ASCI Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Belicheck is a great talent manager, but it's Charlie Weiss who is the real X's And O's mastermind and old chuckles is gone after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Does that really matter? The damage is already done. Also, winning a 4th Superbowl without Weis or Romeo will be the ultimate feather in Belichick's hat. Wanna bet he gets that feather next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASCI Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 Does that really matter? The damage is already done. Also, winning a 4th Superbowl without Weis or Romeo will be the ultimate feather in Belichick's hat. Wanna bet he gets that feather next year? 215993[/snapback] Yes I'll take that bet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Yes I'll take that bet! 215997[/snapback] Don't get me wrong, I'm not ROOTING for them to do it, but they are so far ahead of other teams in the NFL it's scary. Whose going to beat them in the AFC East? Not the Dolphins...too many holes to fill by next year. Not the Jets...they were an illusion all this year. They won't make the playoffs in 05 Not the Bills ...while I think the Bills will be in the playoffs next year, it won't be as the AFC East winner. Once the Pats are in the playoffs, they are money in the bank. They are a team of clutch players led by Mr.Clutch (Brady). God, I hope I'm wrong! (Edit: Of course this speculation is ridiculous since the 2004 season isn't even over. I'm just saying the Pats are going to be good for the next couple years, with or without Romeo and Weiss) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzer32 Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Does that really matter? The damage is already done. Also, winning a 4th Superbowl without Weis or Romeo will be the ultimate feather in Belichick's hat. Wanna bet he gets that feather next year? 215993[/snapback] New offensive coordinator New defensive coordinator NE will be lucky to make the plaoffs next year. BB can't do it on his own and the real Tom Brady will finally show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 New offensive coordinator New defensive coordinator NE will be lucky to make the plaoffs next year. BB can't do it on his own and the real Tom Brady will finally show up. 216012[/snapback] The real Tom Brady has two (going on three) superbowl rings. He is the best QB in the game today. Not the best passer (manning), not the best runner (vick). The best QB. Period. And he will be next year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Pats have the best coach and best QB in football. They will be back next year. I am a Brady converst over the past year and a half he has been great. He is accurate, smart, and makes quick decisions. All more important than having the strongest arm and throwing the 20yd out well. For those who doubt him just look at his record. Undefeated in te playoffs. He is the only pro bowl player on that offense. He does not have 4-5 1st round picks like Manning has on his offense. Brady deserves major kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Pats have the best coach and best QB in football. They will be back next year. I am a Brady converst over the past year and a half he has been great. He is accurate, smart, and makes quick decisions. All more important than having the strongest arm and throwing the 20yd out well. For those who doubt him just look at his record. Undefeated in te playoffs. He is the only pro bowl player on that offense. He does not have 4-5 1st round picks like Manning has on his offense. Brady deserves major kudos. 216027[/snapback] He is everything you want in a QB. In essence, he's everything Manning and Vick aren't...Clutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASCI Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 Don't get me wrong, I'm not ROOTING for them to do it, but they are so far ahead of other teams in the NFL it's scary. Whose going to beat them in the AFC East? Not the Dolphins...too many holes to fill by next year. Not the Jets...they were an illusion all this year. They won't make the playoffs in 05 Not the Bills ...while I think the Bills will be in the playoffs next year, it won't be as the AFC East winner. Once the Pats are in the playoffs, they are money in the bank. They are a team of clutch players led by Mr.Clutch (Brady). God, I hope I'm wrong! (Edit: Of course this speculation is ridiculous since the 2004 season isn't even over. I'm just saying the Pats are going to be good for the next couple years, with or without Romeo and Weiss) 216004[/snapback] I think it's Weiss who is the game plan wizard behind the Pats. As I recall Belicheck was not much of an offensive mind throughout his coaching career. I Think the Pats will still continue to get good talent cheap and retain an outstanding D next year under Belicheck, but I really do think the Offense will be rudderless next year with Wiess gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I think it's Weiss who is the game plan wizard behind the Pats. As I recall Belicheck was not much of an offensive mind throughout his coaching career. I Think the Pats will still continue to get good talent cheap and retain an outstanding D next year under Belicheck, but I really do think the Offense will be rudderless next year with Wiess gone. 216039[/snapback] True, but Belicheck is very adaptable (note that he became QB coach a few years ago out of necessity and was the one that realized Brady's talent). They will promote from within and the system will remain the same. Same for the Defesne. The schemes are Belicheck's anyway so the D will rebound. The only team that is capable of beating them in 05 is Buffalo! (How's that for optomism?!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Look at it this way--if the Bills sweep the Pats next year we will be .500 against them in a three year period. A period where they were one of the best teams to ever play the game. That's optimism!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASCI Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 True, but Belicheck is very adaptable (note that he became QB coach a few years ago out of necessity and was the one that realized Brady's talent). They will promote from within and the system will remain the same. Same for the Defesne. The schemes are Belicheck's anyway so the D will rebound. The only team that is capable of beating them in 05 is Buffalo! (How's that for optomism?!) 216052[/snapback] yes I agree, He is a good talent finder/manager, but I still think it take more to play at the level they are playing at on offense and Weiss is the difference maker. Go Bills in 05! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Look at it this way--if the Bills sweep the Pats next year we will be .500 against them in a three year period. A period where they were one of the best teams to ever play the game. That's optimism!!! 216062[/snapback] I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflo83 Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Pats have the best coach and best QB in football. They will be back next year. I am a Brady converst over the past year and a half he has been great. He is accurate, smart, and makes quick decisions. All more important than having the strongest arm and throwing the 20yd out well. For those who doubt him just look at his record. Undefeated in te playoffs. He is the only pro bowl player on that offense. He does not have 4-5 1st round picks like Manning has on his offense. Brady deserves major kudos. 216027[/snapback] Add the best kicker in the game too. Found out last week that nobody had hit a field goal longer than 46 yards in the history of Heinz Field. First drive of the game Vinateri lines up and nails a 48 yarder. The man is money in the bank. Add the best best coach, the best QB and the best kicker to a team that plays smart football and we're stuck watching a dynasty in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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