Kevin Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) If you didn't read the books then you may not want to look here. Spoilers will be most likely shared... Mods, will this be allowed? Edited April 14, 2014 by Kevin
The Big Cat Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 This is much appreciated. Mods, please understand. Now, readers, do what thou wilt.
Kevin Posted April 14, 2014 Author Posted April 14, 2014 I wonder how much the storyline is going to change now? Will they introduce the pig, dog, and the girl "imp" later?
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) I wonder how much the storyline is going to change now? Will they introduce the pig, dog, and the girl "imp" later? I hinted at that myself in the other thread trying not to give anything away. correct me if I'm wrong, The Red Wedding.. Rob's wife was in Riverrun because she was pregnant Shae... was not sent off as she was with Tywin after the prison break. - In the books Tyrion tried to marry her off to keep her in Kings Landing the pigs in question The dwarf wedding performance in the show consisted of a reenactment of the War of Five Kings In the books two dwarfs riding a pig and dog joust to the hilarity of almost all the wedding guests. Edited April 15, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever
Kevin Posted April 15, 2014 Author Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) @ BillsFan you are correct. But Joffrey made Tyrion ride the pig. I was thinking about it last night and it sounds like Tyrion might flee to Pentos with Shae now instead if the dwarf girl. That should be an interesting shift in the storyline now because of what happens with Tywin and Shae in the books. That whole scenario should happen within the next two episodes too... Edited April 15, 2014 by Kevin
Acantha Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 @ BillsFan you are correct. But Joffrey made Tyrion ride the pig. I was thinking about it last night and it sounds like Tyrion might flee to Pentos with Shae now instead if the dwarf girl. That should be an interesting shift in the storyline now because of what happens with Tywin and Shae in the books. That whole scenario should happen within the next two episodes too... I don't generally watch the show until the seasons come out, so I'm not entirely sure what the differences are yet, but I hope that doesn't happen. I think Tyrion's reaction to Shae was an important part of his psyche during his escape and trip. With Shae there, it just doesn't really make sense.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) honestly I'd prefer the dwarf girl scenario than that of a Shae - Tyrion twist. another twist to happen. what of little finger and Sansa? Maybe Shae ends up with Sansa? Edited April 15, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever
DC Tom Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 honestly I'd prefer the dwarf girl scenario than that of a Shae - Tyrion twist. another twist to happen. what of little finger and Sansa? Maybe Shae ends up with Sansa? What of Littlefinger and Sansa? In the books, Sansa ultimately meets up with Littlefinger after the fool takes her from the wedding celebration (on the ship, as I recall). So far, there's no inconsistency there - the plot point simply hasn't been reached yet, whether they go that direction or not.
Kevin Posted April 16, 2014 Author Posted April 16, 2014 What of Littlefinger and Sansa? In the books, Sansa ultimately meets up with Littlefinger after the fool takes her from the wedding celebration (on the ship, as I recall). So far, there's no inconsistency there - the plot point simply hasn't been reached yet, whether they go that direction or not. Yeah, Littlefinger went off to marry Sansa's aunt in the Vale right? I don't recall them mentioning that in the show. Also, back to BillsFan-4-ever's post about Robs wife. IIRC, she, and the Uncle and his Frey wife were being escorted back to Casterly Rock as prisoners, right?
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Yeah, Littlefinger went off to marry Sansa's aunt in the Vale right? I don't recall them mentioning that in the show. Also, back to BillsFan-4-ever's post about Robs wife. IIRC, she, and the Uncle and his Frey wife were being escorted back to Casterly Rock as prisoners, right? THE UNCLE ESCAPED oops to where I don't remember. the wife and baby remained in Riverrun as far as I recall. the littlefinger comes in to "save" Sansa after the drunk knight gets offed rescuing her.
Rubes Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Littlefinger is supposed to be off at the Vale wooing Catelyn's sister. But we know he's not really there, at least at the time of the wedding, since he's on a boat at King's Landing waiting for the fool to bring Sansa to him. There is nothing in the TV series that seems inconsistent with this. He'll probably show up in the next episode. The one interesting thing about Shae in the TV series is that, at the pre-wedding lunch, Tywin tells Cersei to "have her brought to the Tower of the Hand before the wedding". That makes me think he will somehow interfere with her leaving King's Landing, and bring the storyline back to where it should be in the books. If Tyrion thinks she's gone from King's Landing, and then sees her in Tywin's quarters during the prison escape, that would make for a powerful scene. Another interesting change from the books -- Sansa is given a necklace by the fool instead of a hair net, but it seems it still played a role in Joffrey's death. In the scene in the TV show where Lady Olenna walks up to Sansa at the wedding feast, they show her fondle Sansa's necklace, removing one of the jewels. You can see the necklace with the missing jewel multiple times after that. But they don't show how it gets into Joffrey's cup.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) - having Shae brought to the Tower of the Hand That betrayal may be what drives Tyrion to kill Tywin and Shae. Also the fool meets Sansa a few times in the garden. wasn't it but once in the TV show? or am I not remembering those meetings? I had forgotten about the jewel, only that olenna did the deed. Edited April 18, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever
Rubes Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 - having Shae brought to the Tower of the Hand That betrayal may be what drives Tyrion to kill Tywin and Shae. Yeah, I think that's probably the only way in the TV show they could justify that kind of response. But it would work! Also the fool meets Sansa a few times in the garden. wasn't it but once in the TV show? or am I not remembering those meetings? Yeah, I think they did it that way in the TV show just to speed things along. But in the books, he meets with her many times, probably as a way of earning her trust.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) - cant load image but its telling http://i.imgur.com/kDmPx2G.png I saw a gif where Tyrion glances at olenna as he takes the kings cup. Edited April 18, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever
Rubes Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 - cant load image but its telling http://i.imgur.com/kDmPx2G.png I saw a gif where Tyrion glances at olenna as he takes the kings cup. There's also a nice touch during the wedding itself. When the septon is marrying them, he says, "Cursed be he who attempts to tear them asunder." At that moment, the camera is showing this:
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 There's also a nice touch during the wedding itself. When the septon is marrying them, he says, "Cursed be he who attempts to tear them asunder." At that moment, the camera is showing this: Did he say that at Tyrion and Sansa's wedding too? Karma was waiting for the boy king
Rubes Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Did he say that at Tyrion and Sansa's wedding too? Karma was waiting for the boy king Hmm, good question. I'd have to go back and see. Probably not as much foreshadowing there, though.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Hmm, good question. I'd have to go back and see. Probably not as much foreshadowing there, though. that's true. I've been bugging my wife to read the books so I can say stuff as the show progresses. don't want to spoil anything.
Rubes Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 I saw a gif where Tyrion glances at olenna as he takes the kings cup. Here's a quickie I made. Tyrion definitely gives her a glance right as he's reaching for the cup. She's blinking like crazy.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Here's a quickie I made. Tyrion definitely gives her a glance right as he's reaching for the cup. She's blinking like crazy. that's what I saw earlier but the quality was so pisspoor I din't post it Edited April 18, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever
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