allowed to use it in class because it's "the wrong way to solve math problems." She has to stick with this bass-ackwards paleolithic methodological stupidity to get good grades. It was actually pretty funny, listening to a fifth grader B word about how unbelievable useless Common Core is, and how stupid it was that she had bureaucrats telling her at arm's length that the wrong way to do things was actually the right way, and how she hated having to kowtow to these bozos and knowingly do things improperly just to get good grades. It was like being in one of those AT&T "It's not complicated" commercials. And yes, she reminded me of me when I was 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 She called you and idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Common Core is a commercial standard, licensed to schools. And teachers have to be trained in delivering it. No doubt the lion's share of that $10B is going to private companies providing that licensing and training. Whoa. I'm in the wrong business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Whoa. I'm in the wrong business. If you really want to make a fortune, come up with something analogous for medicine, then lobby Congress to mandate it as part of "health care reform." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 If you really want to make a fortune, come up with something analogous for medicine, then lobby Congress to mandate it as part of "health care reform." Weed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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