billsfanmiami(oh) Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 I'm fine with the trade and I'm excited about Watkins. He was the only player I really felt was worth trading up for. It was a bold move but I like the attitude and message it sends to the team. Obviously we won't know if it was "worth it" for years and hindsight is always 20/20, but I think Watkins has potential to be a superstar. If we can add a tackle, and EJ progresses and stays healthy I think that for the first time in 15 years we're going to be relavent again.
ALF Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 I would have taken Lewan Taylor at 9 , we have too many WR's without Watkins.
PromoTheRobot Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) To do what they did they paid about what you'd expect. The question is "is he worth it?" I will say at least the opinion on Watkins was unanimous, that he is considered elite by most everyone, unlike a Johnny Manziel with opinions varying wildly. Edited May 9, 2014 by PromoTheRobot
maryland-bills-fan Posted May 9, 2014 Author Posted May 9, 2014 I would have traded down and picked up another 2nd or 3rd round pick. We were well stocked with young wide receivers, who will improve. We still need ROT, LB, safety and TE. We are not going to fill all those positions with quality players with one pick in each of the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th round.
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 I wasn't a fan of trading up and wanted a Mike Evans type receiver. I'm conflicted on this. But if he lives up to what people say and becomes a top 5 type wr in passing league, that's probably worth it. I'm just glad it wasn't a OT. It's a lot harder to find elite playmakers than Ts.
CodeMonkey Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 Yes, a little. The way things were going Evans could well have have been there at 9. But Watkins is a solid player in a position they needed badly. Plus hindsight is always 20/20.
tennesseeboy Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 How good is Watkins? If he is a pro-bowler or hall of famer this is a fine pick. If we draft some o-line help this makes sense. In the final analysis if Beckham or Ebron turn out to be outstanding we will have egg on our face. If Manuel gets sacked and hurt and Lewan plays lights out in Tennessee we will look stupid. Marrone and the front office are putting their jobs on the line for the new ownership with this selection, so Watkins had best be lights out good.
Kemp Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 A great move with no real downside. He is the real deal. If it doesn't work out it will mean EJ failed, in which case it would unravel anyway.
peterpan Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 I think walter football said it best. Absolutely spot on in my opinion. "The Bills get an A for Sammy Watkins. He's a stud, and he's going to be a great receiver in the NFL. Having said that, they get a D for moving up. They surrendered a first-round pick in 2015, and given that the quarterback is still E.J. Manuel, it's likely that Cleveland will have an additional top-12 selection in 2015 NFL Draft. "
bigK14094 Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 Yes, they paid to much.....but why. My view....Marrone and Whaley are in a "one and done" situation with respect to a new owner. If they aren't in the playoffs, they will be gone...the new guy will put his stamp on the team right away. (might even if they make the playoffs) So, ";burning the furniture" for the 2015 draft might not make any difference to the current leadership at OBD, as they won't be there anyhow if they don't make the playoffs. So, for them, this was a" why not?" situation. I would have been happy with the guy from LSU at #9, but I am not running the show. Go Bills! I wish them good fortune with this pick!
i miss marv Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 Although they gave up a lot more to get him I think the move was smart by the GM and Coach. They gave up nothing in this years draft because they know that with a new owner coming in they may not be able to slowly build this team. Heck they may clean house if they don't win. I think this was a move where they had to give up more to not include picks in this years draft because everyone claims its so deep and the GM and coach did not believe they could wait till next year to get the other pieces they need to make it a contending team.
HeHateMe Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 Everyone was clamoring for Watkins before the draft and now that they moved up to get him it's a bad move. What did you think the price was going to be? A couple 2nd and 3rd round picks? Any team would have traded that to get him or Cleveland would have just drafted him to pair with Gordon. Look no one likes giving away the 2015 first but if they Bills are actually decent next year it's a good trade. If they are bad then the trade is bad. Pretty much that simple.
Cleveland Rocks? Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 Everyone was clamoring for Watkins before the draft and now that they moved up to get him it's a bad move. What did you think the price was going to be? A couple 2nd and 3rd round picks? Any team would have traded that to get him or Cleveland would have just drafted him to pair with Gordon. Look no one likes giving away the 2015 first but if they Bills are actually decent next year it's a good trade. If they are bad then the trade is bad. Pretty much that simple. Good for the Bills. Bad for the Browns, unless Sammy Watkins is available next year in the 1st round. Yep, there is your answer.
The Wiz Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 I would have taken Lewan Taylor at 9 , we have too many WR's without Watkins. But how many great ones do we have?
hondo in seattle Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 A few thoughts: -Watkins is going to be a star. -If they get to the playoffs it isn't too much because the pick will be in the low 20's in all likelihood. -If EJ develops it won't matter because this team will have lots of talent. They can address needs in FA next year if necessary plus have a 2nd & 3rd where they can find 2 starters. I do not expect this team to need more than 2 starters next year. If 1 of those is a RB they can get one of the best in the draft in the 2nd (probably not Gurley but lots of value for RB in the 2nd). -As of right now I think that they could use 2 OL (1 in, 1 out), a DE, a LB, a TE and a punter). They still have 5 more picks in this draft plus a trade chip in Stevie. While the price was high IF EJ develops than they will be fine. If they are without a QB and without a 1st they are going to need to explore veteran options (Cutler, Romo, Alex Smith, Cousins, and even Matt Ryan) are guys that I could see potentially becoming available. Their other option is to add another QB at some point in this draft and who knows that guy may develop. I would love Aaron Murray but I don't think that they should take a QB before the 4th. You may be right that Sammy will be a star. But you don't think there were any future Pro Bowlers - or maybe future Hall of Famers - still left at #9? We could have potentially had two Pro Bowlers with those two first round picks. Instead we have one. Watkins needs to become very special for this trade to make sense.
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 You may be right that Sammy will be a star. But you don't think there were any future Pro Bowlers - or maybe future Hall of Famers - still left at #9? We could have potentially had two Pro Bowlers with those two first round picks. Instead we have one. Watkins needs to become very special for this trade to make sense. And we could have none or drafted Aaron Maybin. It's the draft. Who the hell knows?
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 Rodak thinks the Bills are crazy!http://espn.go.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/9401/bills-going-for-broke-with-bold-trade All you need to know. Therefore, the Bills did not overpay, and made a great pick!
hondo in seattle Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 And we could have none or drafted Aaron Maybin. It's the draft. Who the hell knows? Fair enough. But that's why I prefer more picks. Every pick is a throw of the dice. The odds of getting a winning roll are better when we have more chances to roll 'em. And yet... I find Whaley's enthusiasm infectious.
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