Dante Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 I'm starting to really like this guy.I wish he was our first black potus it would be a much better situation now. "Carson said he has no illusions about running. “It’s a daunting thing,” he told me. “I know how vehemently the left will come after you, try to destroy you, try to destroy your family. But at the same time I recognize that people like Nathan Hale – he said, ‘My only regret is I have but one life to give to my country’ … And if everybody runs for the hills because they’re afraid that somebody is going to attack them or their family, then [the left] will have won.” http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/15/sure-sounds-like-ben-carsons-running-for-president/ Go Ben!
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Zero chance of winning. I don't think he would run to win, he'd never make it through the primaries. I think he would run to influence the National Conversation, in the same vein as Ron Paul. Dr. Carson has dynamic ideas as to how to administer meaningful National Healthcare. Ideas that the GOP needs to adopt and promote.
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 I would love if Dr Carson ran. Im hoping he does. He would be a great voice to espouse conservative ideas . It would be amazing to see how quickly the "tolerant" left calls him a sell out and goes full racist against him because he does not follow their agenda of relying upon the government.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 I would love if Dr Carson ran. Im hoping he does. He would be a great voice to espouse conservative ideas . It would be amazing to see how quickly the "tolerant" left calls him a sell out and goes full racist against him because he does not follow their agenda of relying upon the government. You already saw examples of it in 2013 when he called the ACA the worst thing to happen in America since slavery. The left went nuts and he became a punchline. I don't think he would run to win, he'd never make it through the primaries. I think he would run to influence the National Conversation, in the same vein as Ron Paul. Dr. Carson has dynamic ideas as to how to administer meaningful National Healthcare. Ideas that the GOP needs to adopt and promote. You're probably right and in that case, more power to him.
3rdnlng Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 You already saw examples of it in 2013 when he called the ACA the worst thing to happen in America since slavery. The left went nuts and he became a punchline. You're probably right and in that case, more power to him. To use your words, he's "dreamy" to me.
Who is Yuri? Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 All that Trump talk has made that other thread a circus. Here we can have reasonable debates.
Who is Yuri? Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 Trump's VP I'll not be baited into a discussion about Trump. So, what's this about Carson and Sanders being similar. Is there anything to that? Will Carson get the support of the Republican establishment?
B-Man Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 All that Trump talk has made that other thread a circus. Here we can have reasonable debates. From the Trump thread......... Trump and Carson are neck and neck in Iowa. Who here can swallow their racism and back the good doctor? Lol. Ha, ha, ha! She made the wind turbines slaughtering birds argument! Oh Carly! You've really got to watch out for those Mexican truck drivers with well paying jobs, abandoning their well paying jobs and deciding to start their life with nothing in a new country. Did I say starting with nothing? I meant mucho, mucho benefits. I mean, they'll practically be rich on the $6 per day food stamps that they won't be getting. They'll live like kings on the Medicaid that they won't qualify for. Those lucky bastards. Why, oh Lordy, wasn't I born a Mexican truck driver? Reasonable debates................... .
billsfan89 Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 The man thinks Noah's Ark is real and that scientists are lying about evolution (Not to mention a doctor thinks being gay is a choice not a biologically based condition). Any civilized country with access to information would just immediately dismiss him. But with the Republican base he will do great.
Magox Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 The man thinks Noah's Ark is real and that scientists are lying about evolution (Not to mention a doctor thinks being gay is a choice not a biologically based condition). Any civilized country with access to information would just immediately dismiss him. But with the Republican base he will do great. That may be true, but let's not forget that you are enamored with a 73 year old socialist who has no shot in winning in this country, which makes you the even larger outlier.
B-Man Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 The man thinks Noah's Ark is real and that scientists are lying about evolution (Not to mention a doctor thinks being gay is a choice not a biologically based condition). Any civilized country with access to information would just immediately dismiss him. But with the Republican base he will do great. Link please.......................... .
Who is Yuri? Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 From the Trump thread......... Reasonable debates................... . What's that? A Greatest Hits album? We deserve a fresh start. TYTT is counting on a rational debate, and it just isn't happening in a discussion about Trump. I want to learn more about conservative views on Dr. Carson.
Magox Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 A little earlier in the interview, which took place in February 2013, host David Boze asked, "What about the diversity of life here. How has your examination of life here influenced your view on the theory of evolution and whether or not there’s an intelligent designer?" Carson, who was the director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital and co-director of the Johns Hopkins Craniofacial Center, said, "Well, the evolutionists look at the similarities that you see in the various life forms and they say, because this creature and this creature share the same type of digestive system or the same type of structures in their head, that clearly one evolved from the other." "I don’t know how clear that is," he said. "Because if you have an intelligent designer, why wouldn’t he use a basic structure that works on multiple different creatures? Just like an automobile manufacturer. General Motors, same basic chassis as Chevrolet, a Buick, a Pontiac, or a Cadillac. And yet, they’re all different. And one did not evolve from the other." "And why would you have to go and completely change the motor, the chassis, and all the other infrastructure because you’re creating a different model?" said Carson. "That doesn’t make any sense to me. I think one of the most damning pieces of evidence against evolution is the human genome." Continuing with his point about the human genome, Dr. Carson said, "You can see that you have a very complex, sophisticated coding mechanism for different amino acids and various sequences that give you millions of different genetic instruction – very much like computer programming, which uses a series of zeros and ones and different sequences, it gives you very specific information about what that computer is to do." "Well this [human genome] is at least twice that complex," he said. "Instead of just 2 digits, we’ve got 4 digits, repeating in different sequences but always resulting in the same thing unless there is a mutation. And if there is a mutation, it tends to be toward degeneration rather than improvement." http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/ben-carson-evolution-life-evolve-non-life-incredible-fairy-tales What's that? A Greatest Hits album? We deserve a fresh start. TYTT is counting on a rational debate, and it just isn't happening in a discussion about Trump. I want to learn more about conservative views on Dr. Carson. I think some conservatives like him because, well.....He's likable. He's also obviously extremely intelligent, he's not your ordinary doctor, he was the first doctor to successfully separate Siamese twins (I think). He was the first doctor to do surgery on a fetus inside the mother's womb. So obviously he's a smart dude. The way he talks he's very thoughtful, which I happen to like. He's a man of faith and I know many in the GOP like that. I don't believe he will go far, I could be wrong, but for right now, he's a very appealing anti establishment candidate. Trump's VP Why would Ben Carson want to be the VP of someone who thinks Nancy Pelosi is "the greatest"?
Who is Yuri? Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/ben-carson-evolution-life-evolve-non-life-incredible-fairy-tales That's fine. Intelligent design. Awe and respect for God. The stance he takes on being a steward of the earth will be important to me. I'm encouraged by what he wrote about the environment in America the Beautiful.
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) What's that? A Greatest Hits album? We deserve a fresh start. TYTT is counting on a rational debate, and it just isn't happening in a discussion about Trump. I want to learn more about conservative views on Dr. Carson. Dr. Carson is a brilliant man, though that alone does not qualify him to be president. I'll echo Magox in stating that his thoughtful and honest approach is very endearing to what I would hope would be both conservatives and liberals alike, even though liberals might not agree with his views on taxation. He's not my candidate, but what I do think he brings to the table, is a very unique approach to health care; and that needs to be talked about more. Edited August 31, 2015 by TakeYouToTasker
Who is Yuri? Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Dr. Carson is a brilliant man, though that alone does not qualify him to be president. I'll echo Magox in stating that his thoughtful and honest approach is very endearing to what I would hope would be both conservatives and liberals alike, even though liberals might not agree with his views on taxation. He's not my candidate, but what I do think he brings to the table, is a very unique approach to health care; and that needs to be talked about more. He's likable to me. If he wants to close loopholes that allow for tax evasion by large corporations and incredibly wealthy individuals, that's fine too. I'll look into his views on healthcare... that health savings account is interesting. Edited September 1, 2015 by Franz Kafka
B-Man Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 We deserve a fresh start. TYTT is counting on a rational debate, and it just isn't happening in a discussion about Trump. I want to learn more about conservative views on Dr. Carson. Fair enough Frank, but what you will learn is that, like all candidates, there are things that conservatives value about him and things they are concerned about. No one is 100% If you want to learn, I can give you some direct quotes (not media analysis) and you can decide on your own. GOP presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson stated “I don’t believe in the progressive model of you poor, poor little thing, you’re the victim and I’m going to take care of you” on Wednesday’s “Fox & Friends” on the Fox News Channel. Carson said, “I have a very deep concern for the downtrodden in our society. If you go back and you look at my history, you will see that is consistently the pattern, putting in reading rooms, particularly in Title I schools around the country, going around and speaking at schools. I had a program at the hospital where we had hundreds of kids come in, and I would talk to them, and show them slides, and try to get them encouraged. It’s just that I don’t believe in the progressive model of you poor, poor little thing, you’re the victim and I’m going to take care of you, because that’s not getting us anywhere, and I’m trying to wake people up.” He added, “it’s a false narrative that I want to get rid of all of welfare and all the programs. That’s just something that the left-wing puts out to try to make me seem like a bad guy. That’s absolutely a lie. But what I do want to do is get business, industry, academia, Wall Street, churches, community groups involved and investing in people around them. Because that’s the only thing that brings people out.” And “since the 60s, we’ve spent over 19 trillion dollars on the war on poverty. What do we have? 10 times more people on food stamps, more welfare, more incarceration and crime, broken families, out of wedlock birth. Everything was supposed to be better, it’s not only worse, it’s much worse http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/08/12/carson-i-dont-believe-in-the-progressive-model-of-you-poor-poor-little-thing/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social Refreshingly different from the pony-tailed “domestic mediator” in the audience of the 1992 Town Hall debate who asked the candidates (Bush 1, Perot, and Bill Clinton) to ‘think of us as your children, and tell us how you will take care of us.’
Azalin Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 He's likable to me. If he wants to close loopholes that allow for tax evasion by large corporations and incredibly wealthy individuals, that's fine too. FWIW, loopholes aren't a means of evading taxes, but are exemptions, like being able to write off the interest on your mortgage. Your use of the term illustrates your bias.
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