Kellyto83TD Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 Elite WR who will be the best pure talent since Andre Reed on this team and finally a TRUE, clear cut, #1 WR who teams must respect day 1. We have 3 outstanding talents working hard right behind him. This year we can field 4 WR's teams will have to account for. Suck it New England! T.C. Kouandjio Was THE RT I wanted in round 2. For those bitching you really need to do your resarch and this is coming from an OU Fan that watched Eric Striker take him to school in the Bowl game. He is a RT in the NFL and has tons of upside and just needs technique work. Holy crap... our HC is an OL coach....hummmm.... We needed a RIGHT tackle and got 1 of the two top guys in the draft for that. GREAT PICK! Preson Brown: BPA period. 'But we need a TE' do we? We have 3 on this roster and Whaley says he is happy with all 3. Maybe...just maybe he sees them all offseason, sees their progress and is possibly right? Nah fans and media know more than whaley does. That said Brown has drawn comparisons to some really outstanding LB's in the NFL. Another outstanding pure talent Whaley has added. I get fans think they know better, they whine, complain etc. But hell we have picked guys Mike Mayock are saying are great picks. Gil Brandt the Godfather of drafting had Kujo as his #2 or #3 top player going into day 2 and fans still complain. But to me I have to ignore it as I know NE, Miami, and the Jets are REALLY complaining because they know how tough it was to play us last year. They know we are going into year 2 when teams with new coaches start getting on track. They know we just added two definite Day 1 starters that are going to be bad ass and make us much better Bottom line Whaley has done a hell of a job and I am really looking forward to seeing what this Team can do this year!
Buffaloed in Pa Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 Not too excited about downtown Preston Brown.
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 Elite WR who will be the best pure talent since Andre Reed on this team and finally a TRUE, clear cut, #1 WR who teams must respect day 1. We have 3 outstanding talents working hard right behind him. This year we can field 4 WR's teams will have to account for. Suck it New England! T.C. Kouandjio Was THE RT I wanted in round 2. For those bitching you really need to do your resarch and this is coming from an OU Fan that watched Eric Striker take him to school in the Bowl game. He is a RT in the NFL and has tons of upside and just needs technique work. Holy crap... our HC is an OL coach....hummmm.... We needed a RIGHT tackle and got 1 of the two top guys in the draft for that. GREAT PICK! Preson Brown: BPA period. 'But we need a TE' do we? We have 3 on this roster and Whaley says he is happy with all 3. Maybe...just maybe he sees them all offseason, sees their progress and is possibly right? Nah fans and media know more than whaley does. That said Brown has drawn comparisons to some really outstanding LB's in the NFL. Another outstanding pure talent Whaley has added. I get fans think they know better, they whine, complain etc. But hell we have picked guys Mike Mayock are saying are great picks. Gil Brandt the Godfather of drafting had Kujo as his #2 or #3 top player going into day 2 and fans still complain. But to me I have to ignore it as I know NE, Miami, and the Jets are REALLY complaining because they know how tough it was to play us last year. They know we are going into year 2 when teams with new coaches start getting on track. They know we just added two definite Day 1 starters that are going to be bad ass and make us much better Bottom line Whaley has done a hell of a job and I am really looking forward to seeing what this Team can do this year! I can't believe I'm going to say this, but here we go, this post is actually pretty good. Much better than your usual gloom and doom. Now, every post shouldn't be bright sunshine and roses, but hopefully we can see a few more like this. Good job. Elite WR who will be the best pure talent since Andre Reed on this team and finally a TRUE, clear cut, #1 WR who teams must respect day 1. We have 3 outstanding talents working hard right behind him. This year we can field 4 WR's teams will have to account for. Suck it New England! T.C. Kouandjio Was THE RT I wanted in round 2. For those bitching you really need to do your resarch and this is coming from an OU Fan that watched Eric Striker take him to school in the Bowl game. He is a RT in the NFL and has tons of upside and just needs technique work. Holy crap... our HC is an OL coach....hummmm.... We needed a RIGHT tackle and got 1 of the two top guys in the draft for that. GREAT PICK! Preson Brown: BPA period. 'But we need a TE' do we? We have 3 on this roster and Whaley says he is happy with all 3. Maybe...just maybe he sees them all offseason, sees their progress and is possibly right? Nah fans and media know more than whaley does. That said Brown has drawn comparisons to some really outstanding LB's in the NFL. Another outstanding pure talent Whaley has added. I get fans think they know better, they whine, complain etc. But hell we have picked guys Mike Mayock are saying are great picks. Gil Brandt the Godfather of drafting had Kujo as his #2 or #3 top player going into day 2 and fans still complain. But to me I have to ignore it as I know NE, Miami, and the Jets are REALLY complaining because they know how tough it was to play us last year. They know we are going into year 2 when teams with new coaches start getting on track. They know we just added two definite Day 1 starters that are going to be bad ass and make us much better Bottom line Whaley has done a hell of a job and I am really looking forward to seeing what this Team can do this year! Over the last 15 months or so the Bills really have looked like they know what their doing. Good FA pick-ups and great drafting. Have to believe it's because of D. Whaley
Awwufelloff Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 Not too excited about downtown Preston Brown. I said the same thing about Kiko last year, boy was I ever wrong.
HeHateMe Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 I like the draft so far. Didn't mind getting rid of Stevie for the pick either. Dude was a fan favorite but was so over rated when it came to what he could do on the field.
Kellyto83TD Posted May 10, 2014 Author Posted May 10, 2014 I said the same thing about Kiko last year, boy was I ever wrong. Think on this... Back up for Spikes, Short yardage and Goal line extra backer and.... Think when we go with a 3-4 package I like the draft so far. Didn't mind getting rid of Stevie for the pick either. Dude was a fan favorite but was so over rated when it came to what he could do on the field. ^^^^ This I can't believe I'm going to say this, but here we go, this post is actually pretty good. Much better than your usual gloom and doom. Now, every post shouldn't be bright sunshine and roses, but hopefully we can see a few more like this. Good job. Over the last 15 months or so the Bills really have looked like they know what their doing. Good FA pick-ups and great drafting. Have to believe it's because of D. Whaley Thank you good sir. and Yeah I think we are now finally seeing Whaley in charge with Nix out of the way. It is going to pay off.
GunnerBill Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 I don't know enough about Preston Brown really to comment and I'm not going to pretend I do for the sake of having something to say, but if he can play the run well in there as Mayock suggest then that will do for me. Spikes is going to want a big deal next year I suspect so drafting a potential replacement now makes some sense to me, although I won't lie I was gutted Crichton went the pick before us (whether the FO ever liked him is another matter). I think they will go RB next, but I'd still like a DE somewhere at least for depth and I missed the last 10 picks last night (it was quarter to 4 in the morning UK time when I went to bed) I presume Walt Aikens is still there? I think they really like him either in the 4th or the 5th.
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 I like the draft so far. Didn't mind getting rid of Stevie for the pick either. Dude was a fan favorite but was so over rated when it came to what he could do on the field. I'm a big Stevie fan, and thought he was very good except at the end of games when we needed it most. For awhile he was easily our best WR, but based on the moves this offseason (trading for M. Williams and drafting Sammy Watkins) even I think trading Stevie was the right move.
Max997 Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) Think on this... Back up for Spikes, Short yardage and Goal line extra backer and.... Think when we go with a 3-4 package What 3-4 package? Schwartz doesn't run a hybrid defense The difference with Kiko was he was drafted to be an immediate starter but Brown at best will be a backup which they needed but not in third round when there were other players available that would provide more of an impact. And what happens if Spikes plays well and is given an extension? They would hv used a high third round pick on a guy that would never be more then a backup for them Edited May 10, 2014 by Max997
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) I don't know enough about Preston Brown really to comment and I'm not going to pretend I do for the sake of having something to say, but if he can play the run well in there as Mayock suggest then that will do for me. Spikes is going to want a big deal next year I suspect so drafting a potential replacement now makes some sense to me, although I won't lie I was gutted Crichton went the pick before us (whether the FO ever liked him is another matter). I think they will go RB next, but I'd still like a DE somewhere at least for depth and I missed the last 10 picks last night (it was quarter to 4 in the morning UK time when I went to bed) I presume Walt Aikens is still there? I think they really like him either in the 4th or the 5th. For your viewing pleasure. He's #2, weird # for a LBer. For some reason the vid skips to 6:24 after about 5 seconds, you'll just have to click back to the beginning. Edited May 10, 2014 by LOVEMESOMEBILLS
Green Lightning Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 What 3-4 package? Schwartz doesn't run a hybrid defense The difference with Kiko was he was drafted to be an immediate starter but Brown at best will be a backup which they needed but not in third round when there were other players available that would provide more of an impact. And what happens if Spikes plays well and is given an extension? They would hv used a high third round pick on a guy that would never be more then a backup for them You will see plenty of 3-4 alignments this year. So Preston will be helpful. But I have to agree with you on your point about other talent on the board that could have started or made a bigger impact this year that Preston will have. I still don't see that we have a red zone threat and some were on the board.
purple haze Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 What 3-4 package? Schwartz doesn't run a hybrid defense The difference with Kiko was he was drafted to be an immediate starter but Brown at best will be a backup which they needed but not in third round when there were other players available that would provide more of an impact. And what happens if Spikes plays well and is given an extension? They would hv used a high third round pick on a guy that would never be more then a backup for them What 3-4 package? Schwartz doesn't run a hybrid defense The difference with Kiko was he was drafted to be an immediate starter but Brown at best will be a backup which they needed but not in third round when there were other players available that would provide more of an impact. And what happens if Spikes plays well and is given an extension? They would hv used a high third round pick on a guy that would never be more then a backup for them Every team needs back ups. And what if Spikes bounces? Brown could also possibly plays SAM. He was a good pick. Who would you rather have been drafted that would have had more of an impact? I don’t think there is anyone in the 3rd round who is going to come in and start. The Bills have good starters at just about every position. They got a starting WR and RT in the first two rounds. 3rd rounder are often down the line starters.
Big Turk Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 You will see plenty of 3-4 alignments this year. So Preston will be helpful. But I have to agree with you on your point about other talent on the board that could have started or made a bigger impact this year that Preston will have. I still don't see that we have a red zone threat and some were on the board. 6'7" TE's aren't red zone threats? Hasn't Chandler tied the franchise TD mark for TE's twice since he's been here?
Kellyto83TD Posted May 10, 2014 Author Posted May 10, 2014 6'7" TE's aren't red zone threats? Hasn't Chandler tied the franchise TD mark for TE's twice since he's been here? Shhh don't confuse them with facts. They wanted what the MEDIA said we needed and that was a shiny new toy at TE.
Hplarrm Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 I think trading SJ was the right move IF the coaches correctly interpret him as being a cancerous element for the team. I do not think he is but easily can be wrong on this as I am not in the lockerroom. Trading him makes little football sense to me because though I agree he has not proven to be the definite go-guy you want for a #1WR (His overall #s as our statistically leading WR for several seasons consistently at the 1000 yard mark and in particular his impressive work against Darelle REvis are real and very good to me) show he must be accounted for by opponents. I think folks who for some reason feel he is redundant due to Watkins make the mistake that why yes you can only have 1 QB, you can have two productive WRs on the field at the same time. I feel like we will miss an opportunity as both Watkins and SJ demanded a double team (he has demonstrated that even a great CB like a Revis needed help. Williams/Woods need to prove they are that good.
GunnerBill Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 For your viewing pleasure. He's #2, weird # for a LBer. For some reason the vid skips to 6:24 after about 5 seconds, you'll just have to click back to the beginning. Thanks! He looks stout against the run, good anticipation, gets downhill pretty fast. I love the special teams play half way through that video and I'm sure they will look to have him involved on special teams this year. A bit raw in coverage skills I think it's fair to say, but he doesn't give up on plays even when he looks beat and he chases backs down a couple of times in that video when he has maybe been a little out of position to start with.
Big Turk Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 I think trading SJ was the right move IF the coaches correctly interpret him as being a cancerous element for the team. I do not think he is but easily can be wrong on this as I am not in the lockerroom. Trading him makes little football sense to me because though I agree he has not proven to be the definite go-guy you want for a #1WR (His overall #s as our statistically leading WR for several seasons consistently at the 1000 yard mark and in particular his impressive work against Darelle REvis are real and very good to me) show he must be accounted for by opponents. I think folks who for some reason feel he is redundant due to Watkins make the mistake that why yes you can only have 1 QB, you can have two productive WRs on the field at the same time. I feel like we will miss an opportunity as both Watkins and SJ demanded a double team (he has demonstrated that even a great CB like a Revis needed help. Williams/Woods need to prove they are that good. Williams is at least at talented as Johnson, likely more so and brings a much needed size element downfield Johnson didn't... Our WRs are fine, Johnson was likely going to be in a dogfight with Woods for playing time as the 3rd receiver, and if you know what you have in Johnson but think that Woods and/or Williams gives you more than he does taking into account his seemingly unhealable groin injury he has dealt with for 2-3 years now, then you don't want to take reps away from them and hinder their development. I think it says as much about their belief in Williams, Watkins, Woods and Goodwin as it does in Johnson. Too many people are scared to let good get in the way of great
TC in St. Louis Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand I trust the guys who drafted Kiko, but on the other hand, they drafted the two safeties last year who didn't amount to much. And they kept the special teams coach who sucked.
Rockinon Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) What 3-4 package? Schwartz doesn't run a hybrid defense The difference with Kiko was he was drafted to be an immediate starter but Brown at best will be a backup which they needed but not in third round when there were other players available that would provide more of an impact. And what happens if Spikes plays well and is given an extension? They would hv used a high third round pick on a guy that would never be more then a backup for them And if Spikes ends up being a locker room cancer? I'm not sold on Spikes. He seems to be a me first kind of guy until he proves otherwise. And who says, Schwartz doesn't run a hybrid? We haven't even seen what he will run on this team. Edited May 10, 2014 by Rockinon
Hplarrm Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 Williams is at least at talented as Johnson, likely more so and brings a much needed size element downfield Johnson didn't... Our WRs are fine, Johnson was likely going to be in a dogfight with Woods for playing time as the 3rd receiver, and if you know what you have in Johnson but think that Woods and/or Williams gives you more than he does taking into account his seemingly unhealable groin injury he has dealt with for 2-3 years now, then you don't want to take reps away from them and hinder their development. I think it says as much about their belief in Williams, Watkins, Woods and Goodwin as it does in Johnson. Too many people are scared to let good get in the way of great This one will be easy to see as the proof will be in the pudding. If Williams demands a dt from opponents then Watkins will likely be a terror. The real fun will be when the Bills O sees opponents are forced to put 8 guys in the box to stop handoffs to Spiller in a 3WR set and then the Bills shift into an empty backfield with Spiller moving out as a WR opponents would then be forced to shift up and have LBs cover Spiller and one of the WRs one on one with an LB.
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