YoloinOhio Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Just listened to this live. This is a very interesting interview re: Byrd and Stevie. I think he held back on Stevie a bit but that is to be expected.
Green Lightning Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Good give and take. Howard and Jeremy pushed him on Stevie and Byrd. But Doug's the deal. Seems confident. He also seems like a guy that will pull the trigger on those who don't measure up...hope Marone was listening.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Can someone paraphrase what Whaley said about SJ and Byrd? CBF
Campy Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Can someone paraphrase what Whaley said about SJ and Byrd? CBF Byrd - The team assigns grades and value to all players on the roster. Byrd is a very good player but he thought his value was higher than the team did. In fact, they paid Byrd more last year using the tag than they thought he was worth. Since the valuation and compensation were out of whack and because of the drama it would have brought to their off/pre season programs, they chose not to tag him. Johnson - Before the draft, the Bills reached out to all teams to get a feel for their needs and the positions where they're deep (and vice-versa). After picking Sammy, the Niners were well aware the Bills were (too) deep at WR and asked about Stevie. Stevie's a good WR who did a lot of good on the field and in the community, but when they weighed his production against the offer the Niners made, they made the deal because it was right in line with how the valued him and what they would need to get for him. Thanks to Stevie for everything and what player wouldn't want to go home and play for his hometown team? It was win-win.
26CornerBlitz Posted May 12, 2014 Author Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) Can someone paraphrase what Whaley said about SJ and Byrd?CBF The Bills were not actively shopping Stevie, but the 49ers called the Bills after Watkins was drafted. Whaley believes the deal will be beneficial for all parties concerned including Stevie. The Bills placed a value on Byrd that was less than what he received from NO. They decided not to Franchise Tag him because they wanted no part of the distraction of an extended training camp holdout and the associated media attention that it would bring. Edited May 12, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz
CountryCletus Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Wow, both descriptions of the interview were so good, I don't even feel the need to listen to it now, thanks guy!!! I really like the direction this team is going... Players and front office alike!! Here's to another playoff run!!! 🍻
26CornerBlitz Posted May 12, 2014 Author Posted May 12, 2014 Wow, both descriptions of the interview were so good, I don't even feel the need to listen to it now, thanks guy!!! I really like the direction this team is going... Players and front office alike!! Here's to another playoff run!!! It's definitely worth a listen because Whaley touched on quite a bit more than Stevie and Byrd. including the draft, EJ, Bryce Brown, the goal this season, etc.
The Wiz Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Best point he made about Byrd was about wanting all the players to be "All-in" and said they could have franchised Byrd again and wait for him to report. Obviously Whaley expected Byrd to sit out half the season again and report when he had to so he didn't want to deal with a player who wasn't "All-in" as he put it.
jimmy10 Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 That was a whale of an interview Would you say it was Whalesque? Whaley, even?
bladiebla Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Best point he made about Byrd was about wanting all the players to be "All-in" and said they could have franchised Byrd again and wait for him to report. Obviously Whaley expected Byrd to sit out half the season again and report when he had to so he didn't want to deal with a player who wasn't "All-in" as he put it. The follow up question was really good imho and revealed the real situation. Parker blackmailed/threatened them with another holdout. That considered plus the value they had him at and not seeing a solution the let him walk. I still think it send the wrong message towards future FA's. Then again it seems like it was a loss-loss situation for us. Guess Byrd really just wanted out.
Campy Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 It's definitely worth a listen because Whaley touched on quite a bit more than Stevie and Byrd. including the draft, EJ, Bryce Brown, the goal this season, etc. Yep. It's only 13.5 minutes long and well worth a listen because they covered a lot of ground. The follow up question was really good imho and revealed the real situation. Parker blackmailed/threatened them with another holdout. That considered plus the value they had him at and not seeing a solution the let him walk. I still think it send the wrong message towards future FA's. Then again it seems like it was a loss-loss situation for us. Guess Byrd really just wanted out. I'm not saying he didn't say that - it is possible I missed it - but I only recall him saying he won't discuss negotiations in the media.
bladiebla Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 I'm not saying he didn't say that - it is possible I missed it - but I only recall him saying he won't discuss negotiations in the media. That is exactly what he said, which is confirmation of the question by not denying it.
The Wiz Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) The follow up question was really good imho and revealed the real situation. Parker blackmailed/threatened them with another holdout. That considered plus the value they had him at and not seeing a solution the let him walk. I still think it send the wrong message towards future FA's. Then again it seems like it was a loss-loss situation for us. Guess Byrd really just wanted out. I'm not saying he didn't say that - it is possible I missed it - but I only recall him saying he won't discuss negotiations in the media. Whaley was pretty confident that Byrd would hold out again which seems to be what he meant by blackmail/threaten. Edited May 12, 2014 by The Wiz
bladiebla Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Whaley was pretty confident that Byrd would hold out again which seems to be what he meant by blackmail/threaten. Yes, im not wording this very well am I. Whaley was clear that he expected another situation (thus holdout) then refused to go into detail about the negotiations but never denied the threat, rather expressed he didnt want that drama detracting the group.
YoloinOhio Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Yes, im not wording this very well am I. Whaley was clear that he expected another situation (thus holdout) then refused to go into detail about the negotiations but never denied the threat, rather expressed he didnt want that drama detracting the group. That was exactly what I thought as well. By Whaley's answer he inferred that part of the negotiations with Parker was Byrd would pull the same act as year ago under the tag.
Big Turk Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Best point he made about Byrd was about wanting all the players to be "All-in" and said they could have franchised Byrd again and wait for him to report. Obviously Whaley expected Byrd to sit out half the season again and report when he had to so he didn't want to deal with a player who wasn't "All-in" as he put it. Getting the wrong people off the bus sometimes is more important than getting the right ones on the bus...
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