C.Biscuit97 Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 QB A - Last year in college: 259 for 382 (67.8%), 3,581 yards, 9.4 ypa, 25 tds, 9 ints, 163.4 rating, 87 rushes for 272 yards, 3.1 ypc, 6 tds. 83th ranked Strength of Schedule Combine results: 6'5", 232 lbs., 9 3/8" hands, 4.93 40, 32.5" vertical. QB B - Last year in college: 263 for 387 (68%), 3,392 yards, 8.8 ypa, 23 tds, 10 ints, 156 rating, 103 rushes for 310 yards, 3.0 ypc, 4 tds. 68th ranked SOS. Combine results: 6'5", 237 lbs., 10 3/8" hands, 4.65 40, 34" vertical. Hint, one was a reach and the other was thought to be a top pick all offseason. The draft is stupid at times.
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Posted May 12, 2014 Oh come on...the other is EJ Haha. Was it that easy? But someone please explain it to me. EJ is the better athlete with bigger hands, and had basically the same stats against a tougher schedule. Yet, he's a reach and Mel Kiper gives the Jags an A for selecting Bortles #3 overall.
CSBill Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Haha. Was it that easy? But someone please explain it to me. EJ is the better athlete with bigger hands, and had basically the same stats against a tougher schedule. Yet, he's a reach and Mel Kiper gives the Jags an A for selecting Bortles #3 overall. because Mel is a #@$%$$#@ !!!
PO'14 Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Well, I figured it was EJ, but then I understood, "Last year in College" as last season, not last year playing in College.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Because it's been easier in recent history to claim anything buffalo does is wrong. That's all I've got. Makes no sense to me either.
Captain Hindsight Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Haha. Was it that easy? But someone please explain it to me. EJ is the better athlete with bigger hands, and had basically the same stats against a tougher schedule. Yet, he's a reach and Mel Kiper gives the Jags an A for selecting Bortles #3 overall. Because the Bills fooled everyone and Geno was supposed to have 6 Mvps by now
Chandler#81 Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Good stats for an ACC player on a very good team -which doesn't mean Jack in the NFL. Does the C in C.Biscuit stand for Crusader? In the Chandler#81 straw poll, 10% of Bills fans think EJ sucks and will be out of the League in 4 years. 10% of Bills fans think EJ will be Montana/Kelly-esque great (you). 30% of Bills fans think his ceiling will be an adequate QB, with flashes of greatness and dashes of stupidity and 50% just HOPE the Bills Brass is right in hitching their wagons to him, as the careers of very good players and the horrible playoff drought rest in the balance. BUT.. the 80% not in the first two groups, are concerned.
Buftex Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 I think, somewhere along the way, Mel started taking payola to hype some of these kids...
fansince88 Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Good stats for an ACC player on a very good team -which doesn't mean Jack in the NFL. Does the C in C.Biscuit stand for Crusader? In the Chandler#81 straw poll, 10% of Bills fans think EJ sucks and will be out of the League in 4 years. 10% of Bills fans think EJ will be Montana/Kelly-esque great (you). 30% of Bills fans think his ceiling will be an adequate QB, with flashes of greatness and dashes of stupidity and 50% just HOPE the Bills Brass is right in hitching their wagons to him, as the careers of very good players and the horrible playoff drought rest in the balance. BUT.. the 80% not in the first two groups, are concerned. Im the 1% that say....what you say???
KRT88 Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 QB A - Last year in college: 259 for 382 (67.8%), 3,581 yards, 9.4 ypa, 25 tds, 9 ints, 163.4 rating, 87 rushes for 272 yards, 3.1 ypc, 6 tds. 83th ranked Strength of Schedule Combine results: 6'5", 232 lbs., 9 3/8" hands, 4.93 40, 32.5" vertical. QB B - Last year in college: 263 for 387 (68%), 3,392 yards, 8.8 ypa, 23 tds, 10 ints, 156 rating, 103 rushes for 310 yards, 3.0 ypc, 4 tds. 68th ranked SOS. Combine results: 6'5", 237 lbs., 10 3/8" hands, 4.65 40, 34" vertical. Hint, one was a reach and the other was thought to be a top pick all offseason. The draft is stupid at times. Well because..... Actually that is a great comparison, plus it funny how one can be one thing and one can be viewed completely different. You should send that to Mel himself and see what Mr. Hair thinks.
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) As little as I have been following this, I glanced @ articles saying Bortles WAS an extreme reach. @ #3, it is almost insane. @ least EJ was in @ 16. Thank God there is JAX around to take the heat off the Bills for looking stupid. Edited May 12, 2014 by ExiledInIllinois
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Maybe Kiper thinks Caldwell, Jags GM, knows a thing or two about picking a QB.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Good stats for an ACC player on a very good team -which doesn't mean Jack in the NFL. Does the C in C.Biscuit stand for Crusader? In the Chandler#81 straw poll, 10% of Bills fans think EJ sucks and will be out of the League in 4 years. 10% of Bills fans think EJ will be Montana/Kelly-esque great (you). 30% of Bills fans think his ceiling will be an adequate QB, with flashes of greatness and dashes of stupidity and 50% just HOPE the Bills Brass is right in hitching their wagons to him, as the careers of very good players and the horrible playoff drought rest in the balance. BUT.. the 80% not in the first two groups, are concerned. Or in other words the jury is still out for 80% and the other 20% don't know anything either but are jockeying for first "I told you do rights" if goes their way!
JESSEFEFFER Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Then there are the <1% of "fans" that would rather be right than see their team succeed. Some psych student should do a thesis on them.
Manther Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Haha. Was it that easy? But someone please explain it to me. EJ is the better athlete with bigger hands, and had basically the same stats against a tougher schedule. Yet, he's a reach and Mel Kiper gives the Jags an A for selecting Bortles #3 overall. Kiper's knowledge is strong. His actual picks and grades are very biased. I just ignore him for picks and grades. But, appreciate is knowledge. He hates the Bills! Well because..... Actually that is a great comparison, plus it funny how one can be one thing and one can be viewed completely different. You should send that to Mel himself and see what Mr. Hair thinks. Would LOVE to see Mel explain this. One taken at #3 and the team gets an "A". The other is traded back gaining a 2nd round pick and the Bills are largely criticized for it. REALLY?!
ganesh Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Hint, one was a reach and the other was thought to be a top pick all offseason. The draft is stupid at times. To be fair, every talking head says that Bortles would need significant coaching including feet movements for a year before he should be pushed in as the starter. The Bills, to their credit, attempted to do that exactly with EJ, but the veteran QB Kolb never got to the season opener forcing EJ to be the starter. I am just going to mark EJ's play as growing pains and hope he has the whole off season to correct his flaws.
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