Buftex Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 I don't think anybody, even the people who are hyping Vick up, believer he is a great QBm in the traditional sense. It is just that he is such a fantastic athlete, his possibilities are pretty limitless. He definitely has a ways to go though, as a passer. Not too bad though, going 13-3 (or whatever their record was) taking your team to the conference championship, with a chance to win, late in the third quarter, having zero talent, and being the worst QB in the leauge next to Bledsoe, according to all of you. Jeezus, you guys better hope that the Bills never lose a game with Losman, and that he ends up with a 158.1 QB rating. You'll all be pretty crushed...tough crowd!
ajzepp Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 I don't think anybody, even the people who are hyping Vick up, believer he is a great QBm in the traditional sense. It is just that he is such a fantastic athlete, his possibilities are pretty limitless. He definitely has a ways to go though, as a passer. Not too bad though, going 13-3 (or whatever their record was) taking your team to the conference championship, with a chance to win, late in the third quarter, having zero talent, and being the worst QB in the leauge next to Bledsoe, according to all of you. Jeezus, you guys better hope that the Bills never lose a game with Losman, and that he ends up with a 158.1 QB rating. You'll all be pretty crushed...tough crowd! 215415[/snapback] It's also his first year in the West Coast offense (though it's not REALLY the West Coast offense), and they have a rookie head coach. Atlanta is a good, up-and-coming team. They just are not a Super Bowl caliber team yet. On the other hand, Philly is.
rockpile Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Maybe if some of you would take your Midol and quit being so sensitive to what you perceive to be the slightest criticism of Bledsoe, you could actually understand what I was saying. The point is that when a QB becomes one dimensional (with Bledsoe it's locking onto Moulds.......with Vick, it's focusing on running) they typically are ineffective. That's it........ 215410[/snapback] I was done with Bledsoe after the NE game (1st one). I am not sensitive to criticism of DB. You just do not seem to get my point. When every topic on this forum turns into roasting or defending Bledsoe the FORUM becomes one dimensional. Pretty lame when you have to defend your posts with Midol shots. Yup! I am 51 and therefore I am stoopid!
ajzepp Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 I was done with Bledsoe after the NE game (1st one). I am not sensitive to criticism of DB. You just do not seem to get my point. When every topic on this forum turns into roasting or defending Bledsoe the FORUM becomes one dimensional. Pretty lame when you have to defend your posts with Midol shots. Yup! I am 51 and therefore I am stoopid! 215423[/snapback] It had NOTHING TO DO WITH ROASTING BLEDSOE!!! You are making it INTO that with a whiney post to begin with! Again, the point I was making is this: A QB becomes ineffective when he allows himself to become one dimensional. Bledsoe and Vick are the examples I used because they are the two QBs I am most familiar with. If I had a better idea of what Peyton Manning's, or Steve McNair's, or whoever elses weaknesses were I'd use them as an example instead. But Drew is the guy I know......and I see Vick every week. Ya got it??
Ralonzo Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Atlanta is a good, up-and-coming team. They just are not a Super Bowl caliber team yet. On the other hand, Philly is. 215418[/snapback] Not if they were in the AFC...
ajzepp Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Not if they were in the AFC... 215432[/snapback] Guess we'll find out in two weeks.......Atlanta is cooked.
rockpile Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 It had NOTHING TO DO WITH ROASTING BLEDSOE!!! You are making it INTO that with a whiney post to begin with! Again, the point I was making is this: A QB becomes ineffective when he allows himself to become one dimensional. Bledsoe and Vick are the examples I used because they are the two QBs I am most familiar with. If I had a better idea of what Peyton Manning's, or Steve McNair's, or whoever elses weaknesses were I'd use them as an example instead. But Drew is the guy I know......and I see Vick every week. Ya got it?? 215427[/snapback] OK I got it. My only point is that I am sick of every thread turning into a Bledsoe forum. All I said, in apparently a whiney little voice: why, why, why....Does almost every "conversation" have to mention Bledsoe? I am kind of like !@#$ing baffled. You got that? I am done now. OK? I am just sick of Bledose
ajzepp Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 OK I got it. My only point is that I am sick of every thread turning into a Bledsoe forum. All I said, in apparently a whiney little voice: You got that? I am done now. OK? I am just sick of Bledose 215441[/snapback] I'm sick of Bledsoe, too.......believe me.
Bear Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 The guy may sell sneakers, but he lacks the skills great QB's possess: leadership, pocket presence, and awareness of his receivers.PTR 215355[/snapback] You mean like Manning? Where's he at by the way?
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2005 Author Posted January 23, 2005 You mean like Manning? Where's he at by the way? 215461[/snapback] Do you hear me touting Manning as god's gift to football? read on: http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...l=PromotheRobot PTR
Bear Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Do you hear me touting Manning as god's gift to football? read on: http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...l=PromotheRobot PTR 215474[/snapback] So Vick sucks because he doesn't have pocket presence, and Manning sucks because he didn't win the playoff game last week. So...everyone sucks. I'll try to follow along better next time.
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2005 Author Posted January 23, 2005 So Vick sucks because he doesn't have pocket presence, and Manning sucks because he didn't win the playoff game last week. So...everyone sucks. I'll try to follow along better next time. 215522[/snapback] Tom Brady does not suck, unfortunately. PTR
bobblehead Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 Maybe if some of you would take your Midol and quit being so sensitive to what you perceive to be the slightest criticism of Bledsoe, you could actually understand what I was saying. 215410[/snapback] Well, I took your advice. I took Midol (that was hard), and I quit being so sensitive to the slightest criticism of Bledsoe(that was easier than easy). But I still don't get how the obsession has festered into every thread, sorry. Must be viral. I hope it's not air-borne.
gantrules Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 So Vick sucks because he doesn't have pocket presence, and Manning sucks because he didn't win the playoff game last week. So...everyone sucks. I'll try to follow along better next time. 215522[/snapback] Seems like this must be the truth. I don't understand how a QB like Vick can take so much heat. The guy has advanced his team one round further in both of his two years in the playoffs. The guy has led his team to a 25-12-1 record as a starter in the regular season and playoffs. The guy is an excellent YOUNG QB. They are one player away, a clutch WR. Look for Burress to be going to the ATL in the offseason.
ajzepp Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 Well, I took your advice. I took Midol (that was hard), and I quit being so sensitive to the slightest criticism of Bledsoe(that was easier than easy). But I still don't get how the obsession has festered into every thread, sorry. Must be viral. I hope it's not air-borne. 216448[/snapback] Wow, really? What's in that stuff, anyway? A little acetaminophen?
bobblehead Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 They are one player away, a clutch WR. 216456[/snapback] This never gets un-funny! *cough cough-Peerless-cough cough* Hahahahhaha, love it!
Bill from NYC Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 Uh oh.......here comes DC Tom, LA Billz, and the rest of the anti-Bledsoe police 215411[/snapback] Although I dont agree with it, that was a GREAT one liner!!!!!! I am picturing them suiting up with their uniforms and badges. Does DC Tom know yet that he has been "deputized?" It wont bother him. Like myself, he has been called worse on tsw.
ajzepp Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 Although I dont agree with it, that was a GREAT one liner!!!!!! I am picturing them suiting up with their uniforms and badges. Does DC Tom know yet that he has been "deputized?" It wont bother him. Like myself, he has been called worse on tsw. 216697[/snapback] Thanks And don't worry, we've already established that we typically disagree with each others opinions lol.......makes the world go 'round, bro
Bill from NYC Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 Thanks And don't worry, we've already established that we typically disagree with each others opinions lol.......makes the world go 'round, bro 216708[/snapback] My pleasure, and I agree. Hey, there are people who wish I would drive into a tree because I dont think that the raiders would give up Gallery for Travis Henry! (and yes, that trade was proposed on this board)
Adam Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 I couldnt disagree more. The Atlanta Falcons had their offensive strength negated yesterday- they could not effectively run the ball. Michael Vick is a different type of QB, much the way Steve Young was- and people resisted that change too. Vick is going to be the type of QB who will eventually fake to a couple running backs, then take off, opening lanes for himself. Then when a DB comes up, he can unload the ball. Vick only had 2 years of college ball, and a couple years in the pro's, minus last year's injury. It takes time to develop- even if people are way too impatient. The game is changing, and nobody is going to stop it.
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