/dev/null Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 While not his first words, I expect us to hear about, if not see, the meeting he had on the other side with Ned. Ned's last words to Snow were about how he promised to tell Snow about his mother when they next met. Of course, Ned died before they could meet again but I'm guessing (along with a lot of other people I'm sure) that meeting happened while Snow was on the other side and he'll return with an understanding that he's not a Stark at all. You really aren't very good at that whole story telling thing are you? Or that he is a Stark and a Targaryen! Yeah, that What do you think John's first words will be? "I have the worst headache!" or "I had the weirdest dream," or "Olly, I need a word with you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) Edited May 3, 2016 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Classic! I wonder what John will feel like doing now that he has fulfilled his vow to the Night's Watch. My guess would be to head to Winterfell and kick some ass! Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Night's_Watch#Vows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Or that he is a Stark and a Targaryen! Yes, that's what I meant. Good catch. You really aren't very good at that whole story telling thing are you? No, but this has been clear for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 You really aren't very good at that whole story telling thing are you? Yeah, that Keeping in mind that they already bashed a hole in the door...I really hope I see this as an outtake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Or, if she sees it worked, she might think she can finally rest after finding the light's champion. Solid. Soon as he opened his eyes it occurred to me the show would take a hit if she lingers around and puts doubts in the viewers minds on who is dead or just dead for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Happy Name-day! Or that he is a Stark and a Targaryen! I am among those that think John's spirit was in Ghost while his body was unavailable. The books really point this way pretty strongly with other earlier references. I think Bran will at least visit his siblings or their wolves soon. Bran, Arya, and John all have strong warg/skinchanger indications in the books. I want both the books and TV to come back to Arya's estranged wolf, Nymeria, who I think is now queen of the wolves south of the wall, and leader of a formidable pack by now. I think he's the product of Rhaeger's rape of Lyanna Stark and Ned's honor and love for his sister made him raise him as his own bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I think he's the product of Rhaeger's rape of Lyanna Stark and Ned's honor and love for his sister made him raise him as his own bastard. Yeah so I kind of agree. Except that it wasn't rape. I think they ran off together. And we know what Robert and the Lannisters did to all the Targarian children. Ned's honor and love for his sister is one thing. But he was saving his nephew from a merciless death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Yeah so I kind of agree. Except that it wasn't rape. I think they ran off together. And we know what Robert and the Lannisters did to all the Targarian children. Ned's honor and love for his sister is one thing. But he was saving his nephew from a merciless death. Good point about what happens to dragon born kids at the hands of Robert and the Lannisters. I assumed it was a rape because I thought Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna and hid her in Dorne. No matter. John Snow definitely has dragon blood in him. Of that I'm convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Good point about what happens to dragon born kids at the hands of Robert and the Lannisters. I assumed it was a rape because I thought Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna and hid her in Dorne. No matter. John Snow definitely has dragon blood in him. Of that I'm convinced. GRRM has already shot that theory down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 GRRM has already shot that theory down. What does he know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Yeah so I kind of agree. Except that it wasn't rape. I think they ran off together. And we know what Robert and the Lannisters did to all the Targarian children. Ned's honor and love for his sister is one thing. But he was saving his nephew from a merciless death. Yes, they were clearly in love from all that we've heard in the books. GRRM has already shot that theory down. That Snow is a Targarian? I missed that, can you point me to an interview or link? I thought the only one he shot down was about cold hands being Benjin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Happy Name-day! Or that he is a Stark and a Targaryen! I am among those that think John's spirit was in Ghost while his body was unavailable. The books really point this way pretty strongly with other earlier references. I think Bran will at least visit his siblings or their wolves soon. Bran, Arya, and John all have strong warg/skinchanger indications in the books. I want both the books and TV to come back to Arya's estranged wolf, Nymeria, who I think is now queen of the wolves south of the wall, and leader of a formidable pack by now. i always hoped that arya's wolf would come back to the story somehow.From the preview, it looks like bran will see the fight at the tower of joy and I assume find out Jon's lineage. How he then informs, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 i always hoped that arya's wolf would come back to the story somehow. From the preview, it looks like bran will see the fight at the tower of joy and I assume find out Jon's lineage. How he then informs, who knows? What else could Lyanna have meant by, "Promise me, Ned", as she lay dying in the Tower of Joy, if it wasn't for Ned to protect Jon from Robert's wrath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 What else could Lyanna have meant by, "Promise me, Ned", as she lay dying in the Tower of Joy, if it wasn't for Ned to protect Jon from Robert's wrath? I agree. Just saying I think they finally acknowledge it in this week's episode. After resurrecting Jon, it's time to make it official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 What else could Lyanna have meant by, "Promise me, Ned", as she lay dying in the Tower of Joy, if it wasn't for Ned to protect Jon from Robert's wrath? That and it was so out of character for Ned to ever have his own bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 What else could Lyanna have meant by, "Promise me, Ned", as she lay dying in the Tower of Joy, if it wasn't for Ned to protect Jon from Robert's wrath? One idea that's out there is that Lyanna not only wanted Ned to protect Jon, but also to press Jon's claim to the Iron Throne as Rhaegar's heir. As such, Ned actually broke part of his promise to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 One idea that's out there is that Lyanna not only wanted Ned to protect Jon, but also to press Jon's claim to the Iron Throne as Rhaegar's heir. As such, Ned actually broke part of his promise to her. With Myrcella out of the picture, there is no Baratheon heir to the iron throne...so, game on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Is somebody going to kill that guy who does the Infiniti commercials or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Lesson 101 : don't shank the lord commander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts