Rob's House Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Black people being half a person is "a reasoned position based on logical deductions you've made?" My sarcasm detection is a little off, but I'm pretty sure you're just messing with me here. If anyones claiming to be confident on the contents of the nba by laws and constitution they are perhaps overreaching a little. Until yesterday afternoon they had never been available to the public. I imagine the nba had a full legal team work on this, but last night I heard Lester Munson the espn legal talking head discussing that this would be taking a very aggressive reading of a few of the clauses and then pushing the bounds of how you could act on it and that he expected this to potentially be in court a long time because it's not totally clear (as I said though, he's only had access to them for a few hours when he made the comments). Yeah, it should be interesting to see how this unfolds. I read the bylaws last night and there are two clauses that will be heavily scrutinized. The conduct clause, which I assume will focus on whether his private conversation is "conduct" for the purposes of the contract, will be key. If that's not found to be a violation they can't force a sale of the team. Also, the commissioner can't force a sale regardless, that has to be done by a 3/4 vote of the owners. The other part is a catch-all clause that is very broadly written and will be subject to interpretation. The league will say that it gives the commissioner permission to determine what is and isn't a punishable offense, Sterling will argue it only gives him the ability to determine penalties for violations of existing rules that don't have proscribed penalties. It's an ambiguous clause, the interpretation of which will likely determine the outcome.
papazoid Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 I think the wife released the tapes (not the girlfriend).
NoSaint Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 I think the wife released the tapes (not the girlfriend). legally speaking, another layer of the forced sale is the wife is still an owner of the team under california joint property laws, and has not been punished. plus, of course, whatever drama/ramifications all this creates within their marriage.
Maury Ballstein Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Was listening to lebatard on espn radio just now. Seems to think if sterling said something "anti gay or gay bashing" he would take half the flack and definetly wouldn't lose his team. The majority of African Americans seem to disapprove of the gay lifestyle fwiw.
NoSaint Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Was listening to lebatard on espn radio just now. Seems to think if sterling said something "anti gay or gay bashing" he would take half the flack and definetly wouldn't lose his team. The majority of African Americans seem to disapprove of the gay lifestyle fwiw. michael smith with numbers never lie on ESPN said the same yesterday afternoon, i hear - that players would never think of boycotting because of it. that there would be some angry folks, a fine, and everyone would move on. Mike and Mike were discussing some of that content this morning.
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Well, duh... It's 100x the issue because he said it about attending NBA games in a 75% black league. It's not about being prejudice, it's about three specifics.
NoSaint Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/news/20140429/donald-sterling-nba-adam-silver-clippers-lawsuit-lifetime-ban/ extensive article on the legalities
inkman Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 I know he's 80 but isn't she a little too ugly for a this trouble? If I'm going down she better be worth the damn trouble.
NoSaint Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 the floodgates of weird stories are going to really start opening: http://deadspin.com/si-publishes-disturbing-donald-sterling-anecdote-it-spi-1570050416
Rob's House Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 I know he's 80 but isn't she a little too ugly for a this trouble? If I'm going down she better be worth the damn trouble. I'd still hit it.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Well last nights interview with Anderson Cooper didnt make things better for him at all..... http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/may/13/donald-sterling-in-new-tirade-against-magic-johnson-and-african-americans CBF
DC Tom Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Well last nights interview with Anderson Cooper didnt make things better for him at all..... http://www.theguardi...rican-americans CBF I heard parts of it. Sterling sounded less "racist old coot" and more of a "Grandpa's on the roof and won't come down" dementia patient.
The Poojer Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 a little too much like that...and all of a sudden... I heard parts of it. Sterling sounded less "racist old coot" and more of a "Grandpa's on the roof and won't come down" dementia patient.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 a little too much like that...and all of a sudden... If you ever worked for the Clippers, or knew anyone who did, they would say that's exactly how Donald has sounded for decades now...
Buftex Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Yeah, Sterling didn't do himself any favors. For some reason he is taking all of his **** out on Magic Johnson.... who was really, honestly, just an innocent bystander in this whole thing...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 Love that Donald went into that interview alone while his wife had her lawyer sitting right next to her in her interview. Talk about setting a guy up to fail...
The Poojer Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Lebron is saying he'll boycott next season if sterling isn't removed as owner and I can't say as I blame him. If an owner of my company acted the way he is I wouldn't want to subject myself to it.
Buftex Posted May 14, 2014 Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) Lebron is saying he'll boycott next season if sterling isn't removed as owner and I can't say as I blame him. If an owner of my company acted the way he is I wouldn't want to subject myself to it. Well...no offense to LeBron, and I understand and sympathize with his sentiment, but I think he is kind of over-stepping here. He isn't playing for Sterling, and will have the power he needs to make sure that doesn't happen, ever. Now, if Chris Paul, or Blake Griffin said the same thing, it might seem more appropriate. If LeBron did sit out next season, in protest, that would give another team a chance to win a ring! Should I be rooting for Sterling now? Love that Donald went into that interview alone while his wife had her lawyer sitting right next to her in her interview. Talk about setting a guy up to fail... Yeah, that was kind of disaster.... "What did Magic Johnson ever do? All he did was go around and sleep with every woman in America, and get AIDS. He isn't a role model, he should be hiding in shame... (in the same breath) I respect everything Magic has done... I love to give money to minorities....if Magic would tell me where to donate money, I would be happy to." Apparently, he felt the need to attack Johnson, because Magic declined to do an interview with Barbara Walters, with the two of them, in an attempt to rehabilitate Sterlings' image. Edited May 14, 2014 by Buftex
The Poojer Posted May 14, 2014 Posted May 14, 2014 i hate to be so crass, but i think the 'demetia' angle is completely contrived to try and relieve him of any knowing/willing wrong doing....the wife claimed he had symptoms of it last week then this rambling train wreck....something smells very fishy about this
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